Hi! I enjoyed your reminiscences of wartime life in Pinner. On September 3rd, 1939, we were just unpacking our things having t(the previous day) moved into our "new" house at 21 Tudor Gardens, West Acton - not all that far from Pinner. We broke for a cup of tea and turned on the radio, only to hear Neville Chamberlain's broadcast annaouncing that we were at war with Germany. The previous year, my brother and I, as Scouts then living in Hornhurch, Essex, had assisted in the distribution and fitting of gasmasks to the local people. We also had an Anderson shelter, in our back garden at West Acton and, later, a Morrison shelter (the one under the dining room table. The sides were not solid steel sheet, but thick wire, welded in squares about 4 inches vertically and horizontally). One (long) side lifted up for access. My father's office was in Old Change, a narrow street off Cheapside, in the City, just round the corner from St. Paul's Cathedral. By the end of the war, that office building was an island in a sea of devastation. I could stand at the corner, looking across Cheapside and the bombed sites on the other side of the road, and had clear view of a few similar masonry islands stretching N.N.E. for nearly a mile. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Lewin BLAXALL" <Geoff-Blaxall@beeb.net> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] What iot was like for civvies > Dear Peter, > Your Mum was an "FEA" [Female Engineering Assistant] > As a lad I worked with many of 'em ! > Geoff > All e-mails protected by Mailwasher + Norton AV2005. > ============================================ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peter Monks > To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:24 PM > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] RAF AIRFIELDS IN SCOTLAND > > > Greetings, > > You wanted expeiences of war time happenings? > > When the war broke out we were living, I think, at 78 Tolcarne Drive, > Northwood Hills, Pinner Middlesex. I do not remember much of the war, > only that I was an 'expert' on enemy or friendly aircraft (whether right > or wrong I still don't know.) We had two air raid shelters (a Morison > and an Anderson), one was under the dining room table, it was a steel > cage--the idea being that if the house collapsed, the table would take > the brunt of the house fall and the steel cage would back it up. The > second was a 'standard' corrigated iron semi circular affair that was > half burried in the back garden and covered with soil. The one in the > garden was often full of stagnent water, frogs etc. that took up > residence. > > 1941 My mother, at second marriage to Bernard Russell, was an assistant > engineer G.P.O. (General Post Office) and was installing the top secret > 'scrambler' phones in places like Winston Churchill's office and the > Admiralty war office. (Bernard went to Egypt with the RAF Winston > Specials.) > > Mum said that she was 'bombed out' 3 times and 'blown up' in the street > 5 times, or greater numbers depending on the discussions and > occasion--traumatic at any time.Mostly the councilling was "Have a cuppa > tea, love, and you'll feel better." > > Peter > > > Delilah wrote: > > >Can you send a copy to the US - also since your wrote this, I would like > to > >hear more about how the people who lived thru WW2 lived, how bad was it > on > >them, etc. > >delilah > > > >From: "Peter Monks" <arethusa@shaw.ca> > >To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 12:34 PM > >Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] RAF AIRFIELDS IN SCOTLAND > > > > > >| Greetings, > >| > >| I was watching the war series attack on Monte Cassino yesterday, and > the > >| attack by each of the countries troops, and the Polish flag flying in > >| triumph. > >| > >| I am reminded of an ex POW or displaced person who used to ask for a > >| cheese roll at the canteen EVERY single day. Finally, he arrives and > >| asks for 'Ham Roll Please', the lass asks do you want mustard with > >| that?................Cheese Roll please. > >| > >| Ah, nostalgia! Ask a question, from many years back and get great > feed > >| back. Many thanks. I have an address: Col. G.M. Forteath, > Marcassie, > >| Forres, IV36 0RM (Being the owner of the ex farm in 1974) > >| > >| The information that you supplied is wonderful. I remember Forres as > a > >| small sleepy villiage where we got our accumulators charged that ran > the > >| radio. Where we took our cat whose leg was nearly severed by a > >| trap......the vet returning the cat now on three legs said that it > would > >| never