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    1. Re: [WORLD WAR II] British Fall back position during WWII ?
    2. Roger & Jodie Morris
    3. Many thanks, Roger. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dudley Clist" <dudley.clist@btinternet.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] British Fall back position during WWII ? > Hi Roger > There is a lot of information on > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/archon/searches/locresult_details.asp?LR=14 > you will need to sift through, also an email address. > > Janice > Wales > UK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger & Jodie Morris" <rog.jod@bigpond.net.au> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:55 AM > Subject: [WORLD WAR II] British Fall back position during WWII ? > > >> I'm interested in finding out whether English history reveals what >> Churchill's 'Fall Back' position was if the Nazis had ever landed ground >> troops on British soil? >> >> In Australia during the darkest points of the War in 1942/43, the >> Australian Government drew a line through Brisbane in SE Queensland, >> known logically as the 'Brisbane Line' north of which would be evacuated >> and left to the Japanese had they ever made landfall in northern >> Australia. >> >> I assume the British Government had a similar plan when the Nazis held >> most of Europe across the Channel. >> >> Would Brits have been evacuated north into Scotland or west into Wales >> (ironically like most other defeated races throughout English history)? >> >> Roger >> Queensland, Australia. >> >> >> >> ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html >> This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, >> subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. >> Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what >> country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give >> dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For >> example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. > Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what > country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

    05/01/2006 02:22:56
    1. Re: [WORLD WAR II] British Fall back position during WWII ?
    2. Paul Hinkle
    3. TO All who may read this click here http://www.presentationhelper.co.uk/winston_churchill_speech_fight_them_on_beaches.htm Paul Hinkle US WW2 vet ---- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Monks" To: Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] British Fall back position during WWII ? > Greetings, > > Thank goodness it never happened, but pill boxes galore appeared, as did > underground emergency attack shelters, ammunition was disposed of and > explosives and hidden in gardens and churches, obviously no records were > kept or the whole exercise would have been in vain. I recall reading of > one gentleman in or approaching his nineties who sheepishly informed his > local police station that he had a largish ammunition dump in his back > garden, and wondered if he was allowed to 'tell yet'. Similarly I read of > Winston Churchill brandishing a carving knife over Sunday dinner and > announcing that 'everyone present must take at least one with them.' Or > the 'still secret' supposedly oil fires off the beaches for the > destruction of the invasion barges?? Peter > > Roger & Jodie Morris wrote: > >>I'm interested in finding out whether English history reveals what >>Churchill's 'Fall Back' position was if the Nazis had ever landed ground >>troops on British soil? >> >>In Australia during the darkest points of the War in 1942/43, the >>Australian Government drew a line through Brisbane in SE Queensland, known >>logically as the 'Brisbane Line' north of which would be evacuated and >>left to the Japanese had they ever made landfall in northern Australia. >> >>I assume the British Government had a similar plan when the Nazis held >>most of Europe across the Channel. >>Would Brits have been evacuated north into Scotland or west into Wales >>(ironically like most other defeated races throughout English history)? >> >>Roger >>Queensland, Australia. >> >> >> >>==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== >>http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html >>This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, >>subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. >>Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what >>country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give >>dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For >>example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an > international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor > was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help > you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are > referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Yahoo is my non-personal mail. For personal mail only use <pdhinkle@radiotower.net> --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1&cent;/min.

    04/30/2006 11:28:35
    1. Re: [WORLD WAR II] British Fall back position during WWII ?
    2. Peter Monks
    3. Greetings, Thank goodness it never happened, but pill boxes galore appeared, as did underground emergency attack shelters, ammunition was disposed of and explosives and hidden in gardens and churches, obviously no records were kept or the whole exercise would have been in vain. I recall reading of one gentleman in or approaching his nineties who sheepishly informed his local police station that he had a largish ammunition dump in his back garden, and wondered if he was allowed to 'tell yet'. Similarly I read of Winston Churchill brandishing a carving knife over Sunday dinner and announcing that 'everyone present must take at least one with them.' Or the 'still secret' supposedly oil fires off the beaches for the destruction of the invasion barges?? Peter Roger & Jodie Morris wrote: >I'm interested in finding out whether English history reveals what Churchill's 'Fall Back' position was if the Nazis had ever landed ground troops on British soil? > >In Australia during the darkest points of the War in 1942/43, the Australian Government drew a line through Brisbane in SE Queensland, known logically as the 'Brisbane Line' north of which would be evacuated and left to the Japanese had they ever made landfall in northern Australia. > >I assume the British Government had a similar plan when the Nazis held most of Europe across the Channel. > >Would Brits have been evacuated north into Scotland or west into Wales (ironically like most other defeated races throughout English history)? > >Roger >Queensland, Australia. > > > >==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html >This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > >

    04/30/2006 05:56:17
    1. British Fall back position during WWII ?
    2. Roger & Jodie Morris
    3. I'm interested in finding out whether English history reveals what Churchill's 'Fall Back' position was if the Nazis had ever landed ground troops on British soil? In Australia during the darkest points of the War in 1942/43, the Australian Government drew a line through Brisbane in SE Queensland, known logically as the 'Brisbane Line' north of which would be evacuated and left to the Japanese had they ever made landfall in northern Australia. I assume the British Government had a similar plan when the Nazis held most of Europe across the Channel. Would Brits have been evacuated north into Scotland or west into Wales (ironically like most other defeated races throughout English history)? Roger Queensland, Australia.

    04/30/2006 02:55:25
    1. Re: [WORLD WAR II] British Fall back position during WWII ?
    2. Forrest Anderson
    3. On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:55:25 +1000, "Roger & Jodie Morris" <rog.jod@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >I'm interested in finding out whether English history reveals what Churchill's 'Fall Back' position was if the Nazis had ever landed ground troops on British soil? > >In Australia during the darkest points of the War in 1942/43, the Australian Government drew a line through Brisbane in SE Queensland, known logically as the 'Brisbane Line' north of which would be evacuated and left to the Japanese had they ever made landfall in northern Australia. > >I assume the British Government had a similar plan when the Nazis held most of Europe across the Channel. In the summer of 1940, after the fall of France and when the invasion threat was most serious, General Edmund Ironside, who was Commander-in-Chief of the Home Forces, designed a fortified line which ran roughly parallel to the east and south coasts. It was called the General Headquarters Anti-Tank Line, or more simply the GHQ Line or Ironside's Line. It ran roughly from Bristol to Maidstone, and then to Cambridge, York and Edinburgh. Within a few months, nearly 250,000 tons of concrete had been poured and 100 miles of anti-tank ditches had been dug by civilians and soldiers just back from France. Nearly all the country's earth-moving machinery was utilised in the huge task. There were also plans to move the Government to a position near Worcester, 60 miles behind the line. The idea was short-lived, and was declared obsolete in Aug 1940 and abandoned in early 1941. However over 1000 pillboxes still survived in 1998, and details of the position of most surviving defensive works and of the line itself are in Colin Alexander's "Ironside's Line: A Definitive Guide to the General Headquarters Line planned for Great Britain in response to the threat of German invasion 1940-1942", 152 pages, 1999, ISBN 1901313042. See also the Defence of Britain Project at http://www.britarch.ac.uk/projects/dob/index.html Forrest -- Forrest Anderson, Edinburgh, Scotland. E-mail: forrest@military-researcher.com Website: www.military-researcher.com Forrestdale Research - Military Genealogical Researcher

    04/30/2006 11:22:57
    1. Re: [WORLD WAR II] Company C 320th Engineers - Europe
    2. Rick: Thank you for answering my query. You've give me a very clear explanation of my friend's whereabouts during a particular timeframe. What you have explained fits in with the experiences that Pete described. I'll check the sites you have mentioned and see what I can come up with. I'll be sure to use the terms 320th Engineers or 320th Engineer Battalion. I've also been researching the entire 95th Division. Where would one find a "list of detachments?" Thanks for steering me in the right direction. I really appreciate how helpful everyone on this board has been to such a novice. Adrienne

    04/30/2006 09:50:28
    1. Re: [WORLD WAR II] British Fall back position during WWII ?
    2. Dudley Clist
    3. Hi Roger There is a lot of information on http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/archon/searches/locresult_details.asp?LR=14 you will need to sift through, also an email address. Janice Wales UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger & Jodie Morris" <rog.jod@bigpond.net.au> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:55 AM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] British Fall back position during WWII ? > I'm interested in finding out whether English history reveals what > Churchill's 'Fall Back' position was if the Nazis had ever landed ground > troops on British soil? > > In Australia during the darkest points of the War in 1942/43, the > Australian Government drew a line through Brisbane in SE Queensland, known > logically as the 'Brisbane Line' north of which would be evacuated and > left to the Japanese had they ever made landfall in northern Australia. > > I assume the British Government had a similar plan when the Nazis held > most of Europe across the Channel. > > Would Brits have been evacuated north into Scotland or west into Wales > (ironically like most other defeated races throughout English history)? > > Roger > Queensland, Australia. > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. > Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what > country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

