Hello Elizabeth, welcome to a helpful list. A bit of advice when asking for help. You don't give a name, which country he served for, why you think it was the army, without basic information you might find responses few and far between. The more info. you give, the more chances you have that someone out there might be able to help you. Good luck, Mick.

We have had mail this week. Keep an eye on the archives if things look slower than usual for you. The bad thing is that I no longer know if someone is bouncing until I get their removal notice. The link that does not work is in the welcome email that people receive when they sign up for the list. When I wrote the email below I did go to the list tool pages and add the list archives link to our list footer so we have easy access to it. The server we are on has had problems though. We have had days of messages being bounced back to senders and mail delays of hours. Some of this has to do with the way the mail is being delivered. It is not unusual for me to see answers to posts and not see the question for several hours. I'm sure things will get better as RootsWeb has time to tweak and twist things a bit. This is really a grin and bear it time as RootsWeb goes through it's growing pains. It's not really a headache, but the new server is totally different than admins are used to and I think most of us have found ourselves confused at some point in this trying to figure out what we are doing.:-) I think that list members on the various lists have been very patient with us as we learn the new system and for that I am grateful. Margy list admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "logan" <afineday@ontariointernet.com> To: <worldwar2@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [WORLDWAR2] new to list----where to find records? > Is that why I haven't received anything for the last five days? > I'm not new to the list - I joined a long time ago. > What a headache this must be for you!!! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mbousman" <mbousman7@cox.net> > To: <worldwar2@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:26 PM > Subject: Re: [WORLDWAR2] new to list----where to find records? > > >> The welcome links to all the lists archives are not working. It will be >> fixed in time. Under the new server I can't fix it, RootsWeb has to. >> Here is the correct link: >> >> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html >> >> >> Margy >> list admin >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > [I tried the link in the welcome email to > try >> to get >> > to the list archives, but the link isn't working.] >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ********************* >> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WORLDWAR2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > ********************* > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WORLDWAR2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Is that why I haven't received anything for the last five days? I'm not new to the list - I joined a long time ago. What a headache this must be for you!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "mbousman" <mbousman7@cox.net> To: <worldwar2@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [WORLDWAR2] new to list----where to find records? > The welcome links to all the lists archives are not working. It will be > fixed in time. Under the new server I can't fix it, RootsWeb has to. > Here is the correct link: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html > > > Margy > list admin > > ----- Original Message ----- > [I tried the link in the welcome email to try > to get > > to the list archives, but the link isn't working.] > > > > > > > > ********************* > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Military:_20th_Century/WORLDWAR2.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WORLDWAR2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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I AM STILL LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ABOUT MY FATHER'S SERVICE DURING WW2.....HIS B-17 STINKY BELLY LANDED IN THE SAHARA DESERT ABOUT JANUARY13 OF 1942 WHILE ON A MISSION TO TAKE A GENERAL TO THE CASABLANCA CONFERENCE. I HAVE PICTURES OF THE PLANE AND CREW IN FRONT OF THE PLANE. EVERYONE SURVIVED THE CRASH. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW LONG THEY WAITED TO BE RESCUED AND HOW THEY WERE RESCUED .......WHAT HAPPENED TO CAUSE THE CRASH. KATHIE DENNIS , DAUGHTER OF JIM MCMEEKAN ,TAIL GUNNER 513TH

Elizabeth, for Army Personnel Records for those discharged, deceased or retired between 11/01/1912 and 10/15/1992 for Enlisted Personnel or 07/01/1917 and 10/15/1992 for Officers write to: National Personnel Records Center (Military Personnel Records) 9700 Page Avenue St. Louis, MO 63132-5100 I suggest that you visit http://www.archives.gov This will tell you what information to include with your request plus a wealth of other information which my be helpful. There was a fire which destroyed many of the WW II Records, but you still may be able to receive something. Ellis Hosbach Bethel Park,PA

Hello. What is his name and date of birth ? Do you have his servicenumber? sojoroki@home.nl http://members.home.nl/sojoroki/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "ewintr" <ewintr@yahoo.com> To: <WORLDWAR2@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 4:09 AM Subject: [WORLDWAR2] new to list----where to find records? > Hello, > > I just joined this list hoping to find some help. I > have not done much military research and know very > little about it. But now my husband would like to find > out about his father's military service. There seems > to be some differences of opinion in the family as to > where he served and with what group(?). They all agree > that he was in the Army in WWII. > > Several years ago someone had tried to send for his > service records but was told they probably were > destroyed in a fire. > > Can anyone tell me how I can find out where he served > and what group of the Army he was in during WWII? > > Thank you for any help, > Elizabeth > [I tried the link in the welcome email to try to get > to the list archives, but the link isn't working.] > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WORLDWAR2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I just joined this list hoping to find some help. I have not done much military research and know very little about it. But now my husband would like to find out about his father's military service. There seems to be some differences of opinion in the family as to where he served and with what group(?). They all agree that he was in the Army in WWII. Several years ago someone had tried to send for his service records but was told they probably were destroyed in a fire. Can anyone tell me how I can find out where he served and what group of the Army he was in during WWII? Thank you for any help, Elizabeth [I tried the link in the welcome email to try to get to the list archives, but the link isn't working.] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Good afternoon, More useful stuff for researchers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:British_Army_regiments Patrick Holland. Perth, Western Australia

Hiya Nelson, thankyou for your input, may I ask how I would go about obtaining granddad's service record, I have been to Kew and searched through the service records there because Josephs dad also named Joseph Mansfield DRAYCOTT served in the 1st WW it says on his medal card he was in the Liverpool R and the Lab Corps. Also I know there is a site calle the Wardrobe would it be worth me e-mailing someone there and asking if they know of any war diaries that may be of use to me???? Once again thankyou for your help. Kaz --------------------------------- Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail . "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal

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Emily, Johnnie's records (not the 312th ), but his personal records are as follows: Living in Cherokee County, Alabama prior to enlistment Serial Number 07004957 DOB-1/17/1920 Army Air Corps Service from 12/30/1939 to 06/24/1945 and again later U.S. Air Force from 08/06/1947 to 04/30/1963 12/30/39 Enlisted Ft. Benning, Ga. Basic Training at Maxwell Field, Alabama 02/15/1940 Assigned to 26th Air Base Squadron also at Maxwell Field 08/05/1940 to 08/30/1940 Attached to 93rd Air School Squadron, Maxwell Field 08/31/1940 to 09/26/1940 Attached to 5th Air School Squadron, Maxwell Field 10/12/1940 to 11/25/1940 (Gap in Dates on records) Attached to 12th Air School Squadron,Maxwell Field 12/02/1940 to 02/07/1942 (Gap In Dates on records) Assigned to HQ,HQ Squadron 36th Air Base Squadron, Maxwell Field 02/08/1942 Assigned to 312th Air Service Group at Jackson Army Airbase, MS (Recently known as Hawkins Field,3 miles NW of Jackson) 02/28/1942 Moved with 312th to CAAB, S.C. (Could be Charleston,Columbia,Congaree, or Coronaca Army Air Base-I believe it's probably Columbia, but verify with records of the 312th) 12/29/1942 Moved with 312th to Lakeland Army Air Field, Lakeland, FL. 04/05/1943 Movement overseas to Army Station #167 Ridgewell, Essex, England,312th performing duties with 381st Bomb Group *Individual Assignments per morning reports end here 312th Air Service Group Locations after Station #167 07/03/1943 Departed Station #167 01/1944 to 04/1944 Unit location-Station #454 Warmwell,Dorset, England Unknown Date-Movement to Station #551 Lymington,Hampshire, England 06/1944 Departed Station #551 to France Unknown Date-Location, Strip 10A, Carentan, France 08/1944 Unit Location-Strip A-47,Orly, France 09/1944 Various Locations, Loan,Crepy,St. Orzier, France 11/1944 Location Ligny En Barrois, France 12/1944 Location Nancy, France @ 04/1945 Loaction St. Nicholas Du Port, France @ 05/1945 LOcation Bad Mergentheim, Germany and Stromberg, Germany @11/30/1945 Unit Deactivation I have a list of all medals and awards earned, and training dates/places for his years after the war, up to retirement date 04/30/1963. If you want specific unit information, remember that detailed unit histories do not exist for all units but approx. 303 frames on microfilm containing information for the 312th overseas do exist. I have the order form to send to: ATTN:Microfilm Order AFHRA/RSA 600 Chennault Circle Maxwell AFB, AL. 36112-6424 Reference:IRISREF-BO839 Reel-2026 Frames 1269-1572 I took on this for you some time ago just to see what I could dig up. I will gladly send all information to you. You can e-mail me for the address in which you want it sent. _snowfrog61@yahoo.com_ (mailto:snowfrog61@yahoo.com) Good Luck, Rick