catch mice again. It never had before......... but did after > >| becoming a parent!! I think that this apparition on three legs > puzzled > >| the mice until it was to late. > >| > >| Now on a nostalgia mode, we had an Italian POW camp near the farm, I > >| recall the POW's coming to work on the farm, no guards as I recall, > they > >| seemed happy to be out of the war, it could not be far as they marched > >| each day I think. Do you have any knowledge of the POW camp? Now > >| another incident if I may bother you, memories of their swapping us > >| fresh bananas (??????) for the banana powder that we were 'issued'. > >| Seems that they were making ice cream and using the banana powder as a > >| taste treat. ICE CREAM for the POW's??? Did the civilian population > >| have such treats? Amazing how one query leads to more and more! > >| > >| May I send you a copy of my self published book "The Flying P Ships" > >| being a history of the sailing era of the Laeisz Shipping Company of > >| Hamburg, as a thanks for your excellent help? If you care to share > your > >| address, I have no commercial connections! Peter > >| > >| > >| James Flemington wrote: > >| > >| >May I add a bit more? > >| > > >| >Logie would have been a very easy bike ride, about three miles, from > >Forres > >| >airfield which had no perimeter fence and therefore children could > get > >| >access to aircraft being serviced. Although the airfield remained Ir > >| >ministry property for a long time after the war its use as an > airfield > >fell > >| >off in 1944, presumably as training needs changed. The huts used by > the > >RAF > >| >ground crew were handed over to the army and were used to accommodate > >Poles > >| >who had been conscripted into the German army and were captured in > France > >by > >| >the British army. Here they were screened and then drafted into the > Free > >| >Polish army which served with great distinction in France and Italy; > we > >| >remember their gallantry and sacrifice at Monte Cassino. > >| > > >| > > >| >Jim > >| > > >| > > >| >-----Original Message----- > >| >From: Forrest Anderson [mailto:listmail@military-researcher.com] > >| >Sent: 02 April 2006 19:04 > >| >To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com > >| >Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] RAF AIRFIELDS IN SCOTLAND > >| > > >| >On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 11:52:30 -0500, Peter Monks <arethusa@shaw.ca> > >| >wrote: > >| > > >| > > >| > > >| >>We lived on a > >| >>farm property with buildings adjacent to the main farm house/farm > sheds, > >| >>this would have been around 1943 to 1945/6... > >| >> > >| >> > >| > > >| > > >| > > >| >>Around 1974 I... found the actual farm.... Now I cannot remember > >| >>the name and address, but it might have been near Dava at the > junction > >| >>of A939 or was it B9007 and near Logie and A940?? > >| >> > >| >> > >| > > >| > > >| > > >| >>In my fathers service records he is > >| >>listed as > >| >>605 Sqdn 13/9/42 > >| >>11 S. of TT 3 Feb 43 > >| >>19 OTU 8/4/43 > >| >>56 Base 4/11/44 > >| >>19 OTU 26/4/45 > >| >>6 (c) OTU 18/7/45 > >| >>102 PDC Released 27/11/45 > >| >> > >| >> > >| > > >| > > >| > > >| >>As a child I recall being taken to see the aircraft... The aircraft > was > >an > >| >>Anson I believe. Though I have dim memories of Lancasters, but > where > >| >>and when.....?? > >| >> > >| >> > >| > > >| >Having his Service Record is a major help! No 19 Operational Training > >| >Unit, which was formed to train night bomber crews, was based at > >| >Kinloss from the unit's formation in May 1940 to its disbandment on > 26 > >| >Jun 1945. 19 OTU also used the airfield at Forres as a satellite from > >| >1940 or 1941 up to 22 Oct 1944. During its existence, 19 OTU was > >| >equipped with quite a large variety of aircraft, including Ansons. > >| > > >| >After the departure of 19 OTU, 6 (Coastal) Operational Training Unit > >| >moved to Kinloss on 18 July 1945, and was equipped with Beaufighters > >| >and Mosquitos. > >| > > >| >Given that the airfield at Forres was less than 5 miles from the > >| >junction at Logie, it rather looks as though he was based at Forres > >| >and Kinloss airfields. > >| > > >| >Forrest > >| > > >| > > >| > > >| > >| > >| ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > >| Please do not send virus warnings to the list. 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Jessie, One other thing, you need to know that the military used a convoy coding system during WWII with letter and number designations, which were determined by ports of origin and destination. This site may also help you, you can search by date of sailing or arrival. If you can find the convoy code designation you may be able to find the name of all ships in convoy and begin to eliminate names until you get your match. Try cross referencing your ships with the troopship.pier90 site too. _http://www.convoyweb.org.uk/_ (http://www.convoyweb.org.uk/) Rick

