Is there anywhere on the web or otherwise that I can find out a discharge date for my uncle, Oda Hart?

You can get a copy at www.NARA.gov IF they have one. Better try his local county court house first. Most were recorded there. Paul Hinkle WW2 US Vet nell lamantia <nellie@woh.rr.com> wrote: Is there anywhere on the web or otherwise that I can find out a discharge date for my uncle, Oda Hart? ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx Yahoo is my non-personal mail. For personal mail only use <pdhinkle@radiotower.net> --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

I have found this web page maybe helpful as you don't have much to go on so try http://home.freeuk.net/rmarg/data/statnumbers.htm Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: <INZP@aol.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:50 PM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] U.S. Troop arrivals Liverpool + Camps south of London > Is there a record or records somewhere giving arrival dates of U.S. troops > in England, Liverpool to be exact, sometime around August 12-16, 1944? > > Also, would anyone know to which camps these troops were assigned. I was > told that after arriving in Liverpool troops were placed on trains and my > friend was sent to a camp south of London, somewhere in the countryside. > He > didn't give me the name but said there was a large estate located nearby > with a > wall around it. Where would I begin research to find out which towns or > areas > had U.S. troops encamped nearby? I realize the description is vague but > that's all I have to go on. Thank you, > > Adrienne Inman > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > To post queries/answers to the list, send an email to: > WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com We are an international list. Please remember > to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in > now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help > us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or > Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Go to http://www.archives.gov/ and click "Military Service Records" under "Most Requested Section". Then click on "Mail or Fax a Standard Form SF-180" which can be printed out. Complete the Form SF-180 foll;owing instructions and the mail to address listed. Ellis Hosbach Bethel Park, PA

Is there a record or records somewhere giving arrival dates of U.S. troops in England, Liverpool to be exact, sometime around August 12-16, 1944? Also, would anyone know to which camps these troops were assigned. I was told that after arriving in Liverpool troops were placed on trains and my friend was sent to a camp south of London, somewhere in the countryside. He didn't give me the name but said there was a large estate located nearby with a wall around it. Where would I begin research to find out which towns or areas had U.S. troops encamped nearby? I realize the description is vague but that's all I have to go on. Thank you, Adrienne Inman

I don't know about that form, but do you know which branch of the service? What is his name? Do you know if he was fighting in Europe or someplace like Iwa Jima? You can alway write a letter to the department of the Army or Navy, or Marine Corp. That's all I did for my Father, and I didn't have to fill out any forms. Post all his info on the list and I am sure some one will know where to send you, or might even have information on him. There are also many WWII websites including the WWII memorial, that if your Brother in laws name isn't there you can add it. I have added my Father and 2 Uncles. Barbara Phillips > [Original Message] > From: <FRED1136@aol.com> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/24/2006 12:04:19 AM > Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Re: WORLDWAR2-D Digest V06 #160 > > I need help! I would like to find out the exact circumstances of my > brother-in-law's death in WW2. I understand that I need a form 293, but I have been > unable to find out where to obtain a copy,or where to send it when filled > out. Whoever out there has the answer,please share! > Whatever he did,it earned him a Silver Star! > > > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We welcome tributes of your World War II ancestors. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Why don't you tell us his name? Maybe we could help. Jane

I need help! I would like to find out the exact circumstances of my brother-in-law's death in WW2. I understand that I need a form 293, but I have been unable to find out where to obtain a copy,or where to send it when filled out. Whoever out there has the answer,please share! Whatever he did,it earned him a Silver Star!

Hi I have a newly found relative who died between 29/30 May 1940 in the evacuation of Dunkirk. He was killed aboard the SS Waverly. What I wanted to know was:- why is he buried in Hamburg Cemetery? Was this usual? Any help much appreciated. Kind regards Judith Kettlewell

