Hi All Apologies for the last message something went wrong somewhere !!!! I want to get my Grandfathers service records but I don't have any of the details required. Can anyone suggest how I might obtain them? Thanks Dave

-----Original Message----- From: Peter Monks [mailto:arethusa@shaw.ca] Sent: 18 May 2006 17:11 To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Records request for UK WWII Greetings, Give it a try anyway. Peter Charlotte Tebbutt wrote: >I have a short (well relatively short) question about getting hold of UK air >force WWII records. > > > >Lets say the airman is now deceased and therefore only the next of kin can >apply for his war record. > > > >What if the applicant, his child, was the product of a bigamous second >marriage? The original (and therefore legal) marriage producing children >also. > > Hi All I want to get my Grandfathers service records but I don't have any of the details required. Can anyone suggest how I might obtain them? Thanks Dave

Is that supposed to be Aachen, it is located in west central Germany ----- Original Message ----- From: <Theholigrail@aol.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] 397TH AAA AW - US ARMY | | In a message dated 5/17/2006 6:24:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, | Snowfrog1961@aol.com writes: | | http://anyboard.net/gov/mil/omaha/posts/507.html | | | Rick, | Thanks for all the information. That link is me. I haven't heard from Otis | Fenter's family. | So I put it on the board again. What ever information I get I share with | other family members from the 397th AAA that are looking for information. Like | my dad, there are many who didn't say much and their family know nothing.My | dad was shot in both arms at A-92. He made a list of where he was but then | lists Acchen. I think this must be a mistake . Wasn't Acchen another place of | battle? His actual list reads: | A-78 | A-92 | Acchen | Wounded New Years Day 1945 by straffing Plane Me 109 | then 39th Evac. Hosp. All of his medical records say wounded at a-92. | Jo Ann | | | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. | | ============================== | Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the | areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. | Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx |

The worst they can say is no. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Monks" <arethusa@shaw.ca> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Records request for UK WWII > Greetings, > > Give it a try anyway. Peter > > Charlotte Tebbutt wrote: > >>I have a short (well relatively short) question about getting hold of UK >>air >>force WWII records. >> >>Lets say the airman is now deceased and therefore only the next of kin can >>apply for his war record. >> >> >>What if the applicant, his child, was the product of a bigamous second >>marriage? The original (and therefore legal) marriage producing children >>also. >> >>I guess what I’m asking is would they see this second child as next of >>kin? >>Is it the oldest child or just any of his children which are considered >>next >>of kin? Does this particular marriage situation detract from the child’s >>right to see their father’s records? >> >> >>Sorry for the vagueness. Any ideas, comments or help would be much >>appreciated. >> >> >> >>Thanking you in advance >> >>Charlotte >> >> >> >> > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. > Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what > country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