Jessie, Refer to NARA group 336.3.1, which is the " Records of the Ports of Embarkation ". You will see in the listing that the records of the POE, Boston, MA 1941-1946 and any others for that matter. This will definitely be your best source of information regarding specific unit shipments>military records at the National Archives. Check with them about obtaining copies of the textual records or consider hiring a local researcher near the center to make copies of shipment records for that month and year, for you for a fee. _http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/336.html#336.3.1_ (http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/336.html#336.3.1) Rick

Try : http://www.ils.unc.edu/maritime/ships.shtml Regards, Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <JbarL@aol.com> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:18 PM > Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Troop ship > > > | Is there any way to find the name of an English ship which transported > | American service men from Boston Port of Embarkation to Liverpool in > November of > | 1944 arriving there Nov 17, 1944. > | > | I know that the American ship Wakefield sailed about the same time but I > | have heard that there was an English ship which left Boston P of E > carrying > | American troops. > | > | Thanks > | > | Jessie, Calif > | > | > | >

http://www.lib.byu.edu/~rdh/wwi/memoir.html

Thanks for the sites . Will try them all Jessie

http://uncommonjourneys.com/pages/mauretania/mauretania.htm http://www.ocean-liners.com/ships/mauretania.asp http://www.greatships.net/mauretania2.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "mptalbot" <mptalbot@comcast.net> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Troop ship | Jessie: | This is a shot in the dark, but you can try to locate the movements of the | RMS Mauretania 2 which was another of the Cunard liners outfitted for | troop-carrying during WW11. | I had a brother who was one of the crewmembers and I remember visiting him | in Liverpool about that time in 1944, while the Mauretania was in dock; I | was able to go dockside because I was in service uniform. I wish I could | remember the date, sorry, but she definitely was on the US-UK run in 1944 at | least - strange that she is not mentioned in any ships' lists that I have | seen on the internet. Somewhere she must be. | Regards, | Margaret | MPTalbot@comcast.net | ----- Original Message ----- | From: <JbarL@aol.com> | To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:18 PM | Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Troop ship | | | > Is there any way to find the name of an English ship which transported | > American service men from Boston Port of Embarkation to Liverpool in | November of | > 1944 arriving there Nov 17, 1944. | > | > I know that the American ship Wakefield sailed about the same time but I | > have heard that there was an English ship which left Boston P of E | carrying | > American troops. | > | > Thanks | > | > Jessie, Calif | > | > | > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | > To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: | WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com We are an international list. Please remember to | tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now | if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us | understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov | 4, 1944. | > | > ============================== | > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors | at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: | http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 | > | > | | | | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. | | ============================== | Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the | last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx |

Greetings, Many thanks, every fragment of information help to clarify and enrich our family history. In appreciation, Peter Geoff Lewin BLAXALL wrote: >Dear Peter, >Your Mum was an "FEA" [Female Engineering Assistant] >As a lad I worked with many of 'em ! >Geoff >All e-mails protected by Mailwasher + Norton AV2005. >============================================ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peter Monks > To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:24 PM > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] RAF AIRFIELDS IN SCOTLAND > > > Greetings, > > You wanted expeiences of war time happenings? > > When the war broke out we were living, I think, at 78 Tolcarne Drive, > Northwood Hills, Pinner Middlesex. I do not remember much of the war, > only that I was an 'expert' on enemy or friendly aircraft (whether right > or wrong I still don't know.) We had two air raid shelters (a Morison > and an Anderson), one was under the dining room table, it was a steel > cage--the idea being that if the house collapsed, the table would take > the brunt of the house fall and the steel cage would back it up. The > second was a 'standard' corrigated iron semi circular affair that was > half burried in the back garden and covered with soil. The one in the > garden was often full of stagnent water, frogs etc. that took up > residence. > > 1941 My mother, at second marriage to Bernard Russell, was an assistant > engineer G.P.O. (General Post Office) and was installing the top secret > 'scrambler' phones in places like Winston Churchill's office and the > Admiralty war office. (Bernard went to Egypt with the RAF Winston > Specials.) > > Mum said that she was 'bombed out' 3 times and 'blown up' in the street > 5 times, or greater numbers depending on the discussions and > occasion--traumatic at any time.Mostly the councilling was "Have a cuppa > tea, love, and you'll feel better." > > Peter > > > Delilah wrote: > > >Can you send a copy to the US - also since your wrote this, I would like to > >hear more about how the people who lived thru WW2 lived, how bad was it on > >them, etc. > >delilah > > > >From: "Peter Monks" <arethusa@shaw.ca> > >To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 12:34 PM > >Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] RAF AIRFIELDS IN SCOTLAND > > > > > >| Greetings, > >| > >| I was watching the war series attack on Monte Cassino yesterday, and the > >| attack by each of the countries troops, and the Polish flag flying in > >| triumph. > >| > >| I am reminded of an ex POW or displaced person who used to ask for a > >| cheese roll at the canteen EVERY single day. Finally, he arrives and > >| asks for 'Ham Roll Please', the lass asks do you want mustard with > >| that?................Cheese Roll please. > >| > >| Ah, nostalgia! Ask a question, from many years back and get great feed > >| back. Many thanks. I have an address: Col. G.M. Forteath, Marcassie, > >| Forres, IV36 0RM (Being the owner of the ex farm in 1974) > >| > >| The information that you supplied is wonderful. I remember Forres as a > >| small sleepy villiage where we got our accumulators charged that ran the > >| radio. Where we took our cat whose leg was nearly severed by a > >| trap......the vet returning the cat now on three legs said that it would > >| never catch mice again. It never had before......... but did after > >| becoming a parent!! I think that this apparition on three legs puzzled > >| the mice until it was to late. > >| > >| Now on a nostalgia mode, we had an Italian POW camp near the farm, I > >| recall the POW's coming to work on the farm, no guards as I recall, they > >| seemed happy to be out of the war, it could not be far as they marched > >| each day I think. Do you have any knowledge of the POW camp? Now > >| another incident if I may bother you, memories of their swapping us > >| fresh bananas (??????) for the banana powder that we were 'issued'. > >| Seems that they were making ice cream and using the banana powder as a > >| taste treat. ICE CREAM for the POW's??? Did the civilian population > >| have such treats? Amazing how one query leads to more and more! > >| > >| May I send you a copy of my self published book "The Flying P Ships" > >| being a history of the sailing era of the Laeisz Shipping Company of > >| Hamburg, as a thanks for your excellent help? If you care to share your > >| address, I have no commercial connections! Peter > >| > >| > >| James Flemington wrote: > >| > >| >May I add a bit more? > >| > > >| >Logie would have been a very easy bike ride, about three miles, from > >Forres > >| >airfield which had no perimeter fence and therefore children could get > >| >access to aircraft being serviced. Although the airfield remained Ir > >| >ministry property for a long time after the war its use as an airfield > >fell > >| >off in 1944, presumably as training needs changed. The huts used by the > >RAF > >| >ground