Field Title Value Meaning ARMY SERIAL NUMBER 36336554 36336554 NAME CIZEWSKI#FELIX#A######## CIZEWSKI#FELIX#A######## RESIDENCE: STATE 61 ILLINOIS RESIDENCE: COUNTY 031 COOK PLACE OF ENLISTMENT 6120 CHICAGO ILLINOIS DATE OF ENLISTMENT DAY 07 07 DATE OF ENLISTMENT MONTH 05 05 DATE OF ENLISTMENT YEAR 42 42 GRADE: ALPHA DESIGNATION PVT# Private GRADE: CODE 8 Private BRANCH: ALPHA DESIGNATION BI# Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA BRANCH: CODE 00 Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA FIELD USE AS DESIRED # # TERM OF ENLISTMENT 5 Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law LONGEVITY ### ### SOURCE OF ARMY PERSONNEL 0 Civil Life NATIVITY 61 ILLINOIS YEAR OF BIRTH 18 18 RACE AND CITIZENSHIP 1 White, citizen EDUCATION 3 3 years of high school CIVILIAN OCCUPATION 736 TRACKTOR DRIVER* or TRUCK DRIVER, HEAVY or CHAUFFEUR or TRUCK DRIVER, LIGHT MARITAL STATUS 6 Single, without dependents COMPONENT OF THE ARMY 7 Selectees (Enlisted Men) CARD NUMBER # # BOX NUMBER 1067 1067 FILM REEL NUMBER 5.129 5.129 Greetings ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonard Cizewski" <cizewski@yahoo.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:17 PM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Cert. of Mil. Serv.: WW2 Record reconstructed from alt. sources > My late father's WW2 records were apparently among > those destroyed in the '73 Records Center fire. I have > posted on my web site the Certification of Military > Service the Records reconstructed from alternate > sources. They state this can be used for any purpose > for which the original discharge document was used, > including the application for veterans benefits. > > http://www.ibiblio.org/cizewski/cert/cert.html > > > > Leonard H. Cizewski > Son of the late PFC Felix A. Cizewski, Signal Corps, Europe, WW2 > Son-in-law of Ralph E. Robinson, Landing Ship Medium 34, Pacific, WW2 > > http://personalpages.tds.net/%7Ecizewski/Felix/ww2index.html > > http://www.ibiblio.org/cizewski/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country > your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Hi Write to this address and you get your records. US Total Army Personnel Command ATTN Tapc-Pao (Foia) 200 Stovall Street Room 7N50 Alexandria VA 22332-0404 USA Bye ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonard Cizewski" <cizewski@yahoo.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:17 PM Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Cert. of Mil. Serv.: WW2 Record reconstructed from alt. sources > My late father's WW2 records were apparently among > those destroyed in the '73 Records Center fire. I have > posted on my web site the Certification of Military > Service the Records reconstructed from alternate > sources. They state this can be used for any purpose > for which the original discharge document was used, > including the application for veterans benefits. > > http://www.ibiblio.org/cizewski/cert/cert.html > > > > Leonard H. Cizewski > Son of the late PFC Felix A. Cizewski, Signal Corps, Europe, WW2 > Son-in-law of Ralph E. Robinson, Landing Ship Medium 34, Pacific, WW2 > > http://personalpages.tds.net/%7Ecizewski/Felix/ww2index.html > > http://www.ibiblio.org/cizewski/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country > your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give > dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

This was taken from the site on the Hamilton, so a report was made on the personnel lost, if there is a report, you should be able to get a copy of that report. There is a partial list of names on the site but some of the letters I cannot get to come up, that may be a fault with the site. I have written to the webmaster to ask if it can be fixed. So now if I wanted a copy of that report, I would check NARA first, then check with the Dept of the Army. Also for everybody's information, everything prior to 1956 (I believe that year is correct) has been declassfied. ** SS Paul Hamilton Personnel Lost at Sea - 20 Apr 1944 ** This roster was complied by the Casualty Branch, the Adjutant General's Office, Washington, DC - List No. 62 to document the "Personnel Lost at Sea as Result of Ship Sinking During World War II of the Liberty Ship SS Paul Hamilton (Hull No. 0227) off the coast of Algiers, North Africa on 20 Apr 1944 Sources - Abbreviations (1) Report of Proceedings of a Board of Officers, Headquarters, 9107 TSU-QMC, American Graves Registration Service, Mediterranean Zone, Rome, Italy, on 17 Jun 1949. Board Members: Major Townsend C. Anderson (O-30195), Major William D. Kirkpatrick (O-419138), Captain Samuel F. Fritz (O-410379), Captain Carroll A. Pinner (O-1736493), Captain Richard H. Tuttle (O-56893), First Lieutenant Carl Hunter (O-1322854), and First Lieutenant Anthony J. Daniels (O-420501). Approved 10 Jun 1949 by Colonel Whitfield W. Watson.

I made a document of the names thru the letter "J", the rest of the letters would not come up as a page - if you want to see these other names, let me know. delilah