    04/30/2006 08:10:08
    1. Re: [WORLD WAR II] Company C 320th Engineers - Europe
    2. Adrienne, The 320th Engineer Battalion (Combat) was an organic unit of the 95th Infantry Division. That is to say, that they were assigned to them. I checked the list of detachments (Temporary re-assignment) from the 95th Division, and the 320th ECB (Engineer Combat Battalion) was never detached temporarily. So any movement by them, was for the entire division as a whole.It was common for divisions to change assignments from corps to corps, or to and from different armies as tactical needs changed. It is important to remember that the U.S. had several armies in Europe. The 1st Army (Commanded by Gen. Courtney Hodges), the 3rd Army (Gen. Patton), 7th Army (Gen. Patch), 9th Army (Gen. Simpson), and later the 15th Army (Gen. Gerow and later Patton).The 95th division moved around quite a bit. From 7/7/44 to 10/9/44 they were in the 9th Army. 10/10/44 to 2/4/45 they were in the 3rd Army. 2/5/45 to 2/4/45 they were back in the 9th (With just a brief assignment in the British Ninth Army).The period of time that you mention (Crossing the Siegfried line) is late November, 1944 during which the 95th Division was assigned to the XXth Corps (Commanded by Gen. Walker), who answered to Patton.The XXth saw very heavy action at that time fighting for the Metz fortifications and later the crossing of the Saar River. Patton's shift to north is most likely a reference to his actions during the Battle of the Bulge. As Americans became surrounded at Bastogne, Patton turned some of his forces to the north to attack the southern part of the German salient and punch through to save the surrounded troops. Not all of his 3rd Army troops took part in the move to the north. Some were left behind to hold the front and ending up guarding a very large portion which was normally held by many more divisions,resulting in very thin lines.The 95th was one of those divisions that was expected to guard more than it's normal share of the front beginning on December 19th, 1944 in what has become known as the Pattons' Ghost Corps front. You will have better luck searching for the history of the 320th Engineers if you search variations of 320th ECB, 320th Combat Engineer, or research the history of the entire 95th Division and look for references to the 320th Engineers.(Not the same as the 320th Engineer Company, or 320th Infantry Regiment,you want the 320th Engineer Battalion). _http://www.lilliputmodel.com/articulos/rabanal/95division/95division_ing.htm_ (http://www.lilliputmodel.com/articulos/rabanal/95division/95division_ing.htm) Rick

    04/30/2006 06:47:41
    1. List of dead from Nesbitt Memorial Library
    2. Delilah
    3. http://www.columbustexas.net/library/history/world%20war%202%20dead.htm

    04/28/2006 08:24:33
    1. Mathematics & War
    2. Delilah
    3. This is an interesting article - "How math helped win World War 11" http://www.nsa.gov/cch/cch00006.cfm

    04/28/2006 06:16:18
    1. Troop Carriers Ulysses and Lio?
    2. Vivien & Charlie Clarke
    3. My father was transported from Melbourne, Australia to Liverpool on the troop carrier HMT Ulysses Aug-Oct 1940 and then to the Middle East (Egypt) on the HMT Lio (that is how it is described on his war service documents) in Dec 1940. I have found some references to the Ulysses but can not find any ship that fits with Lio. Does anyone know of a ship that may be the one referred to as HMT Lio (perhaps Lio is an abbreviation)? Thanks Charlie

    04/27/2006 02:11:32
    1. Re: [WORLD WAR II] my uncles
    2. Delilah
    3. are you saying all three of these people were in ww2 - what info you hunting ----- Original Message ----- From: <tblzrfan@comcast.net> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:52 PM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] my uncles |I have an unusual request--I have three uncles and one great-uncle that served in World War II. My great uncle served in the Third Army, 714th Battalion, Company C. I also know that he was with Patton when Patton went into Germany. He's from the Vancouver, Washington. His name was George E. Wright, and he died in 1997. | | For my other three uncles, I don't have even that much information. All I know about them is that they all served in the navy. My oldest uncle John Christopher was a pharmacist's first class. I don't know what my other two uncles did. Their names are David Christopher and Robert Christopher. I don't think Robert was in for a very long time--just towards the end of the war. | | Any information that anyone can provide, I would appreciate it. | | Bobbi Foster | | | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. | | ============================== | View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find | marriage announcements and more. Learn more: | http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx |

    04/26/2006 04:14:20
    1. my uncles
    2. I have an unusual request--I have three uncles and one great-uncle that served in World War II. My great uncle served in the Third Army, 714th Battalion, Company C. I also know that he was with Patton when Patton went into Germany. He's from the Vancouver, Washington. His name was George E. Wright, and he died in 1997. For my other three uncles, I don't have even that much information. All I know about them is that they all served in the navy. My oldest uncle John Christopher was a pharmacist's first class. I don't know what my other two uncles did. Their names are David Christopher and Robert Christopher. I don't think Robert was in for a very long time--just towards the end of the war. Any information that anyone can provide, I would appreciate it. Bobbi Foster

    04/25/2006 07:52:27
    1. Company C 320th Engineers - Europe
    2. Hi everyone: Today I had a fantastic piece of luck. I called the Aurora, Illinois library and the reference librarian found a picture of my friend, Peter Bianchetta. And next to it was written: Pvt. Company C 320th Engineers I've looked on several sites and found a bit of their history but nothing about reunions or a site for posting Pete's name. I realize that during the war companies, batallions and platoons moved around quite a bit and my chances of finding someone who remembers him may be slim but I'd like to give it a try. The librarian is also sending me a copy of his picture. Would anyone know if Company C would have been part of the group that Patton pulled from the Siegfreid Line and sent them south to cover a two divisional front? I was told that it was the old Third Army front? I've ordered the local newspaper from the Abraham Lincoln State Library in Illinois and am hoping that he will be mentioned somewhere in the war news. I noticed that several towns mentioned their local soldiers in clippings almost each day. Who knows, I might get lucky! Everyone on this list has been very helpful and patient as I find my way around. Just want to tell you thank you. Adrienne Inman

    04/25/2006 01:02:02
    1. Re: [WORLD WAR II] Research help
    2. Delilah
    3. -Here is his burial record - with this info you can try for more informationJohn E. Davis Technical Sergeant, U.S. Army Service # 14027804 318th Infantry Regiment, 80th Infantry Division Entered the Service from: Florida Died: 22-Nov-44 Buried at: Plot B Row 16 Grave 51 Lorraine American Cemetery St. Avold, France Awards: Purple Heart with Oak Leaf Cluster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Curtis" <jgcurtis@erols.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Research help | My Uncle, John E. Davis, was killed in France on Nov 22, 1944, and is buried at St. Avold, France. He was in the 318th Infantry Regiment, 80th Infantry Division. I would like to contact others who were in the same group and may have known him. I have pictures of him and 3 of his buddies that I would love to share. | | Finally, where or how can I get a detailed account of the 80th Division's locations and movements in France prior to and after my uncle's death. | | John was from Ocala, Florida, USA | | Thanks for any help. | Jerry Curtis | | | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. | | ============================== | Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the | areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. | Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx |

    04/24/2006 08:57:02
    1. Lists of Names
    2. Dear List Members: I've looked through quite a few World War 2 sites but nowhere do I find any lists of names of those who fought. In other words if my friend was part of the 1st Infantry and also a part of Hell on Wheels I was hoping to find a list of individual soldiers who served in various platoons. Does such a list exist? Would there be some type of lists somewhere giving the names of each member of a platoon. He was also attached to an armored division. He was an engineer. He told me that during the battle of the bulge he stayed on in the old Third Army front. Patton pulled them out of the line and sent them right back covering a two division front. Patton then sent everything else north to the Bulge. He told me that because of casualties his division was at half strength because they'd been leading the Third Army drive through the Siegfreid. He also took part in the assult on Metz. I was also told that he did his basic training with a "mish mash" engineering batallion. I can't use the word he called it. He said they trained 16-18 hours a day, and had night marches through swamps. I'm filling out a form requesting Military Records but don't have exact dates such as Date Entered and Date Released. I do know that after the war was over he spent an additional 6 months after the war in Berlin as part of the occupying forces and then sent home. Do you think that as far as the dates are concerned I can use 1942-1946? I have his Social Security Number. Will that help? I'd also like to thank those who contacted me after my first query with advice. I'm a novice at military research so I welcome all comments, suggestions, advice. I need all the help I can get. Thank you very much. Adrienne Inman