crew were handed over to the army and were used to accommodate > >Poles > >| >who had been conscripted into the German army and were captured in France > >by > >| >the British army. Here they were screened and then drafted into the Free > >| >Polish army which served with great distinction in France and Italy; we > >| >remember their gallantry and sacrifice at Monte Cassino. > >| > > >| > > >| >Jim > >| > > >| > > >| >-----Original Message----- > >| >From: Forrest Anderson [mailto:listmail@military-researcher.com] > >| >Sent: 02 April 2006 19:04 > >| >To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com > >| >Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] RAF AIRFIELDS IN SCOTLAND > >| > > >| >On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 11:52:30 -0500, Peter Monks <arethusa@shaw.ca> > >| >wrote: > >| > > >| > > >| > > >| >>We lived on a > >| >>farm property with buildings adjacent to the main farm house/farm sheds, > >| >>this would have been around 1943 to 1945/6... > >| >> > >| >> > >| > > >| > > >| > > >| >>Around 1974 I... found the actual farm.... Now I cannot remember > >| >>the name and address, but it might have been near Dava at the junction > >| >>of A939 or was it B9007 and near Logie and A940?? > >| >> > >| >> > >| > > >| > > >| > > >| >>In my fathers service records he is > >| >>listed as > >| >>605 Sqdn 13/9/42 > >| >>11 S. of TT 3 Feb 43 > >| >>19 OTU 8/4/43 > >| >>56 Base 4/11/44 > >| >>19 OTU 26/4/45 > >| >>6 (c) OTU 18/7/45 > >| >>102 PDC Released 27/11/45 > >| >> > >| >> > >| > > >| > > >| > > >| >>As a child I recall being taken to see the aircraft... The aircraft was > >an > >| >>Anson I believe. Though I have dim memories of Lancasters, but where > >| >>and when.....?? > >| >> > >| >> > >| > > >| >Having his Service Record is a major help! No 19 Operational Training > >| >Unit, which was formed to train night bomber crews, was based at > >| >Kinloss from the unit's formation in May 1940 to its disbandment on 26 > >| >Jun 1945. 19 OTU also used the airfield at Forres as a satellite from > >| >1940 or 1941 up to 22 Oct 1944. During its existence, 19 OTU was > >| >equipped with quite a large variety of aircraft, including Ansons. > >| > > >| >After the departure of 19 OTU, 6 (Coastal) Operational Training Unit > >| >moved to Kinloss on 18 July 1945, and was equipped with Beaufighters > >| >and Mosquitos. > >| > > >| >Given that the airfield at Forres was less than 5 miles from the > >| >junction at Logie, it rather looks as though he was based at Forres > >| >and Kinloss airfields. > >| > > >| >Forrest > >| > > >| > > >| > > >| > >| > >| ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > >| Please do not send virus warnings to the list. 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Jessie: This is a shot in the dark, but you can try to locate the movements of the RMS Mauretania 2 which was another of the Cunard liners outfitted for troop-carrying during WW11. I had a brother who was one of the crewmembers and I remember visiting him in Liverpool about that time in 1944, while the Mauretania was in dock; I was able to go dockside because I was in service uniform. I wish I could remember the date, sorry, but she definitely was on the US-UK run in 1944 at least - strange that she is not mentioned in any ships' lists that I have seen on the internet. Somewhere she must be. Regards, Margaret MPTalbot@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <JbarL@aol.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:18 PM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Troop ship > Is there any way to find the name of an English ship which transported > American service men from Boston Port of Embarkation to Liverpool in November of > 1944 arriving there Nov 17, 1944. > > I know that the American ship Wakefield sailed about the same time but I > have heard that there was an English ship which left Boston P of E carrying > American troops. > > Thanks > > Jessie, Calif > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Here are Troop ships for 1944, July to December; (the Queen Mary listed as sailing from New York to Gourock, Scotland on 3 November): http://troopships.pier90.org/crossings/1944b.htm Yours, John Wilson > |I know about the Wakefield as it is the only one I can find which matches > | the dates that my husband gave. I assumed it must have carried the 1261st > | Engineer Combat Battalion as well as the others mentioned but If the > Queen Mary > | sailed at about the same time I could have been mistaken. Now I need the > | sailing dates for the Queen Mary in November of 44. > |