The German assault on the Netherlands, Belgium and France did not happen until 10th May 1940. La Grand Luce is near Le Man which was on the line of communication and his death is more likely to have been a traffic accident, or medical condition. Aye Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: Peter Monks [mailto:arethusa@shaw.ca] Sent: 18 May 2006 17:30 To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] LE GRAND-LUCE WAR CEMETERY Greetings, Suggest this could be the start of the German push to roll all allied troops out of Europe, leading to the great evacuation from Dunkirk etc. Peter Freemanboats wrote: >Hi, > >Hope someone can help me with this. > >My Grandfather (Fred Wilson) was killed on 13th April 1940 aged 35 & is >buried in the LE GRAND-LUCE WAR CEMETERY (france), he was a L/Cpl in the >Corps of Military Police. >Can anyone help me with any information on the circumstances of his death as >I can't find any information on attacks in that area at the time, the >Cemetary lists a few others that were killed around that time although not >all from the same regiments. Just wanted to know if anyone knows what was >going on in that area at the time > >Many thanks, >David > > >==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== >Please do not send virus warnings to the list. If you have concerns about a virus, contact your list admin or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the subject line. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Hello David You can obtain a death certificate here, and write a cover letter http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/deaths/. Janice Wales UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Monks" <arethusa@shaw.ca> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] LE GRAND-LUCE WAR CEMETERY > Greetings, > > Suggest this could be the start of the German push to roll all allied > troops out of Europe, leading to the great evacuation from Dunkirk etc. > Peter > > Freemanboats wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>Hope someone can help me with this. >> >>My Grandfather (Fred Wilson) was killed on 13th April 1940 aged 35 & is >>buried in the LE GRAND-LUCE WAR CEMETERY (france), he was a L/Cpl in the >>Corps of Military Police. >>Can anyone help me with any information on the circumstances of his death >>as >>I can't find any information on attacks in that area at the time, the >>Cemetary lists a few others that were killed around that time although not >>all from the same regiments. Just wanted to know if anyone knows what was >>going on in that area at the time >> >>Many thanks, >>David >> >> >>==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== >>Please do not send virus warnings to the list. If you have concerns about >>a virus, contact your list admin or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com >>subscribe in the subject line. We are an international list. Please >>remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country >>you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates >>please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 >>Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country > your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Greetings, Suggest this could be the start of the German push to roll all allied troops out of Europe, leading to the great evacuation from Dunkirk etc. Peter Freemanboats wrote: >Hi, > >Hope someone can help me with this. > >My Grandfather (Fred Wilson) was killed on 13th April 1940 aged 35 & is >buried in the LE GRAND-LUCE WAR CEMETERY (france), he was a L/Cpl in the >Corps of Military Police. >Can anyone help me with any information on the circumstances of his death as >I can't find any information on attacks in that area at the time, the >Cemetary lists a few others that were killed around that time although not >all from the same regiments. Just wanted to know if anyone knows what was >going on in that area at the time > >Many thanks, >David > > >==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== >Please do not send virus warnings to the list. If you have concerns about a virus, contact your list admin or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the subject line. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > >

Greetings, Give it a try anyway. Peter Charlotte Tebbutt wrote: >I have a short (well relatively short) question about getting hold of UK air >force WWII records. > > > >Lets say the airman is now deceased and therefore only the next of kin can >apply for his war record. > > > >What if the applicant, his child, was the product of a bigamous second >marriage? The original (and therefore legal) marriage producing children >also. > > > >I guess what I’m asking is would they see this second child as next of kin? >Is it the oldest child or just any of his children which are considered next >of kin? Does this particular marriage situation detract from the child’s >right to see their father’s records? > > > >Sorry for the vagueness. Any ideas, comments or help would be much >appreciated. > > > > > >Thanking you in advance > >Charlotte > > > > > >

Hi, Hope someone can help me with this. My Grandfather (Fred Wilson) was killed on 13th April 1940 aged 35 & is buried in the LE GRAND-LUCE WAR CEMETERY (france), he was a L/Cpl in the Corps of Military Police. Can anyone help me with any information on the circumstances of his death as I can't find any information on attacks in that area at the time, the Cemetary lists a few others that were killed around that time although not all from the same regiments. Just wanted to know if anyone knows what was going on in that area at the time Many thanks, David

In a message dated 5/17/2006 6:24:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Snowfrog1961@aol.com writes: http://anyboard.net/gov/mil/omaha/posts/507.html Rick, Thanks for all the information. That link is me. I haven't heard from Otis Fenter's family. So I put it on the board again. What ever information I get I share with other family members from the 397th AAA that are looking for information. Like my dad, there are many who didn't say much and their family know nothing.My dad was shot in both arms at A-92. He made a list of where he was but then lists Acchen. I think this must be a mistake . Wasn't Acchen another place of battle? His actual list reads: A-78 A-92 Acchen Wounded New Years Day 1945 by straffing Plane Me 109 then 39th Evac. Hosp. All of his medical records say wounded at a-92. Jo Ann

I have a short (well relatively short) question about getting hold of UK air force WWII records. Lets say the airman is now deceased and therefore only the next of kin can apply for his war record. What if the applicant, his child, was the product of a bigamous second marriage? The original (and therefore legal) marriage producing children also. I guess what I’m asking is would they see this second child as next of kin? Is it the oldest child or just any of his children which are considered next of kin? Does this particular marriage situation detract from the child’s right to see their father’s records? Sorry for the vagueness. Any ideas, comments or help would be much appreciated. Thanking you in advance Charlotte -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/341 - Release Date: 16/05/2006

In regards to your questions about D-day: The invasion was multi-national. so not all of the beaches fell under the first U.S. Army control. All invasion ground forces were initially under the command of British General Sir Bernard L. Montgomery. Under him were the British,Canadian, and U.S. Forces. The U.S. contingent (1st U.S. Army) was under the command of general Omar Bradley. As more U.S. came ashore, the 1st U.S. Army was given to General Courtney Hodges and Bradley moved up to command 12th Army Group. But during the invasion, the 1st Army consisted of 2 Corps commands. The VII Corps landed on Utah Beach under the command of General J. Lawton Collins, whose mission it was to link up with the airborne forces and cut the Cotentin peninsula entirely and facilitate the capture of the port of Cherbourg, which the Allies needed to feed the enormous amount of supplies needed. The V Corps landed at Omaha Beach under the command of General Leonard Gerow, assigned the task of consolidating and linking up with VII Corps on its right flank and British forces on the left flank, before driving inland.The beaches assigned to the British and Canadian forces were Gold, Juno, and Sword.The primary Infantry forces were that of the 1st Infantry Division, 4th Infantry Division, 29th Infantry Division, and Ranger forces. _http://www.web-birds.com/9th/48/d-day,%20order%20of%20battle.jpg_ (http://www.web-birds.com/9th/48/d-day,%20order%20of%20battle.jpg) Of course they were many supporting units(including Naval), attached at the Regimental,Division, Corps, and Army Levels to facilitate the landings. The mulberries were constructed after the beaches were secured by invasion forces to unload supplies, reinforcements, and evacuation of casualties. During the fall of 1944, as the allies were moving eastward, reinforcements and replacement vehicles were becoming harder to find. The U.S. solved this logistical challenge by stripping personnel and vehicles from units it thought it could spare at the time, since the Germans were on the defensive and withdrawing rapidly. This did include AAA units. Airfield A-92(Which was B-62 until 9/18/44) was located at St. Trond, Belgium which was assigned to the 9th Air Force. Units at this base were: 48th Fighter Group 9/44-3/45 404th Fighter Group 10/44-3/45 9th Weather recon Squadron 4-6/45 386th Bomb Group 4-7/45 This sector was within the boundaries between the 9th and 1st U.S. Armies and the 397th probably had corps or army level attachments. It is very possible that the batteries that made up the 397th could have had different attachments.This link with a unit contact may be helpful: _http://anyboard.net/gov/mil/omaha/posts/507.html_ (http://anyboard.net/gov/mil/omaha/posts/507.html) Rick

I am trying to verify the fact that a Japanese hospital ship was intercepted by the US navy in the South Pacific ca 1945 and taken to Morotai. The ship was alleged to have been carrying combat capable troops and arms. I was an infantryman in the AIF on Morotai at the time I heard the story and have a print of a photo taken there. I think I actually saw the ship, but time plays tricks with one's memory. There must be a record of the event of the capture if this did in fact happen. Does anyone know of the event & can name the vessel ?. Couldn't find anything via Google. Regards, from Sydney, Dave

