In a message dated 5/21/2006 8:49:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, JbarL@aol.com writes: I wonder if anyone knows whether the financial records of the individual service men are still in existence and if so, how does one access them? Hello Jessie: That's a great question. I hope someone on this list knows where we can find the answer. Adrienne

Hi Dave: Thanks for the site. I just visited. Pictures are great. Appreciate the time you took to reply and I tend to agree with your explanation. Sounds logical. Thanks again for your help. Adrienne Illinois

Something that we are also dealing with is the fact that there was a fire in DC that destroyed many records. My sister and I were able to get my Fathers Award information and even had his medals restored to us (Which had been destroyed in a personal tragidy, a fire). The Department of the Army mailed us the letter and the awards. However, my Uncle, who's ship went down at sea, we can't even find much proof that he was even on the ship that he was on. There may be some politics involved, but the tragidy of a fire destroyed a lot of personel records of all of the services. Barbara Phillips > [Original Message] > From: <JbarL@aol.com> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/22/2006 10:06:12 AM > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Service Records. > > We in the States are muddling along trying to overcome the wonderful idea > of a Congressman from my home district who thought that the government would > be better off if it didn't retain "useless" records about WW2 and convinced > the powers that be to destroy them. I have no idea of what was destroyed and > what was retained , but as each of us who are trying to piece together from > bits and pieces of service records kept by our service men share > information , perhaps we may be able to help each other. > > Jessie, Calif > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Hi Fred: Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. I appreciate it. I have January 29, 1944 as my friend's ending date for ASTP. Regards, Adrienne

In a message dated 5/21/2006 5:25:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, diamond6468@mindspring.com writes: http://navysite.de/index.htm Thanks for the site, Delilah. I entered USS West Point as a search and came up with the following site with some really comprehensive information on all types of Naval ships, troop transports and a great history of the West Point during the war. Unfortunately, when it came to its voyages from Boston to England it only noted that there were five and lacked dates. _http://www.historycentral.com/Navy/ap/West%20Point%20II.html_ (http://www.historycentral.com/Navy/ap/West%20Point%20II.html) The site also had a contact person and email address so I sent a note asking if there was any other information about those voyages. This site has photos of various troop transports and I found several photos of the USS West Point + pre and post war pics as the "America." _http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/22023.htm_ (http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/22023.htm) At last! Following quote is from _http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/australis/history.html_ (http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/australis/history.html) "The "America" was the largest merchant ship built at this time-"The Queen of the luxury liners"-in just 11 days she was stripped of her finery and converted into the U.S. Navy's largest troop carrier." "On her Boston-Liverpool crossing of August 9-14, 1944, with part of the 95th Division she had 9,305 people aboard, the most carried on a single U.S. vessel during the war." If only I could find a list of those aboard for that date! Adrienne

For !NZP,my ASTP unit was disbanded around the end of January,1944.

In the dark ages before modern computers we used keypunch cards and card readers to collect data and to input data into main frame computers......if the government still has the data on "hollerith " cards all is not lost. I wonder if anyone knows whether the financial records of the individual service men are still in existence and if so, how does one access them? Jessie , Calif A very ancient computer programmer

67 HAA ( York and Lancs )Heavy AA Regiment RA (TA) Sep 39 UK Home Forces Sep 40 UK 50th AA Brigade 2nd AA Division based in the Midlands. Nov 41 N Africa Middle East Forces. Feb 42 India 1st India AA Brigade Sep 42 Assam 9th AA Brigade Oct 43 Burma 4 Corps Jul 44 Burma 33 Indian Corps Oct 44 Burma 4 Corps as Infantry October 1944 to January 1945. May 45 Burma 24 AA Brigade Batteries were 187, 188 and 189. The timeline for Burma gives. 27th March 1944 General Stopford's 33 Corps is put under Slim's control and ordered to concentrate at Dimapur before advancing to Kohima. A second Brigade of the 5th Division arrives at Imphal by air and the third brigade is being sent to Dimpaur also for Kohima. June 1944 Battle of Kohima 5th June 1944 At Kohima, an outflanking attack at last forces the Japanese off the Aradura Spur and INTO RETREAT. It still remains to clear the road to Imphal. Looks like he was killed at the Battle of Kohima, 1944. Probably buried near Kohima originally and then transferred to Taukkyan Cemetery after the war when they concentrated the CWGC Cemeteries. A good book to get hold of will be BURMA, THE LONGEST WAR, by Louis ALLAN See http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1842122606/002-7292579-8748837?v=glance&n=2 83155 Aye Malcolm