Dear Peter, Your Mum was an "FEA" [Female Engineering Assistant] As a lad I worked with many of 'em ! Geoff All e-mails protected by Mailwasher + Norton AV2005. ============================================ ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Monks To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] RAF AIRFIELDS IN SCOTLAND Greetings, You wanted expeiences of war time happenings? When the war broke out we were living, I think, at 78 Tolcarne Drive, Northwood Hills, Pinner Middlesex. I do not remember much of the war, only that I was an 'expert' on enemy or friendly aircraft (whether right or wrong I still don't know.) We had two air raid shelters (a Morison and an Anderson), one was under the dining room table, it was a steel cage--the idea being that if the house collapsed, the table would take the brunt of the house fall and the steel cage would back it up. The second was a 'standard' corrigated iron semi circular affair that was half burried in the back garden and covered with soil. The one in the garden was often full of stagnent water, frogs etc. that took up residence. 1941 My mother, at second marriage to Bernard Russell, was an assistant engineer G.P.O. (General Post Office) and was installing the top secret 'scrambler' phones in places like Winston Churchill's office and the Admiralty war office. (Bernard went to Egypt with the RAF Winston Specials.) Mum said that she was 'bombed out' 3 times and 'blown up' in the street 5 times, or greater numbers depending on the discussions and occasion--traumatic at any time.Mostly the councilling was "Have a cuppa tea, love, and you'll feel better." Peter Delilah wrote: >Can you send a copy to the US - also since your wrote this, I would like to >hear more about how the people who lived thru WW2 lived, how bad was it on >them, etc. >delilah > >From: "Peter Monks" <arethusa@shaw.ca> >To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 12:34 PM >Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] RAF AIRFIELDS IN SCOTLAND > > >| Greetings, >| >| I was watching the war series attack on Monte Cassino yesterday, and the >| attack by each of the countries troops, and the Polish flag flying in >| triumph. >| >| I am reminded of an ex POW or displaced person who used to ask for a >| cheese roll at the canteen EVERY single day. Finally, he arrives and >| asks for 'Ham Roll Please', the lass asks do you want mustard with >| that?................Cheese Roll please. >| >| Ah, nostalgia! Ask a question, from many years back and get great feed >| back. Many thanks. I have an address: Col. G.M. Forteath, Marcassie, >| Forres, IV36 0RM (Being the owner of the ex farm in 1974) >| >| The information that you supplied is wonderful. I remember Forres as a >| small sleepy villiage where we got our accumulators charged that ran the >| radio. Where we took our cat whose leg was nearly severed by a >| trap......the vet returning the cat now on three legs said that it would >| never catch mice again. It never had before......... but did after >| becoming a parent!! I think that this apparition on three legs puzzled >| the mice until it was to late. >| >| Now on a nostalgia mode, we had an Italian POW camp near the farm, I >| recall the POW's coming to work on the farm, no guards as I recall, they >| seemed happy to be out of the war, it could not be far as they marched >| each day I think. Do you have any knowledge of the POW camp? Now >| another incident if I may bother you, memories of their swapping us >| fresh bananas (??????) for the banana powder that we were 'issued'. >| Seems that they were making ice cream and using the banana powder as a >| taste treat. ICE CREAM for the POW's??? Did the civilian population >| have such treats? Amazing how one query leads to more and more! >| >| May I send you a copy of my self published book "The Flying P Ships" >| being a history of the sailing era of the Laeisz Shipping Company of >| Hamburg, as a thanks for your excellent help? If you care to share your >| address, I have no commercial connections! Peter >| >| >| James Flemington wrote: >| >| >May I add a bit more? >| > >| >Logie would have been a very easy bike ride, about three miles, from >Forres >| >airfield which had no perimeter fence and therefore children could get >| >access to aircraft being serviced. Although the airfield remained Ir >| >ministry property for a long time after the war its use as an airfield >fell >| >off in 1944, presumably as training needs changed. The huts used by the >RAF >| >ground crew were handed over to the army and were used to accommodate >Poles >| >who had been conscripted into the German army and were captured in France >by >| >the British army. Here they were screened and then drafted into the Free >| >Polish army which served with great distinction in France and Italy; we >| >remember their gallantry and sacrifice at Monte Cassino. >| > >| > >| >Jim >| > >| > >| >-----Original Message----- >| >From: Forrest Anderson [mailto:listmail@military-researcher.com] >| >Sent: 02 April 2006 19:04 >| >To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com >| >Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] RAF AIRFIELDS IN SCOTLAND >| > >| >On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 11:52:30 -0500, Peter Monks <arethusa@shaw.ca> >| >wrote: >| > >| > >| > >| >>We lived on a >| >>farm property with buildings adjacent to the main farm house/farm sheds, >| >>this would have been around 1943 to 1945/6... >| >> >| >> >| > >| > >| > >| >>Around 1974 I... found the actual farm.... Now I cannot remember >| >>the name and address, but it might have been near Dava at the junction >| >>of A939 or was it B9007 and near Logie and A940?? >| >> >| >> >| > >| > >| > >| >>In my fathers service records he is >| >>listed as >| >>605 Sqdn 13/9/42 >| >>11 S. of TT 3 Feb 43 >| >>19 OTU 8/4/43 >| >>56 Base 4/11/44 >| >>19 OTU 26/4/45 >| >>6 (c) OTU 18/7/45 >| >>102 PDC Released 27/11/45 >| >> >| >> >| > >| > >| > >| >>As a child I recall being taken to see the aircraft... The aircraft was >an >| >>Anson I believe. Though I have dim memories of Lancasters, but where >| >>and when.....?? >| >> >| >> >| > >| >Having his Service Record is a major help! No 19 Operational Training >| >Unit, which was formed to train night bomber crews, was based at >| >Kinloss from the unit's formation in May 1940 to its disbandment on 26 >| >Jun 1945. 19 OTU also used the airfield at Forres as a satellite from >| >1940 or 1941 up to 22 Oct 1944. During its existence, 19 OTU was >| >equipped with quite a large variety of aircraft, including Ansons. >| > >| >After the departure of 19 OTU, 6 (Coastal) Operational Training Unit >| >moved to Kinloss on 18 July 1945, and was equipped with Beaufighters >| >and Mosquitos. >| > >| >Given that the airfield at Forres was less than 5 miles from the >| >junction at Logie, it rather looks as though he was based at Forres >| >and Kinloss airfields. >| > >| >Forrest >| > >| > >| > >| >| >| ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== >| Please do not send virus warnings to the list. If you have concerns about >a virus, contact your list admin or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com >subscribe in the subject line. We are an international list. Please >remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you >are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please >help us understand the date you are referring to. 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Hello Anne Have you any connection with the Lincolnshire PICKETTs? At 09:49 03/04/2006 +1200, you wrote: >Can anyone tell me what WWII facilities were at Glencoe? > >Thanks. > > >-- >Anne Picketts >14 Cove Road >WAIPU 0254 >Northland >Phone/fax: 09 432-0045; Mobile: 021 252 6259 >Waipu Heritage Museum FHS Dept: <anne@waipumuseum.com> > > > >==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== >We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > Regards George Home page: http://web.localdial.com/users/airforce Leicestershire & Rutland Web Site: http://www.lrfhs.org.com About Jersey Site: http://www.jerseyinsight.com

http://www.cruisecritic.com/reviews/cruiseline.cfm?CruiseLineID=13 Try this ----- Original Message ----- From: <JbarL@aol.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Troop ship |I know about the Wakefield as it is the only one I can find which matches | the dates that my husband gave. I assumed it must have carried the 1261st | Engineer Combat Battalion as well as the others mentioned but If the Queen Mary | sailed at about the same time I could have been mistaken. Now I need the | sailing dates for the Queen Mary in November of 44. | | If anyone was in the 1261st Engineer Combat Battalion and remembers the name | of the ship , I would appreciate hearing from them. | | Jessie, Calif | | | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. | | ============================== | Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for | ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: | http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx |

From: <JbarL@aol.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Troop ship |I know about the Wakefield as it is the only one I can find which matches | the dates that my husband gave. I assumed it must have carried the 1261st | Engineer Combat Battalion as well as the others mentioned but If the Queen Mary | sailed at about the same time I could have been mistaken. Now I need the | sailing dates for the Queen Mary in November of 44. | | If anyone was in the 1261st Engineer Combat Battalion and remembers the name | of the ship , I would appreciate hearing from them. | | Jessie, Calif | | | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. | | ============================== | Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for | ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: | http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx |

Hi to all... Just posting in general reference. My dad served in the Navy in World War II in the South Pacific. His name was Ellis Wayne Diggs...his nickname was Sammy! He served in several different locations. I have out the information on our family website if some are interested. Perhaps my dad served with your dad, uncle, brother or other family members. I have listed all the places and dates he served. I do not have all the information I would like to know...but my search continues. Seems he was a small boat operator and transported soldiers to the beaches when they were fighting the war. I know for a fact that he traveled on a troopship named the "Day Star" across the equator May of 1944. Hopefully someone may recognize the name or knows of somebody that served with my dad. Here is the web page you can link to and get some of my dad's history. When you get to the bottom of the scroll you will see another link that has pictures and documents. I have located pictures of the troopship "Day Star". You can view them on my sight also. _ELLIS W. DIGGS (SAMMY)_ (http://www.diggsjourney.com/sammie_ellis_wayne_diggs_sr.htm) _http://www.diggsjourney.com/sammie_ellis_wayne_diggs_sr.htm_ (http://www.diggsjourney.com/sammie_ellis_wayne_diggs_sr.htm) Thanks to all... David Diggs

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http://www.traversecityrecord-eagle.com/2001/may/28memori.htm Some of the mebers are here ----- Original Message ----- From: <JbarL@aol.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Troop ship |I know about the Wakefield as it is the only one I can find which matches | the dates that my husband gave. I assumed it must have carried the 1261st | Engineer Combat Battalion as well as the others mentioned but If the Queen Mary | sailed at about the same time I could have been mistaken. Now I need the | sailing dates for the Queen Mary in November of 44. | | If anyone was in the 1261st Engineer Combat Battalion and remembers the name | of the ship , I would appreciate hearing from them. | | Jessie, Calif | | | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. | | ============================== | Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for | ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: | http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx |

My husband sailed to Scotland from NY...they left from Camp Kilmer NJ in July 1944 for overseas ----- Original Message ----- From: <JbarL@aol.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Troop ship > Did the Queen Mary sail from Boston P of E in November 1944? > > Jessie, Calif > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. > Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what > country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/300 - Release Date: 4/3/2006 > >

I live in Lakeland, Florida, this week the local airfield is holding what they call The Sun N Fun Fly In. I live in the fields flight path. For the last half hour I have been watching about a fifty or sixty World War II era aircraft flying in 2 formations, 4 by 4. They all look similar but I am not an expert on aircraft so can not tell what they are. Those in one formation seem bigger than those in the other. I have gotten all the neighborhood dogs upset from my screaming, yelling and jumping up and down. lol Sherry

I know about the Wakefield as it is the only one I can find which matches the dates that my husband gave. I assumed it must have carried the 1261st Engineer Combat Battalion as well as the others mentioned but If the Queen Mary sailed at about the same time I could have been mistaken. Now I need the sailing dates for the Queen Mary in November of 44. If anyone was in the 1261st Engineer Combat Battalion and remembers the name of the ship , I would appreciate hearing from them. Jessie, Calif