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While the book shows only combat squadrons, I did some checking and the 312th Service Group Hq may have arrived in Scotland, Firth of Clyde last of May or the first few days of June to travel by train to England to AAF Station #167 at Ridgewell, England. are any of these names familiar? they were stationed with a Medical Detachment of the 381st Bomb Group but were transferred to the 4th Wing in July. will do some more checking and let you know. 312th Service Group HQ: * Sgt Donald Lockwood * Cpl Milton Patterson * T/5 Clarence Harman * Pfc Arthur Reder * Pfc Edward Standel * Pfc William Sharitz * Pvt Brian Marlovich * Pvt Martin Prendergast * Pvt Joe Coleman when I bought the book I opened it at random and one of the squadrons listed on the page had been stationed in Lakeland, Fl. I thought that was great as I live in Lakeland. If you live near we could meet somewhere and you can look at the book, email me off list if you would like to do this. Sherry

Been trying for the longest to find about what happened to the Hq&Hq Sq 312 Service Group.They left Lakeland Fl went to England. thank you for any help you can give Emily Alvarez.

You should order his service records. They would probably have details as to his death. The Royal Berkshire Regiment War Diaries should also have some reports on his death. He might not be mentioned by name but the incident would be. Something as simple as. . . "Report of Lt. Johnston C Company 12/06/44 One driver killed when lorry overturned on steep mountain road. Suspected brake failure Body recovered." Probably that would be about it. :-(( You can read what a typical "Regimental War Diary" would be like here. http://www.collectionscanada.ca/02/020152_e.html Nelson Denton > Hiya everyone, my Granddad died during WW2 in Africa, 12th June 1944, his > name was Joseph Mansfield DRAYCOTT. I always thought he died in action but > I recieved his death cert a while ago and it states that he was killed in > a car accident. > I was wondering, would there have been an inquest? If so would I be able > to find out the details of the inquest? and where would I go about finding > the details? > Thanks in advance for any information. > Kind regards, Karen

Hello, Surely no matter what for about 100 years there Must have always been some sort of INQUEST inquiry as to how someone died If there was any serious suspicion it was slightly unusual. Otherwise how did we find out that some had committed murder etc in so called active service zones. I would have thought that an inquiry at any level could be deemed to be some form of inquest Even if only in the form of REPORT writings. I remember going to (the Kyrenia area in 1974 northern Cyprus where a BBC journalist Had been killed thought by Turkish fire) to pick his remains up but I was told an inquest was on the cards Just to make sure he had not been killed by any other means. It is surely a form of inquiry which pieces together a story about deaths especially in Relation to the potential awarding of bravery awards. The story of 'courage under fire' although a fictional one must suggest that death in combat Is not always just taken for granted. Its good 'ere i'n it? Allen Hale Facts Don't Lie But We Rarely Accept The Inconvenient Ones. (anon unless anyone can enlighten) !-----Original Message----- !From: worldwar2-bounces@rootsweb.com ![mailto:worldwar2-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bubbles !Sent: 21 September 2006 04:01 !To: worldwar2@rootsweb.com !Subject: Re: [WORLDWAR2] possible inquest ! ! !I'm sure, in recent times, inquests have been held in UK in to !the untimely !deaths of UK citizens abroad. !Bubbles from Robin Hood Country !----- Original Message ----- !From: "James Flemington" <jim@flemington.freeserve.co.uk> !To: <worldwar2@rootsweb.com> !Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:48 PM !Subject: Re: [WORLDWAR2] possible inquest ! ! !> Karen, !> !> As I understand it at that time there would have been no inquest as !> overseas !> casualties were buried overseas. About twenty years ago, my !memory is !> hazy, !> an inquest was deemed to be necessary if a body was returned !to the UK for !> burial. !> !> Jim !> !> -----Original Message----- !> From: worldwar2-bounces@rootsweb.com !> [mailto:worldwar2-bounces@rootsweb.com] !> On Behalf Of kaz campling !> Sent: 20 September 2006 09:54 !> To: WORLDWAR2@rootsweb.com !> Subject: [WORLDWAR2] possible inquest !> !> Hiya everyone, my Granddad died during WW2 in Africa, 12th !June 1944, !> his name was Joseph Mansfield DRAYCOTT. I always thought he died in !> action but I recieved his death cert a while ago and it !states that he !> was killed in a car accident. !> I was wondering, would there have been an inquest? If so !would I be able !> to find out the details of the inquest? and where would I go !about finding !> the details? !> Thanks in advance for any information. !> Kind regards, Karen !> !> !> --------------------------------- !> To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new !> Yahoo! !> Security Centre. !> !> ------------------------------- !> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to !> WORLDWAR2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' !without the !> quotes in the subject and the body of the message !> !> !> !> ------------------------------- !> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to !> WORLDWAR2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' !without the !> quotes in the subject and the body of the message !> ! ! ! !------------------------------- !To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to !WORLDWAR2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' !without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message !

I'm sure, in recent times, inquests have been held in UK in to the untimely deaths of UK citizens abroad. Bubbles from Robin Hood Country ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Flemington" <jim@flemington.freeserve.co.uk> To: <worldwar2@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [WORLDWAR2] possible inquest > Karen, > > As I understand it at that time there would have been no inquest as > overseas > casualties were buried overseas. About twenty years ago, my memory is > hazy, > an inquest was deemed to be necessary if a body was returned to the UK for > burial. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: worldwar2-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:worldwar2-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of kaz campling > Sent: 20 September 2006 09:54 > To: WORLDWAR2@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WORLDWAR2] possible inquest > > Hiya everyone, my Granddad died during WW2 in Africa, 12th June 1944, his > name was Joseph Mansfield DRAYCOTT. I always thought he died in action but > I > recieved his death cert a while ago and it states that he was killed in a > car accident. > I was wondering, would there have been an inquest? If so would I be able > to find out the details of the inquest? and where would I go about finding > the details? > Thanks in advance for any information. > Kind regards, Karen > > > --------------------------------- > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new > Yahoo! > Security Centre. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WORLDWAR2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WORLDWAR2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Karen, As I understand it at that time there would have been no inquest as overseas casualties were buried overseas. About twenty years ago, my memory is hazy, an inquest was deemed to be necessary if a body was returned to the UK for burial. Jim -----Original Message----- From: worldwar2-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:worldwar2-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of kaz campling Sent: 20 September 2006 09:54 To: WORLDWAR2@rootsweb.com Subject: [WORLDWAR2] possible inquest Hiya everyone, my Granddad died during WW2 in Africa, 12th June 1944, his name was Joseph Mansfield DRAYCOTT. I always thought he died in action but I recieved his death cert a while ago and it states that he was killed in a car accident. I was wondering, would there have been an inquest? If so would I be able to find out the details of the inquest? and where would I go about finding the details? Thanks in advance for any information. Kind regards, Karen --------------------------------- To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WORLDWAR2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message