If you can prove your relationship to thes soldier (as father -daughter or father-son) you are next of kin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Tebbutt" <charls.tebbutt@ntlworld.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 5:15 PM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Records request for UK WWII >I have a short (well relatively short) question about getting hold of UK >air > force WWII records. > > > > Lets say the airman is now deceased and therefore only the next of kin can > apply for his war record. > > > > What if the applicant, his child, was the product of a bigamous second > marriage? The original (and therefore legal) marriage producing children > also. > > > > I guess what I’m asking is would they see this second child as next of > kin? > Is it the oldest child or just any of his children which are considered > next > of kin? Does this particular marriage situation detract from the child’s > right to see their father’s records? > > > > Sorry for the vagueness. Any ideas, comments or help would be much > appreciated. > > > > > > Thanking you in advance > > Charlotte > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/341 - Release Date: 16/05/2006 > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. > Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what > country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Does anyone have any information about the RAF 157 Squadron stationed at Predannack? My father was there from about 1942-43. He remembers the name Squadron Leader Cappin. Erica Perkins

Robert Just to clarify, in my last message I did say that I could be wrong about ICERU being 1CERU. What I meant is that there definitely was a 1CERU but I don´t know if there was an ICERU. In case you don´t know there is also a mailing list for Canadian Regiments, as follows: cdnregiments-owner@yahoogroups.com I don´t know how active it is but it may be another source of information worth investigating. Regards Angela -----Original Message----- From: Robert Vanidour [mailto:rgvanidour@execulink.com] Sent: 14 May 2006 17:29 To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Canadian Scottish Regiment I have been trying to decipher the recently acquired military records of Frederick C. Van Idour of the above Regiment. He was killed in Heseler Feld, Germany 19 February 1945 but I can find nothing on-line regarding this battle. Also: His records have many codes. Could or does anyone know what the following mean: R & Q C.I.C. ICERU Robert Vanidour London ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hi Robert The 3rd one, ICERU, could possibly be No. 1 Canadian Engineers Reinforcement Unit. My grandfather, from Ontario, served with this unit until April 1943 and in his correspondence I originally thought the 1 was a capital i. I could be wrong of course. Regards Angela (Living in Switzerland but originally from London. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Vanidour [mailto:rgvanidour@execulink.com] Sent: 14 May 2006 17:29 To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Canadian Scottish Regiment I have been trying to decipher the recently acquired military records of Frederick C. Van Idour of the above Regiment. He was killed in Heseler Feld, Germany 19 February 1945 but I can find nothing on-line regarding this battle. Also: His records have many codes. Could or does anyone know what the following mean: R & Q C.I.C. ICERU Robert Vanidour London ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

I have been trying to decipher the recently acquired military records of Frederick C. Van Idour of the above Regiment. He was killed in Heseler Feld, Germany 19 February 1945 but I can find nothing on-line regarding this battle. Also: His records have many codes. Could or does anyone know what the following mean: R & Q C.I.C. ICERU Robert Vanidour London

Hi List, How would I find out which troopship my uncle was sent to England on? I know Pvt Howard F. Stover was a combat medic with the 308th Medical Battalion 83rd Infantry Division. He was attached to the 331th Infantry Regiment. He was in Company "C" I'm not sue if the Company "C" refers to the Med Bn or the Inf Reg. I assume he was with the infantry unit but not sure. I have information the division arrived in England 16 April 1944 and trained in Wales. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. George

George, Review the following - <http://troopships.pier90.org/crossings/1944.htm> --- GStove9999@aol.com wrote: > Hi List, > How would I find out which troopship my uncle was > sent to England on? > I know Pvt Howard F. Stover was a combat medic with > the 308th Medical > Battalion 83rd Infantry Division. He was attached to > the 331th Infantry Regiment. > He was in Company "C" > I'm not sue if the Company "C" refers to the Med Bn > or the Inf Reg. I assume > he was with the infantry unit but not sure. > I have information the division arrived in England > 16 April 1944 and > trained in Wales. > Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in > advance. > George > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We are an international list! Please, always tell > the list what country your ancestor is from. This > helps all of us, especially you! If you give dates > please help us understand the date you are referring > to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million > records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the > world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >