Lakeland Ledger July 28,2006 Fort Meade For many years Mr Robert Lovett Clanton was just a phone call away when resident of Polk County needed their vehicles towed and repaired "Everybody knew him. We went several times to Wauchula, Zolfo Springs- he was known all over this part of Florida" his wife of 59 years Rena Belle Clanton said "He has six wreckers, he built four of them, He took the trucks and built the wreckers on the back' The retired owner of Clanton's Wrecker Service in Fort Meade died of heart failure Thursday July 27,2006 at home He was 84. Born in Sparks, Georgia on Jan 25, 1922 he enlisted in the National Guard at the age of 16. Mr Clanton was 17 years old when World War II erupted and he served as a member of the 101st Airborne Division of the Army "He was with one of the first troops that went overseas when World War II broke out.He Went overseas on the Queen Mary." Rena Clanton said While in New Guinea, a mortar blast that struck in front of him cost Mr Clanton his eyesight. He came to Fort Meade from Zolfo Springs in 1961 and started the wrecker service he and his wife operated together for 35 years. Mr Canton learned to play the guitar at an early age and during the 1970s he was a member of the band Palmetto Bluegrass. The band performed throughout the state of Florida as well as in Alabama and Georgia. He was a member of the Disabled American Veterans, Blinded Veterans Association and the American Legion in Wauchula. He was a member of First Church of God in Fort Meade. IOn addidion to his wife Rena Belle Clanton Mr Clanton is survived by his sons, Chuck Daniels, California,Raymond Clanton, Lacey Clanton, David CClanton all of Fort Meade daughter Frances Poole, Cadwell Georgia; nine grandchildren; 20 reeat grandchildren. Visitation will be from 6 to 8 this evening at Moody-Brant Funeral Chapel, Fort Meade. Services will be at 2 pm Saturday at the funeral home chapel.

Lakeland Ledger July 28, 2006 Mr Roger W. Bryden of Lakeland died of complications from polio Tuesday July 25, 2006 in Lakeland. He was 91 Born in Calgary, Canada on June 4, 1915, he came to Lakeland from Janesville Wisconsin in 1971. He was mechanic. He was an Army Air Corps veteran of W orld War II, serving in the 70th Service Squadron in Gander, New Finland. He was a member of the VFW and of Christ Lutheran Church. Mr Bryden is survived by his wife of 68 years, Gertrude Bryden; son Daniel Bryden, Janesville; four grandchildren; three great grandchildren Visitation will be from 6 to 8 this evening at Lakeland Funeral Home. Services will be at 10am Saturday at the funeral home chapel. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to Good Shephard Hospice, 105 Arneson Ave. Auburndale, Fl 33823 or VISTE 1232 E Magnolia St Lakeland Fl 33801

Thanks for the responses to my question. Didn't think that there could be so many 1sts, and those didn't include the 1st shot down over England! Forrest, I would be most grateful for the photos, in my picture its just the guards. Regards, Mick.

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 06:12:31 EDT, Csgen50@aol.com wrote: >I've joined this list in the hope that I can start to put together my late >fathers RAF service record... >He joined the RAF in 39 and did his basic training at Catterick in >Yorkshire. One of his first duties was to stand guard over the 1st German aircraft >shot down in WW2. I have a photo of him with the rest of the guards but >unfortunately it doesn't state where or when it was taken. >Can anyone help with some details please, I've not had any luck with >reference books etc. There were quite a number of "firsts" relating to German aircraft, and the precise wording of the claim is important. For instance, the "1st German aircraft shot down in WW2" seems to have crashed quite far out in the North Sea, after being shot down by a naval pilot! The following claims are taken from a variety of books: First German aircraft to fall to British guns and/or first German aircraft to be shot down by any British aircraft - 25 or 26 Sep 1939 (depending on source) when a Dornier 18 flying boat was brought down into the sea by a Sea Skua of 803 Sqn Fleet Air Arm. First enemy attack, and first attack on ships of the Royal Navy - 26 Sep when a Junkers 88 carried out an attack on the Home Fleet in the North Sea during the recovery of HM Submarine Spearfish. First shots in the air war over Britain, and first British pilot to go into action against the Luftwaffe in a Spitfire - Flg Off Pinkerton of 602 Sqn against a photo-recce Heinkel at about 1021hrs on 16 Oct 1939. First air attack on the British Isles - 1435hrs on 16 Oct 1939, when a German bomber dropped two bombs during an attack on two cruisers near the Forth Bridge. First enemy aircraft brought down over Britain - early afternoon of 16 Oct 1939, after the above attack, when two German Junkers 88s or Heinkels (depending on source) were brought down in the Firth of Forth by Spitfires from 602 and 603 Squadrons. First enemy aircraft to crash on British soil - About 1022hrs on 28 Oct 1939, when a photo-recce Heinkel 111 was brought down on a hillside at Kidlaw Hill, near Humbie, East Lothian, after damage by a shell from a ship in the Firth of Forth, and then attack by Spitfires from 602 and 603 Sqns. As this last encounter was the first downing of a German aircraft on British soil, it's likely that this is the one he was guarding. You say you have a photo of him with the rest of the guards, but is the German aircraft in the picture as well? I have several photographs of the "Humbie Heinkel", some with crowds of onlookers, and can send you some to compare with your photo, if you wish. Forrest -- Forrest Anderson, Edinburgh, Scotland. E-mail: forrest@military-researcher.com Website: www.military-researcher.com Forrestdale Research - Military Genealogical Researcher

Hi All: A Death Certificate from a "Service Department's Register" may not have as much information as an ordinary English Death Certificate, and Diane may have to search for a notice of his death in the local papers (Stockton area) which will probably mention his parents, to confirm that the 1944 death is the right one. He is on the Misc. fiche F266 for Army OR (Other Ranks), WWII: Thomas W. PATTERSON Spr RE 14252136 - 1944, vol 10 p 282 The Miscellaneous fiche (c1000+) have Overseas BDM, and also Army BDM in the Army Chaplains and Regimental seris. While the Army Chaplains BDM are overseas, the Regimental births have quite a few in Britain eg Aldershot & Woolwich. NB: no Navy or Air Force equivalents. When I got an English Death Certificate for a 1900 Boer War death, it just had Surname & Initial plus Date & Place of Death. No Age or Parents. This one did not even have a Regimental Number. Yours, John Wilson PS: Scan avaliable of the Certificate for Fox if you email me off-list. It is headed "Casualty Lists of the Natal and South Africa Field Forces 1899-1902, Brabant's Horse, 1st Regiment": Regimental No - blank Rank - Trooper Name - FOX, J Casualty - Killled Place - Vaalkoop Date - 23 Aug 1900 Remarks - blank Issued under the Births, Deaths and Marriages (Special Provisions) Act 1957. The bottom says "Certified to be a true copy of the certified copy of an entry made in a Service Departments Register, Given at the General Register Office ..." etc. with seal of GRO, England. NB: New Zealand WWII (& earlier ie WWI, Boer War) Services personnel records are avaliable to anyone if the serviceman or servicewomen has died. No restrictions to next of kin only (Britain) or death plus 20 years (Canada). > Hi Diane, > Did your search include the GRO WAR DEATHS ARMY OTHER RANKS > (1939 to 1948) index ? > > > Hi All: > > > > I'm new to this list and hope someone can help. > > > > My late dad's brother was born in Stockton in 1922. I was told that he > died in the army. > > > > On the Common Wealth War Graves there is a Thomas William Patterson who > died 24th December 1944, I think that this could possibly be him as he is > the only one who has no next of kin detailed. > > > > However, I have not been able to find a record of his death with St. > Catharine's Index, so therefore I cannot verify it. > > > > I am not the next of kin, there is still a brother and sister alive, we > have no contact and believe that they would not want us to look into it. > > > > Has anyone got any suggestions of where to go. > > > > Diane Patterson > > Teesside > > England > >

The first German aircraft shot down was by a 603 Squadron spitfire over East Lothian after an attack on the Forth Bridge and the ships at anchor at Rosyth dockyard. The second was by 602 Squadron in the same incident being shot down by the famous Archie McKellar. Google 603 squadron and Forth Bridge October 1939 or 1st air raid. Aye Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: Csgen50@aol.com [mailto:Csgen50@aol.com] Sent: 23 July 2006 10:13 To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WORLD WAR II] Yorkshire 1939 Hello everyone, I've joined this list in the hope that I can start to put together my late fathers RAF service record. So I will start with what little I know and then go on in stages at a later date. He joined the RAF in 39 and did his basic training at Catterick in Yorkshire. One of his first duties was to stand guard over the 1st German aircraft shot down in WW2. I have a photo of him with the rest of the guards but unfortunately it doesn't state where or when it was taken. Can anyone help with some details please, I've not had any luck with reference books etc. I will now start looking at some of the other photos and try to put them in some sort of order. Regards, Mick. ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== Please do not send virus warnings to the list. If you have concerns about a virus, contact your list admin or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the subject line. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hello everyone, I've joined this list in the hope that I can start to put together my late fathers RAF service record. So I will start with what little I know and then go on in stages at a later date. He joined the RAF in 39 and did his basic training at Catterick in Yorkshire. One of his first duties was to stand guard over the 1st German aircraft shot down in WW2. I have a photo of him with the rest of the guards but unfortunately it doesn't state where or when it was taken. Can anyone help with some details please, I've not had any luck with reference books etc. I will now start looking at some of the other photos and try to put them in some sort of order. Regards, Mick.

Murray, Reverend George Mosley MURRAY, THE RIGHT REVEREND GEORGE MOSLEY, retired Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of the Central Gulf Coast. Born April 12, 1919, in Baltimore, Maryland. He moved at an early age to Jefferson County, Alabama, where he was educated in public schools. Graduated in 1940 from the University of Alabama with a B.S. Degree in Commerce and Business Administration. Employed by the General Electric Credit Company in North Carolina for two years. Served four years in the U.S. Naval Reserve during World War II, two years of which were served on board the submarine, U.S.S. Pintado, in the Pacific. Graduated from Virginia Theological Seminary, Alexandria, Va. in 1948 with a degree of Master of Divinity. Ordained Priest in the Diocese of Alabama by the Rt. Rev. Charles C.J. Carpenter. Served five years as Episcopal Chaplain at the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa. Elected and consecrated Suffragan Bishop of Alabama in 1953. Elected Bishop Coadjutor of Alabama in 1959. Became the Bishop of Alabama in 1969. Took the lead in organizing the new Diocese of the Central Gulf Coast (South Alabama and Northwest Florida). Became Bishop of the Central Gulf Coast when it was established in 1971. Moved from Birmingham to Mobile to assume direction of the new diocese. Received the Algernon Sydney Sullivan award at the University of Alabama in 1953. Received honorary degrees of Doctor in Divinity from the University of the South, Sewanee, Tennessee, and from Virginia Theological Seminary in 1954. Received honorary degree of Doctor of Laws from the University of Alabama in 1956. Received honorary degree of Doctor of Humane Letters from St. Bernard College, Cullman, Alabama in 1963. Served in the Board on Regents of the University of the South 1959-65 and 1971-77. Elected to the Executive Council of the Episcopal Church, headquartered in New York City in 1964. Served as President of the Fourth Province of the Episcopal Church (Southeastern United States) 1971-74. Elected to the Board of Trustees of the Church Pension Fund 1973-83. Elected Vice President of the House of Bishops 1978-80. Admitted to the Alabama Academy of Honor in 1975. Charter member of Mobile United and served as Chairman. He is preceded in death by his parents, Gerard Archibald Murray and Emma Winston Eareckson Murry, as well as his first wife, Elizabeth Malcolm Murray. Survived by wife, Margaret MacQueen Murray; two sons, George Malcolm Murray, of New York, NY and William Gerard Murray of Annapolis, MD; one daughter, Sara Duncan Murray of Paris, France; three step-children, John C. Rockett, III of Gulf Breeze, FL, Margaret Grace Rockett of Silverhill, AL and James MacQueen Rockett of Spanish Fort, AL and several grandchildren. He donated his body to the Anatomical Board of the State of Alabama for use in medical education and research. In lieu of flowers, it is requested that any memorial gifts be given to Wilmer Hall, the Episcopal Home for Children, 3811 Old Shell Road, Mobile, AL 36608. A memorial service will be held on Saturday, July 22, 2006 at 11:00 a.m. from Christ Church Cathedral in Mobile, AL, with a reception to follow service. The family will receive friends at the church from 10:00 am until service time. Arrangements by WOLFE-BAYVIEW FUNERAL HOME 19698 Greeno Rd, Fairhope, AL. Published in The Birmingham News on 7/18/2006

Disko, Joe DISKO, JOE, age 79, of Birmingham, AL, passed away Saturday, July 15, 2006. Joe was born in Niles, Ohio. He was a veteran of World War II where he served in the Marine Corps in the South Pacific. He played football and graduated from the University of Alabama. Because of Joe, all three of his children played soccer. He was known in the soccer community for being an avid fan of his children and the sport they played, rarely missing a practice or game whether it was local or hundreds of miles away. He is survived by his wife, Martha of Birmingham, AL; children, Michael, Jeffrey, and Amy of Birmingham, AL; son, Jordan Disko (Debra) of Beaverton, OR; sisters, Irma Sequeglia of Niles, OH and Mary Benyei of Warren, OH; and brother, Leslie Disko, formerly of San Jose, CA. He was preceded in death by his parents, Helen and John Disko, and brothers, John, Michael and George Disko. Visitation will be Tuesday, July 18, 2006 from 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. at Southern Heritage Funeral Home on Hwy. 119. Funeral services will be held Wednesday, July 19, 2006 at 11:00 a.m. at Southern Heritage Chapel with Jim Clifford of Valley Christian Church officiating. Published in The Birmingham News on 7/18/2006.

Carnes, Donald J. CARNES, DONALD J., 78, of Trussville, died of a sudden illness on Saturday, July 15, 2006. He was born in Muncie, Indiana and attended school in Huntington, Indiana. He served in the U.S. Army from 1946 through 1948, and later served in the Korean conflict from 1950-1952. He is survived by his wife, Joanne, of 29 years, four children, Pamela O'Bert (Ken) of Massachusetts, Donald Carnes, Jr. (Patti) of Knoxville, Tennessee, Mark Carnes (Cathy) of Huntington, Indiana and Kevin Carnes (Susan) of Nashville, Tennessee, his stepchildren Dianne Warner (Jan) of Connecticut and Dwight Percy (Teresa) of Birmingham. Other survivors include his 12 grandchildren and five step-grandchildren. He enjoyed spending time with his family and loved sports, particularly golf, Notre Dame football and basketball. A memorial service will be held at St. Stephen's Episcopal Church on Thursday, July 20 at 2:00 p.m., with a reception for friends and family afterward. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to St. Stephen's Church, 3775 Crosshaven Drive, Birmingham, Alabama 35223. Published in The Birmingham News on 7/18/2006.

http://www.alabamaheritage.com/ In the latest issue of Alabama Heritage Magazine, there is a story of A Gold Star Pilgramage to Flanders Fields". By J. Darren Peterson Photo: William Cataloe Barlow is the only Alabama soldier buried at Flanders Field (Photo courtesy Lisa Campbell) "In Flanders fields, the poppies blow Between the crosses, row on row." Lt. Col. John McCrae, M.D.

http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel/standard-form-180.html This is the NARA site, you can go here and go to ahere it says Form SF180, you can either fill it out on-line and e-mail it, but uf you do this, then you still have to print out one and sign it so they will have a signature - OR you can print out the SF180 - it has all the instructions as to where to send for what service - and mail it to St Louis or whereever it says -or go to google and put in SF 180 and you will find many links that will have the form - or if you can't get this done, send me your mailing address and I will send you a form SF180 via snail mail - BE SURE it takes several months to get back any information, if they says it is lost, send it in again, do not give up, if you do not know the answer to any question, do not let this keep you from sending in the form, be sure to keep you a copy - if you do not know where he is buried, write me off list and I will tell you how to get that info also. delilah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcia Barnes" <mgbarnes@hotmail.com> To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] medical records | Could you tell me where to get that form? I did one time request his | military records but they did not have copies of the files because of a fire | but I know that my father was in the veteran's hospital in Louisville and | they had his file there and this was after the fire was suppose to have | occurred. Not familiar with the form if you could just point me in the right | direction I appreciate it. Marcia | | | >From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> | >Reply-To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com | >To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com | >Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] medical records | >Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 21:06:58 -0400 | >MIME-Version: 1.0 | >X-Originating-IP: 4.152.129.5 | >Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.27.41]) by | >bay0-mc5-f5.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444); Mon, 17 | >Jul 2006 18:07:11 -0700 | >Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id | >k6I174Qa011690;Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:07:04 -0600 | >X-Message-Info: LsUYwwHHNt3wer/YhS+CNDU1Nu4z8qiC3YU56vOdJ6E= | >Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:07:04 -0600 | >X-Original-Sender: diamond6468@mindspring.com Mon Jul 17 19:07:04 2006 | >DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; | >d=mindspring.com; | >b=W7uU2V/Q5/33238IutcVjvEqH1nZi47i6ON15LbINVSN8bD/j34dxkN2J2aEoah/; | >h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; | >Old-To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> | >References: <BAY103-F20DBFF97E4500291C308A0CC620@phx.gbl> | ><027301c6aa05$d7167750$6601a8c0@Zippy> | >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal | >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 | >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 | >X-ELNK-Trace: | >8d5ec3e91c6797dbec6da43d4161a237416dc04816f3191c1c092be4542983fbcc2484e6917e7750c4c275f7f43f4158350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c | >X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 | >Resent-Message-ID: <jDOplD.A.51C.4QDvEB@lists5.rootsweb.com> | >Resent-From: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com | >X-Mailing-List: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/10999 | >X-Loop: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com | >Precedence: list | >Resent-Sender: WORLDWAR2-L-request@rootsweb.com | >Return-Path: WORLDWAR2-L-request@rootsweb.com | >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2006 01:07:12.0130 (UTC) | >FILETIME=[8009F620:01C6AA06] | > | >I am not sure that law applies to this situation, I believe that the V.A. | >would have his records the same as his military records - fill out the | >SF180 | >and send it in, it has a place for medical records | >delilah | >----- Original Message ----- | >From: "BJ Whitsitt" <folkie@insightbb.com> | >To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> | >Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:02 PM | >Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] medical records | > | > | >| Marcia, | >| The new HIPAA laws protect the medical records of the dead just as | >those | >of the living are protected. You can get your father's medical records if | >you can prove that you're the executor of his estate, or if you have the | >written permission and signature of the person who is the executor. | >| | >| Barbara | >| ----- Original Message ----- | >| From: Marcia Barnes | >| To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com | >| Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 5:46 PM | >| Subject: [WORLD WAR II] medical records | >| | >| | >| My father was in world war II. He wa in a military hospital for 16 | >months | >of | >| treatment of typhoid and malaria. He died two years ago, his last | >medical | >| record was at Veterans In Louisville, Kentucky. Do they destroy those | >| records or would they give them to me? Does any one have any idea who I | >| would contact ? Would the hospital release them? Or would another office | >be | >| responsible for that? Marcia Barnes | >| | >| | >| | >| ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== | >| We are an international list! 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Could you tell me where to get that form? I did one time request his military records but they did not have copies of the files because of a fire but I know that my father was in the veteran's hospital in Louisville and they had his file there and this was after the fire was suppose to have occurred. Not familiar with the form if you could just point me in the right direction I appreciate it. Marcia >From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> >Reply-To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com >To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] medical records >Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 21:06:58 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Originating-IP: 4.152.129.5 >Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.27.41]) by >bay0-mc5-f5.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444); Mon, 17 >Jul 2006 18:07:11 -0700 >Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id >k6I174Qa011690;Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:07:04 -0600 >X-Message-Info: LsUYwwHHNt3wer/YhS+CNDU1Nu4z8qiC3YU56vOdJ6E= >Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:07:04 -0600 >X-Original-Sender: diamond6468@mindspring.com Mon Jul 17 19:07:04 2006 >DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; >d=mindspring.com; >b=W7uU2V/Q5/33238IutcVjvEqH1nZi47i6ON15LbINVSN8bD/j34dxkN2J2aEoah/; >h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; >Old-To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> >References: <BAY103-F20DBFF97E4500291C308A0CC620@phx.gbl> ><027301c6aa05$d7167750$6601a8c0@Zippy> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 >X-ELNK-Trace: >8d5ec3e91c6797dbec6da43d4161a237416dc04816f3191c1c092be4542983fbcc2484e6917e7750c4c275f7f43f4158350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c >X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 >Resent-Message-ID: <jDOplD.A.51C.4QDvEB@lists5.rootsweb.com> >Resent-From: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/10999 >X-Loop: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: WORLDWAR2-L-request@rootsweb.com >Return-Path: WORLDWAR2-L-request@rootsweb.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2006 01:07:12.0130 (UTC) >FILETIME=[8009F620:01C6AA06] > >I am not sure that law applies to this situation, I believe that the V.A. >would have his records the same as his military records - fill out the >SF180 >and send it in, it has a place for medical records >delilah >----- Original Message ----- >From: "BJ Whitsitt" <folkie@insightbb.com> >To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:02 PM >Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] medical records > > >| Marcia, >| The new HIPAA laws protect the medical records of the dead just as >those >of the living are protected. You can get your father's medical records if >you can prove that you're the executor of his estate, or if you have the >written permission and signature of the person who is the executor. >| >| Barbara >| ----- Original Message ----- >| From: Marcia Barnes >| To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com >| Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 5:46 PM >| Subject: [WORLD WAR II] medical records >| >| >| My father was in world war II. He wa in a military hospital for 16 >months >of >| treatment of typhoid and malaria. He died two years ago, his last >medical >| record was at Veterans In Louisville, Kentucky. Do they destroy those >| records or would they give them to me? Does any one have any idea who I >| would contact ? Would the hospital release them? Or would another office >be >| responsible for that? Marcia Barnes >| >| >| >| ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== >| We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country >your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give >dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For >example: >4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. >| >| ============================== >| Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >| Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >| >| >| ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== >| >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html >| This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, >subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. >Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what >country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give >dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For >example: >4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. >| >| ============================== >| Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >| last 12 months. 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Hi Pamela: This New Zealand website covers POWs including mention of camps in Greece & Crete: http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/war/pows-introduction John Wilson Subject: Prisoners of War Crete > Hello List, > I would like to find out where the infantry who fought on Crete were > kept as prisoners of war and the conditions of the camp. > Does anyone know where I could find this information on the net. > > Regards, Pamela. >

(http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/HAMILTON-005.htm) Try this one....It worked for me though the other ones did not. DarylAnnsDesk@aol.com wrote: This link did not work. In a message dated 7/17/2006 8:23:24 PM Mountain Daylight Time, Drover54@aol.com writes: After searching for several (25) years for my Uncles Casualty report and being told it was non existent. Someone posted this site _http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/HAMILTON-005.htm_ (http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/HAMILTON-005.htm) I filled out the form sent it in without much hope. In less than 30 days I have not only his Casualty Report but his health records and personal letters between my grandmother and the War Department. He was killed in 1944 and I want to thank the person that posted this site. Bless you, Jane ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For example: 4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

My father was in world war II. He wa in a military hospital for 16 months of treatment of typhoid and malaria. He died two years ago, his last medical record was at Veterans In Louisville, Kentucky. Do they destroy those records or would they give them to me? Does any one have any idea who I would contact ? Would the hospital release them? Or would another office be responsible for that? Marcia Barnes

This link did not work. In a message dated 7/17/2006 8:23:24 PM Mountain Daylight Time, Drover54@aol.com writes: After searching for several (25) years for my Uncles Casualty report and being told it was non existent. Someone posted this site _http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/HAMILTON-005.htm_ (http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/HAMILTON-005.htm) I filled out the form sent it in without much hope. In less than 30 days I have not only his Casualty Report but his health records and personal letters between my grandmother and the War Department. He was killed in 1944 and I want to thank the person that posted this site. Bless you, Jane

Good evening list, I just want to say thank you to all of you who have helped me in researching my Uncle Gerald who was killed in WWII. Because of all of your wonderful information, I will now be receiving all of his records as well as the "Report of Casualty Letter" that would have been given to my grandmother at the time he was listed as MIA. I spent 3 hours on the phone today with the VA, but, I have walked away with the knowledge that I will be receiving all of his records. You have all been a great help and the folks with the VA are wonderful. Just an additional FYI.... We can also have an additional Memorial at the National Cemitery of our choice. He is currently Memorialized in North Africa, but they will also put a Memorial marker at the Riverside National Cemetery, at no cost to the family. Thank you all once again, Barbara Ann Phillips bphil1@earthlink.net

After searching for several (25) years for my Uncles Casualty report and being told it was non existent. Someone posted this site _http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/HAMILTON-005.htm_ (http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/HAMILTON-005.htm) I filled out the form sent it in without much hope. In less than 30 days I have not only his Casualty Report but his health records and personal letters between my grandmother and the War Department. He was killed in 1944 and I want to thank the person that posted this site. Bless you, Jane _http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/HAMILTON-005.htm_ (http://www.geocities.com/lks_friday/HAMILTON-005.htm)

Almost all military forms are available at www.VA.org Barbara Ann Phillips bphil1@earthlink.net > [Original Message] > From: Marcia Barnes <mgbarnes@hotmail.com> > To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 7/17/2006 6:38:06 PM > Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] medical records > > Could you tell me where to get that form? I did one time request his > military records but they did not have copies of the files because of a fire > but I know that my father was in the veteran's hospital in Louisville and > they had his file there and this was after the fire was suppose to have > occurred. Not familiar with the form if you could just point me in the right > direction I appreciate it. Marcia > > > >From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> > >Reply-To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com > >To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] medical records > >Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 21:06:58 -0400 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >X-Originating-IP: 4.152.129.5 > >Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.27.41]) by > >bay0-mc5-f5.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444); Mon, 17 > >Jul 2006 18:07:11 -0700 > >Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id > >k6I174Qa011690;Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:07:04 -0600 > >X-Message-Info: LsUYwwHHNt3wer/YhS+CNDU1Nu4z8qiC3YU56vOdJ6E= > >Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:07:04 -0600 > >X-Original-Sender: diamond6468@mindspring.com Mon Jul 17 19:07:04 2006 > >DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; > >d=mindspring.com; > >b=W7uU2V/Q5/33238IutcVjvEqH1nZi47i6ON15LbINVSN8bD/j34dxkN2J2aEoah/; > >h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content- Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEO LE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; > >Old-To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > >References: <BAY103-F20DBFF97E4500291C308A0CC620@phx.gbl> > ><027301c6aa05$d7167750$6601a8c0@Zippy> > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 > >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 > >X-ELNK-Trace: > >8d5ec3e91c6797dbec6da43d4161a237416dc04816f3191c1c092be4542983fbcc2484e6917 e7750c4c275f7f43f4158350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c > >X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 > >Resent-Message-ID: <jDOplD.A.51C.4QDvEB@lists5.rootsweb.com> > >Resent-From: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com > >X-Mailing-List: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/10999 > >X-Loop: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com > >Precedence: list > >Resent-Sender: WORLDWAR2-L-request@rootsweb.com > >Return-Path: WORLDWAR2-L-request@rootsweb.com > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2006 01:07:12.0130 (UTC) > >FILETIME=[8009F620:01C6AA06] > > > >I am not sure that law applies to this situation, I believe that the V.A. > >would have his records the same as his military records - fill out the > >SF180 > >and send it in, it has a place for medical records > >delilah > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "BJ Whitsitt" <folkie@insightbb.com> > >To: <WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:02 PM > >Subject: Re: [WORLD WAR II] medical records > > > > > >| Marcia, > >| The new HIPAA laws protect the medical records of the dead just as > >those > >of the living are protected. You can get your father's medical records if > >you can prove that you're the executor of his estate, or if you have the > >written permission and signature of the person who is the executor. > >| > >| Barbara > >| ----- Original Message ----- > >| From: Marcia Barnes > >| To: WORLDWAR2-L@rootsweb.com > >| Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 5:46 PM > >| Subject: [WORLD WAR II] medical records > >| > >| > >| My father was in world war II. He wa in a military hospital for 16 > >months > >of > >| treatment of typhoid and malaria. He died two years ago, his last > >medical > >| record was at Veterans In Louisville, Kentucky. Do they destroy those > >| records or would they give them to me? Does any one have any idea who I > >| would contact ? Would the hospital release them? Or would another office > >be > >| responsible for that? Marcia Barnes > >| > >| > >| > >| ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > >| We are an international list! Please, always tell the list what country > >your ancestor is from. This helps all of us, especially you! If you give > >dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. For > >example: > >4 Nov 1944 or Nov 4, 1944. > >| > >| ============================== > >| Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > >| Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > >http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >| > >| > >| ==== WORLDWAR2 Mailing List ==== > >| > >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html > >| This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > >subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. We are an international list. > >Please remember to tell us what country your ancestor was from and what > >country you are in now if different. This helps us help you. If you give > >dates please help us understand the date you are referring to. 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