The military kept all kinds of different records on their personnel, one is called the "Individual Deceased Personnel Files" (IDPF) - anyone can get the IDPF on any deceased military under FOIA - there are different bits of information in each file according to the circumstances of the the deceased and how they died. There is a web site where you can fill out the form and mail it in, they do charge, you can ask to have this charge waived, maybe they will if you are related, I know they did not for me, although I have not paid them, the government is not allowed to make money off its records, so they call it "research, copy, etc. fees". The info below is from the web site: World War II Casualty Files "If you would like to find information on any World War II casualty, you can order a copy of the "Individual Deceased Personnel 293 File" (IDPF/293) from U.S. Total Army Personnel Command Center. There are IDPF/293 files for EVERY World War II casualty, ALL branches, i.e., U.S. Army, U.S. Army Air Corps, U.S. Navy and U.S. Marine Corps. For information related to Merchant Marine Casualties during World War II, contact the U.S. Coast Guard." This site has a form you can print out/fill out and copy and mail, and it does say it takesa while. Now according to the letter I got when I requested copies of the deceased on a research project on a downed aircraft, they told me they only had resources to searhfor 10 files at a time, some of the files may of had as many as 50-60 pages. http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/HAMILTON-005.htm The address I sent to is different than the one on the web site, mine went to 200 Stovall Street, Alexandria, Va., 22332-0404, but it has beeen a couple of years, so you may want to use the one on the site - also include your e-mail address, as when I requested the copies I got, I forgot to send the names (OK so I am old and forgetful) so the person e-mailed me and the rest was handled thru e-mail. Also the person I dealt with was a Thomas M. Jones, Chief, Freedom of Information and Privacy Act Office, ARMY HUMAN RESOURCES COMMAND. Like I said they will bill you when they send the records. Some of the info I received was about the person, the letter of notification to the listed next of kin, how much pay he/her was entitled and lots of other stuff. Hope this helps, if it does, let me know, I like to know if what I do helps anybody. delilah evans

I have records on my father from the Marine Corps for 1946. It appears that he was in "M" btry. 4th battalion, 11th Marine Force. Went to China and returned from there on the ship USS General H.W. Butner at Taku, China departed there 15 July 1946 arrived San Diego, Ca. 9 August, 1946. I also have a list of names that I believe were the other members of the battalion. If anyone looking for this information please contact me with a name. Judy

I'm sure glad that more and more is being found. I keep hoping that they will find al the mising "L", "M" & "P's" Barbara > [Original Message] > From: Delilah <diamond6468@mindspring.com> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/23/2006 11:52:13 AM > Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Hamilton > > I made a document of the names thru the letter "J", the rest of the letters > would not come up as a page - if you want to see these other names, let me > know. > delilah > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Barbara, You might check the County Courthouse. When discharged, U. S. veterans were encouraged to have their documents recorded, and many did. Also, your local Veteran Service Officer may have some documents available. I salute your uncle's service and wish you success in your research. Best wishes, David Dorsey ddorsey@mindspring.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Phillips" <bphil1@earthlink.net> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] WORLD WAR II Service Records. > Rhonda, > This is very useful information, Thank you. But sad too. With a fire that > destroyed one set of records and this, it makes it very difficult to find > information on our families. There is hardly anything I can find on my > Mothers Brother, it's all gone. What little we had went when my Aunts > house > blew up from a bad propane tank. Everythng is dust. At least I have a > picture of my Uncle in Uniform. > Thank you, > Barbara > >

Paul, This is good informatio to know. This is actually what has been happening with my Dad, at least in part. But, I don't have enough on my Uncle, mostly stuff from the Internet. Barbara Phillips > [Original Message] > From: Paul Hinkle <pdhinkle@yahoo.com> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/23/2006 11:41:33 AM > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] 1973 NARA fire information > > When you have the occassion to write NARA/NPRC rememb er they can rebuild a file when you give them copies of what you have. > Copy each documnet and send it along with your request. > Paul Hinkle WW2 US vet > > Tom Mueller <tommcclib@yahoo.com> wrote: > The best place to go for information on the 1973 fire > is the horses mouth; NARA itself. Find out about the > loss, and their efforts to recover from the loss. > http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel/fire-1973.html > > See the NARA homepage at http://www.archives.gov for > more FAQs. > > Tom Mueller > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 > > > > > Yahoo is my non-personal mail. For personal mail only use <pdhinkle@radiotower.net> > > --------------------------------- > Be a chatter box. Enjoy free PC-to-PC calls with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. > > > ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

When you have the occassion to write NARA/NPRC rememb er they can rebuild a file when you give them copies of what you have. Copy each documnet and send it along with your request. Paul Hinkle WW2 US vet Tom Mueller <tommcclib@yahoo.com> wrote: The best place to go for information on the 1973 fire is the horses mouth; NARA itself. Find out about the loss, and their efforts to recover from the loss. http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel/fire-1973.html See the NARA homepage at http://www.archives.gov for more FAQs. Tom Mueller __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 Yahoo is my non-personal mail. For personal mail only use <pdhinkle@radiotower.net> --------------------------------- Be a chatter box. Enjoy free PC-to-PC calls with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.

My late father's WW2 records were apparently among those destroyed in the '73 Records Center fire. I have posted on my web site the Certification of Military Service the Records reconstructed from alternate sources. They state this can be used for any purpose for which the original discharge document was used, including the application for veterans benefits. http://www.ibiblio.org/cizewski/cert/cert.html Leonard H. Cizewski Son of the late PFC Felix A. Cizewski, Signal Corps, Europe, WW2 Son-in-law of Ralph E. Robinson, Landing Ship Medium 34, Pacific, WW2 http://personalpages.tds.net/%7Ecizewski/Felix/ww2index.html http://www.ibiblio.org/cizewski/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com