You are most welcome Carol. Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Lylyk" <clylyk@telus.net> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] W COWLES > Hello Janice. > Thanks for the information on the Taukkyan cemetery. I guess > from reading that, he could have been killed anywhere in Asia > although it does sound like most of the soldiers were killed in > Burma. I have seen the CWGC site. > > Carol Lylyk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dudley Clist" <dudley.clist@btinternet.com> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:51 AM > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] W COWLES > > > | Carol > | I have found a web page with some information pertinent to your > question: > | > | Extract: "Graves were also transferred from civil and > cantonment cemeteries, > | and a number of jungle and roadside graves were brought in". > | http://www.woolletthistory.co.uk/cwgc/arthur_2.htm hope this > helps. > | > | I did find Walter listed on the Commonwealth Wargraves > Commission. > | > | Janice > | Wales > | UK > | > | > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. > Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what > country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Does anyone have any specific information on the following? The 10th Air Disarmament Squadron, I know they were based in Eisenach Germany in WW2 and were possible liberators of concentrations camps there? I would appreciate any information, maybe the squadron merged with another? Thank You Janice Wales UK

http://troopships.pier90.org/crossings/1944b.htm looks like the West Point left Boston on Aug 19, 1944 and arrived in Liverpool 7-26-1944. ----- Original Message ----- From: <INZP@aol.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Camp Rucker, Camp Indiantown Gap, Carlisle, PA +ASTP +USS ... | In a message dated 5/21/2006 2:04:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, | diamond6468@mindspring.com writes: | | _http://navysite.de/index.htm_ (http://navysite.de/index.htm) | Delilah: | | I believe that my problem with the SS America is that more than one ship | carried that name. One was the USS America, a carrier, and the one I'm | searching for is a luxury liner that was converted to a troop transport during WW2. | When my friend referred to it as the USS America I need to find out whether | there was indeed a SS America or America or ... because it was a luxury liner | converted to troop transport was it renamed the USS West Point. I found | several references to West Point recently. I guess my question is how do I | determine on which troop ship he traveled when leaving the port of Boston on Aug. | 9, 1944. | | This is what I found re the SS America from the following site: | _http://www.flare.net/users/e9ee52a/S.S.%20America.htm_ | (http://www.flare.net/users/e9ee52a/S.S.%20America.htm) | | "The story of the America is unique. She was launched as a luxury liner on | August 31 1939. The next day Hitler invaded Poland, and the world was at war. | Sailing as a luxury liner to Europe was not an option. The Navy had her | converted from 1,202 passengers to 5,400 ( latter to over 8000). She carried over | 300,000 troops safely all over the world, sailing without protecting escort | ships. Using the ship’s speed and maneuverability, her crew outwitted hostile | craft at sea." | | Built by Newport News Shipbuilding & Dry Dock Launched 1939 Retired | from US Lines 1965 Naval Architects Gibbs & Cox, New York Interior Architects | Eggers & Higgins, New York Interior Design Smyth,Urquart,Marckwald, NY | Full Displacement, tons 35440 Length 723 ft Breadth 93' 6" Number of Decks 10 | Public Spaces 23 Maximum speed Over 25 knots First class passengers 519 | Cabin class passengers 414 Tourist class passengers 116 Crew 675 | | | There is another site that states the luxury liner America was renamed the | USS West Point. _http://www.files.trailblazersww2.org/Docs/a275.pdf_ | (http://www.files.trailblazersww2.org/Docs/a275.pdf) | | Under Military.com Content - The America, luxury liner, is again referred to | as "transport ship West Point" & at | _http://www.thedailystar.com/news/community/obits/2005/11/ob1118.html_ | (http://www.thedailystar.com/news/community/obits/2005/11/ob1118.html) | again referred to as former luxury liner America and now the West Point. | | I just don't understand why he referred to the ship as the USS America if | she was really the West Point. | | Great information and I do hope that those records exist. | | Adrienne | | | | | | | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. | | ============================== | Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. | Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx |

In a message dated 5/21/2006 2:04:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, diamond6468@mindspring.com writes: _http://navysite.de/index.htm_ (http://navysite.de/index.htm) Delilah: I believe that my problem with the SS America is that more than one ship carried that name. One was the USS America, a carrier, and the one I'm searching for is a luxury liner that was converted to a troop transport during WW2. When my friend referred to it as the USS America I need to find out whether there was indeed a SS America or America or ... because it was a luxury liner converted to troop transport was it renamed the USS West Point. I found several references to West Point recently. I guess my question is how do I determine on which troop ship he traveled when leaving the port of Boston on Aug. 9, 1944. This is what I found re the SS America from the following site: _http://www.flare.net/users/e9ee52a/S.S.%20America.htm_ (http://www.flare.net/users/e9ee52a/S.S.%20America.htm) "The story of the America is unique. She was launched as a luxury liner on August 31 1939. The next day Hitler invaded Poland, and the world was at war. Sailing as a luxury liner to Europe was not an option. The Navy had her converted from 1,202 passengers to 5,400 ( latter to over 8000). She carried over 300,000 troops safely all over the world, sailing without protecting escort ships. Using the ship’s speed and maneuverability, her crew outwitted hostile craft at sea." Built by Newport News Shipbuilding & Dry Dock Launched 1939 Retired from US Lines 1965 Naval Architects Gibbs & Cox, New York Interior Architects Eggers & Higgins, New York Interior Design Smyth,Urquart,Marckwald, NY Full Displacement, tons 35440 Length 723 ft Breadth 93' 6" Number of Decks 10 Public Spaces 23 Maximum speed Over 25 knots First class passengers 519 Cabin class passengers 414 Tourist class passengers 116 Crew 675 There is another site that states the luxury liner America was renamed the USS West Point. _http://www.files.trailblazersww2.org/Docs/a275.pdf_ (http://www.files.trailblazersww2.org/Docs/a275.pdf) Under Military.com Content - The America, luxury liner, is again referred to as "transport ship West Point" & at _http://www.thedailystar.com/news/community/obits/2005/11/ob1118.html_ (http://www.thedailystar.com/news/community/obits/2005/11/ob1118.html) again referred to as former luxury liner America and now the West Point. I just don't understand why he referred to the ship as the USS America if she was really the West Point. Great information and I do hope that those records exist. Adrienne

Carol I have found a web page with some information pertinent to your question: Extract: "Graves were also transferred from civil and cantonment cemeteries, and a number of jungle and roadside graves were brought in". http://www.woolletthistory.co.uk/cwgc/arthur_2.htm hope this helps. I did find Walter listed on the Commonwealth Wargraves Commission. Janice Wales UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Lylyk" <clylyk@telus.net> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 5:30 PM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] W COWLES > COWLES, WALTER > > Rank: Gunner in the Royal Artillery, 188 Bty., 67 H.A.A. Regt. > > Date of Death: 23/06/1944 > > Service No: 874443 > > Walter Cowles was killed in Asia and is buried in the Taukkyan War > Cemetery in Burma. I was wondering if anyone would be able to tell me > where he would have been stationed at that time. Would he have been in > Burma or did they bring the soldiers bodies there to be buried that had > been killed in other places in the east. > > > > Carol Lylyk > > Calgary Alberta Canada > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. > Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what > country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

http://www.roll-of-honour.org.uk/Cemeteries/Taukkyan_War_Cemetery/ Just found this site on Google. You can look up names on their honour roll. They show their number, unit name, date of death and next of kin. I would imagine that would be all that the cemetery would have. Carol Lylyk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] W COWLES | Why don't you write the cemetery and ask for any info they have on this | person? |