    04/24/2006 08:04:14
    1. Re: WORLDWAR2-D Digest V06 #124
    2. Hazel
    3. Interested in the 81st Infantry Division. Is there any records of those who were from the Blue Ridge Mountains? My brother was in service in the 81st during WW11 Thanks for any and all. Hazel ---------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: <WORLDWAR2-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: WORLDWAR2-D Digest V06 #124 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

    04/24/2006 07:22:54
    1. RE: [WORLD WAR II] Lists of Names
    2. Barbara Phillips
    3. I have been in touch with the US Government and had my Fathers medals restored to us. (They were lost in a fire) I was informed at the time ath there is a lot of information missing due to a fire in Washington D.C. The best thing for you to do is contact the branch of the service that your ancestor was in. When I contacted the Airforce, which was the Arm Aircorp during WWII, they gave me a list of address's for me to start writing to. I contacted the Airforce through the National Cemetary. The people who run the cemitariers are very knowedgable and take great pride in helping the family member get any information that they can. Hope this helps, Barbara Phillips > [Original Message] > From: <INZP@aol.com> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 4/24/2006 11:06:19 AM > Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Lists of Names > > Dear List Members: > > I've looked through quite a few World War 2 sites but nowhere do I find any > lists of names of those who fought. In other words if my friend was part of > the 1st Infantry and also a part of Hell on Wheels I was hoping to find a list > of individual soldiers who served in various platoons. Does such a list exist? > Would there be some type of lists somewhere giving the names of each member > of a platoon. He was also attached to an armored division. He was an > engineer. > > He told me that during the battle of the bulge he stayed on in the old Third > Army front. Patton pulled them out of the line and sent them right back > covering a two division front. Patton then sent everything else north to the > Bulge. He told me that because of casualties his division was at half strength > because they'd been leading the Third Army drive through the Siegfreid. He also > took part in the assult on Metz. > > I was also told that he did his basic training with a "mish mash" engineering > batallion. I can't use the word he called it. He said they trained 16-18 > hours a day, and had night marches through swamps. > > I'm filling out a form requesting Military Records but don't have exact dates > such as Date Entered and Date Released. I do know that after the war was > over he spent an additional 6 months after the war in Berlin as part of the > occupying forces and then sent home. Do you think that as far as the dates are > concerned I can use 1942-1946? I have his Social Security Number. Will that > help? > > I'd also like to thank those who contacted me after my first query with > advice. I'm a novice at military research so I welcome all comments, suggestions, > advice. I need all the help I can get. Thank you very much. > > Adrienne Inman > > > > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

    04/24/2006 05:25:26
    1. Re: [WORLD WAR II] Research help
    2. Paul Hinkle
    3. Jerry: I went to www.Google,com and entered 80th ID WW2 and found numerous websites with info on this unit including combat history ! Give it a try. Paul HInkle WW2 vet Jerry Curtis <jgcurtis@erols.com> wrote: My Uncle, John E. Davis, was killed in France on Nov 22, 1944, and is buried at St. Avold, France. He was in the 318th Infantry Regiment, 80th Infantry Division. I would like to contact others who were in the same group and may have known him. I have pictures of him and 3 of his buddies that I would love to share. Finally, where or how can I get a detailed account of the 80th Division's locations and movements in France prior to and after my uncle's death. John was from Ocala, Florida, USA Thanks for any help. Jerry Curtis ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Yahoo is my non-personal mail. For personal mail only use <pdhinkle@radiotower.net> --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1&cent;/min.

    04/23/2006 11:26:01
    1. Research help
    2. Jerry Curtis
    3. My Uncle, John E. Davis, was killed in France on Nov 22, 1944, and is buried at St. Avold, France. He was in the 318th Infantry Regiment, 80th Infantry Division. I would like to contact others who were in the same group and may have known him. I have pictures of him and 3 of his buddies that I would love to share. Finally, where or how can I get a detailed account of the 80th Division's locations and movements in France prior to and after my uncle's death. John was from Ocala, Florida, USA Thanks for any help. Jerry Curtis

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