Slight correction Delila - some, if not all, the British ships taken over as troopships were given the prefix HMT ( His Majesty's Transport). The RMS Queen Mary thus became HMT Queen Mary. Ditto the RMS Queen Elizabeth. The "RMS" was Royal Mail Steamer. British (& commonwealth)ships were not all steam ships - diesel powered vessels were MV (Motor Vessel), not SS (Steam Ship). The "S" in Naval vessels was for just "Ship" ie. USS was United States Ship & HMS was His Majesty's Ship. Don't know about US troopships, don't think there was a change of prefix. Regards, From Oz, Dave Delilah wrote: > ...... When a luxury liner was taken and used to ferry > troops, it was not names a 'USS', it would of been just 'SS' or "HMS", so if > you looking for a ship that was previoulsy a liner, it still would be 'SS ?' > the first SS Mary and SS Elizabeth were both taken and used for troops....... > > delilah > > > >

Thank you very much Malcolm for this information, much appreciated. I checked with the Main Library here in Calgary and they have a copy of that book and will send it out to my local library branch . Carol Lylyk ----- Original Message ----- From: "M.G.Fergusson" <fergussons@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 1:55 PM Subject: RE: [WORLD WAR II] W COWLES | 67 HAA ( York and Lancs )Heavy AA Regiment RA (TA) | | Sep 39 UK Home Forces | Sep 40 UK 50th AA Brigade 2nd AA Division based in the Midlands. | Nov 41 N Africa Middle East Forces. | Feb 42 India 1st India AA Brigade | Sep 42 Assam 9th AA Brigade | Oct 43 Burma 4 Corps | Jul 44 Burma 33 Indian Corps | Oct 44 Burma 4 Corps as Infantry October 1944 to January 1945. | May 45 Burma 24 AA Brigade | | Batteries were 187, 188 and 189. |

Why don't you write the cemetery and ask for any info they have on this person? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Lylyk" <clylyk@telus.net> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] W COWLES | Hello Janice. | Thanks for the information on the Taukkyan cemetery. I guess | from reading that, he could have been killed anywhere in Asia | although it does sound like most of the soldiers were killed in | Burma. I have seen the CWGC site. | | Carol Lylyk | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Dudley Clist" <dudley.clist@btinternet.com> | To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:51 AM | Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] W COWLES | | || Carol || I have found a web page with some information pertinent to your | question: || || Extract: "Graves were also transferred from civil and | cantonment cemeteries, || and a number of jungle and roadside graves were brought in". || http://www.woolletthistory.co.uk/cwgc/arthur_2.htm hope this | helps. || || I did find Walter listed on the Commonwealth Wargraves | Commission. || || Janice || Wales || UK || || | | | | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html | This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. | | ============================== | Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for | ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: | http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx | |

I called them and they said no, I will see if I can find the link that they sent - now there were a lot of military records destroyed in the fire at St Louis center, but NARA is trying to put that info back together by using other things that the military had to complete and fill out - i.e. the punch cards they used back then. You know those were the 'thing' for inputting data - everybody wanted to be a data input person and put it on those cards, I forget exactly what it was called. delilah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhonda Yamauchi" <rhonda.yamauchi@gmail.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Camp Rucker, Camp Indiantown Gap, Carlisle, PA +ASTP +USS ... |I have a letter from NARA telling me that those records were destroyed. | However, there was no reason given for why they were destroyed. | | On 5/21/06, Delilah <diamond6468@mindspring.com> wrote: | > | > The thing about the US destroying all records of certain things is not | > true. | > NARA says it is not true! | > | > http://navysite.de/ships/aoe3.htm This link says the USS Seattle ran into | > the USS American, scroll down to Aug 18, 1998 on the left. | > http://navysite.de/index.htm on this site, put in USS America in the | > search blank and you will get lots of links to the USS America, and some | > of | > the crew. The blank in on the right and is by google. | > | > delilah | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: <INZP@aol.com> | > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> | > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:53 AM | > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Camp Rucker, Camp Indiantown Gap, Carlisle, PA | > +ASTP +USS ... | > | > | > | Thanks for the information about Camp Rucker. I think he meant SS | > America | > | but of course I'm not sure. Unfortunately, according to the web site | > "1944 | > | Troop Ship Crossings" -- | > | "The records of ships used to carry troops to their theaters of | > | operations were destroyed intentionally in 1951. "According to our [U. | > S. | > | National Archives] records, in 1951 the Department of the Army | > destroyed | > all | > | passenger lists, manifests, logs of vessels, and troop movement files | > of | > United | > | States Army Transports for World War II." (... no word on why the | > records | > were | > | destroyed.) Thus there is no longer an official record of who sailed on | > what | > | ship..." Information on this web site is from veterans who crossed on | > these | > | troop ships. | > | | > | If someone knows of another website where I could check to see if | > the SS | > | America left Boston in August of 1944 for Liverpool I'd welcome the | > information. | > | | > | Thanks for answering my note. | > | | > | Adrienne | > | | > | | > | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | > | Please do not send virus warnings to the list. If you have concerns | > about | > a virus, contact your list admin or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com | > subscribe in the subject line. We are an international list. Please | > remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country | > you | > are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please | > help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov | > 1944 | > or Nov 4, 1944. | > | | > | ============================== | > | Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the | > | last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: | > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx | > | | > | > | > | > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | > We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country | > your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give | > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For | > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. | > | > ============================== | > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the | > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: | > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx | > | > | | | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html | This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. | | ============================== | Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. | Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx | |

I have a letter from NARA telling me that those records were destroyed. However, there was no reason given for why they were destroyed. On 5/21/06, Delilah <diamond6468@mindspring.com> wrote: > > The thing about the US destroying all records of certain things is not > true. > NARA says it is not true! > > http://navysite.de/ships/aoe3.htm This link says the USS Seattle ran into > the USS American, scroll down to Aug 18, 1998 on the left. > http://navysite.de/index.htm on this site, put in USS America in the > search blank and you will get lots of links to the USS America, and some > of > the crew. The blank in on the right and is by google. > > delilah > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <INZP@aol.com> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:53 AM > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Camp Rucker, Camp Indiantown Gap, Carlisle, PA > +ASTP +USS ... > > > | Thanks for the information about Camp Rucker. I think he meant SS > America > | but of course I'm not sure. Unfortunately, according to the web site > "1944 > | Troop Ship Crossings" -- > | "The records of ships used to carry troops to their theaters of > | operations were destroyed intentionally in 1951. "According to our [U. > S. > | National Archives] records, in 1951 the Department of the Army > destroyed > all > | passenger lists, manifests, logs of vessels, and troop movement files > of > United > | States Army Transports for World War II." (... no word on why the > records > were > | destroyed.) Thus there is no longer an official record of who sailed on > what > | ship..." Information on this web site is from veterans who crossed on > these > | troop ships. > | > | If someone knows of another website where I could check to see if > the SS > | America left Boston in August of 1944 for Liverpool I'd welcome the > information. > | > | Thanks for answering my note. > | > | Adrienne > | > | > | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > | Please do not send virus warnings to the list. If you have concerns > about > a virus, contact your list admin or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com > subscribe in the subject line. We are an international list. Please > remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country > you > are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please > help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov > 1944 > or Nov 4, 1944. > | > | ============================== > | Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > | last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > | > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country > your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

The thing about the US destroying all records of certain things is not true. NARA says it is not true! http://navysite.de/ships/aoe3.htm This link says the USS Seattle ran into the USS American, scroll down to Aug 18, 1998 on the left. http://navysite.de/index.htm on this site, put in USS America in the search blank and you will get lots of links to the USS America, and some of the crew. The blank in on the right and is by google. delilah ----- Original Message ----- From: <INZP@aol.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] Camp Rucker, Camp Indiantown Gap, Carlisle, PA +ASTP +USS ... | Thanks for the information about Camp Rucker. I think he meant SS America | but of course I'm not sure. Unfortunately, according to the web site "1944 | Troop Ship Crossings" -- | "The records of ships used to carry troops to their theaters of | operations were destroyed intentionally in 1951. "According to our [U. S. | National Archives] records, in 1951 the Department of the Army destroyed all | passenger lists, manifests, logs of vessels, and troop movement files of United | States Army Transports for World War II." (... no word on why the records were | destroyed.) Thus there is no longer an official record of who sailed on what | ship..." Information on this web site is from veterans who crossed on these | troop ships. | | If someone knows of another website where I could check to see if the SS | America left Boston in August of 1944 for Liverpool I'd welcome the information. | | Thanks for answering my note. | | Adrienne | | | ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | Please do not send virus warnings to the list. If you have concerns about a virus, contact your list admin or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the subject line. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. | | ============================== | Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the | last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx |