To interested Woolsey researchers: Here are over 30 names of individuals with the first name of Woolsey. These have been identified (more or less). WOOLSEY FIRST NAMES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED Aspinwall, Woolsey 1870 of New York Baldwin, Woolsey Carey, Woolsey 1789 of Virginia Carmalt, Woolsey 1915 of New York Cronkhite, Woolsey 1847 of New York Davis, Woolsey 1888 New York to Nebraska Dusenbury, Woolsey 1745 of New York Godlove, Woolsey 1910 of Arkansas Griggs, Woolsey Abt 1827 of New York Hathaway, Woolsey 1741 Delaware to North Carolina Hubble, Woolsey 1890 of Kentucky Jackson, Woolsey 1823 of Connecticut Johnson, Woolsey, M.D. 1823 of New York Johnson, Woolsey 1842 of New York Knapp, Woolsey 1871 of New York Miley, Woolsey 1837 of New York Mills, Woolsey 1762 of New York Noble, Woolsey 1814 of Indiana Ostrander, Woolsey 1903 of Kentucky Palmer, Woolsey 1800 of Pennsylvania Perrine, Woolsey 1818 of New Jersey Pickrell, Wolsey 1873 of Illinois Pride, Woolsey 1766 of Indiana Pride, Woolsey 1793 of Indiana Reed, Woolsey 1887 of Mississippi Rowsey, Woolsey 1912 of Missouri Scott, Woolsey 1740 of Connecticut Shaver, Woolsey 1841 of New York Shaw, Woolsey 1818 of New York Shelmandine, Woolsey 1812 of New York Simmons, Woolsey 1791 of New York That makes over 70 individuals with first name Woolsey. In addition I have 114 names of individuals with the middle name of Woolsey, which includes some women. Sincerely, Wilford W. Whitaker

To Heather E. Blair & interested Woolsey researchers: I thought someone would respond before now because we have quite a few researchers who descend from the Greene Co, TN Woolseys. Your George W. Woolsey is from a family of these Greene Co, TN, that need a lot of work yet. I have a copy of the will of Israel Woolsey, blacksmith, in which he mentions his son Andrew Woolsey. >From the 1850 census Greene Co, TN Andrew Woolsey has a wife Elizabeth L. with Jane, 8, & Alexander, 6, Woolsey. (George W. Woolsey was born in 1851 and should be in the 1860 census but does not appear with Andrew's family as below): In the 1860 Census of Mercer Co, MO Andrew has a wife Louisa (could that be Elizabeth Louisa?) with J. G. 18 f and A. N. 16 m. (Robert M. Woolsey, in his fine book THE WOOLSEY FAMILY states that Andrew md Elizabeth ____ and had Jane and Alexander.} In the 1870 Census of Lawrence Co, MO. Dr. Andrew & wife Louisa has a male George W. Woolsey 19 m, living with them. We need to find where George W. Woolsey was in the 1860 census. I don't know why George W. Woolsey does not appear with Andrew in the 1860 census. Well, you are in the right "church", we just don't know what "pew" to put George W. in. Now there was a general migration of many of the Greene County Woolseys into Missouri, but they didn't all go to the same place, nor did they leave at the same time. But most of the Woolseys in Missouri Census records are from Tennessee and especially from Greene Co., TN. That's a whole 'nother subject. Sincerely, Wilford W. Whitaker ----- Original Message ----- From: "heather e blair" <h431@midway.uchicago.edu> To: <WOOLSEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:00 AM Subject: George Woolsey(1851-1906) Barry/Lawrence Co., MO > Dear Woolseys, > My great-great grandfather was George Woolsey who died in Pierce City, > Lawrence County, Missouri in 1906. According to the 1880 and 1900 census, > he was born in September 1851 in Tennesee. He lived in Monett, Barry > County, Missouri on the 1900 census. His wife was Sarah Hand (1852-1922). > > The 1870 Pierce City, Lawrence County census has a Dr. Andrew Woolsey as > head of household, and a George Woolsey (age 19 and in school) living in > this household. > > I did a query on ancestry.com, and found an Andrew Woolsey in Greene > county, TN on the 1850 census. A newpaper abstract from Missouri mentions > that Dr. Andrew Woolsey, formerly of Pierce City has died in St. Louis in > 1897. > > I'm wondering whether Andrew is the father of George. Would anybody have > any information on the Woolsey family in Greene County that would include > Andrew and George, or describe a migration from Tennessee to Missouri? > > Thanks! > - Heather > > >

To Valerie & interested Woolsey researchers: Thank you for responding so quickly. I'll answer as follows: 1. Benjamin Woolsey (1725-1795) b Bedford, Westchester, New York, d , Ulster Co, NY. (wife Margarite Teller) s/o Richard Woolsey & Sarah Fowler. 2. The only Selleck I have is Nancy Selleck who md 1799 Isaac Hoyt, of Stamford, CT. 3. There are two sisters, d/o Gilbert Woolsey & Rhoda Hoyt, of Stamford, CT who fit the time frame to be a mother of J. Woolsey Selleck (if they md a Selleck?). Lavina Woolsey b abt 1786, bp 1796 in Stamford, CT Sally Woolsey b abt 1788, bp 1796 in Stamford, CT Gilbert Woolsey is the s/o John Woolsey & Sarah Woolsey. 4. In my database, I have 97 Woolseys who were born, lived, or died in Connecticut, including two black families in Litchfield Co, CT. 5. The Woolseys in CT are generally from 4 categories: a. from a family of John Woolsey & Sarah Woolsey from Flatbush (Brooklyn) through son Gilbert Woolsey who settled in Stamford, CT. The John Woolsey who was called "The Sweet Hollow Giant" descends from this group. b. from the family of Theodore Dwight Woolsey, who descends from the Rev. Benjamin Woolsey of Dosoris. These were highly educated, refined and interesting people. They lived in New Haven (Pres. of Yale) c. Sons and daus of Rev. Benj. Woolsey, i. e. Abigail Woolsey who md Rev. Noah Welles, lived in Stamford. Also Benjamin Woolsey, Jr. and Benjamin Muirson Woolsey, etc. d. miscellaneous other Woolseys, including the two black families from Litchfield, above. I hope this answers some of your questions. I would be especially interested in any Selleck connection from Stamford or Connecticut. Thank you. Sincerely, Wilford W. Whitaker ----- Original Message ----- From: <BoatKitten@aol.com> To: <WOOLSEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 9:19 PM Subject: Re: Individuals with first name Woolsey, etc. > In a message dated 11/2/00 3:28:58 PM Central Standard Time, mwdiet@home.com > writes: > > << Selleck, J. Woolsey Dr. (1887-88) @ Stamford, CT. >> > > I am related to both Woolsey (Benjamin & Margarite Teller WOOLSEY) AND > Selleck family (Nathaniel SELLECKs son Peter b 1729 and wife Martha Whiting > SELLECK) of Stamford CT. > > I'd be interested in learning which WOOLSEY's were in CT? My Selleck line > was in Fairfield CT., but they didn't meet up with the WOOLSEY's until > migrating to Ohio in early 1800's. > > Also -- does anyone have the birthdate and plae of Benjamin WOOLSEY above? > My database mysteriously erased all dates and places. :( > > Thank you. > > Valerie > > >

In a message dated 11/3/00 12:55:03 PM Central Standard Time, mwdiet@home.com writes: << I hope this answers some of your questions. I would be especially interested in any Selleck connection from Stamford or Connecticut. Thank you. Sincerely, Wilford W. Whitaker >> Hi Wilford! Your wish is my command! http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctfairfi/stamford/selleck.htm My SELLECK line is as follows: Nicholas SELLECK b 1608 2. David b 1625 md Susannah KIBBY/KILBY/KIRBY (Notes for DAVID: David was engaged in trade from the colonies to and from Barbados in the West Indies. Member of the First Church of Boston on Jan 25, 1643/44. Described as a soap boiler of Dorchester Mass, 1633 and 1640.) 3. Captain John b 1643 Boston, Mass. md Sarah LAW (Notes for Capt John: John settled in Stamford about 1660. Captain John Selleck left on a trading voyage in 1689, never to return. He may have been captured by the French. Had at least 3 children, probably more.) 4. Nathaniel (Sr) b 1678 Stamford, Ct md Sarah LOCKWOOD 5. Nathaniel (Jr) b 1704 Stamford md Mary DEMILL (related to Cecil B.) (notes for Nathaniel Jr: Nathaniel Selleck was a signer for the formation of the Darien CT Congregational Church and a member. source: Bates, Selleck and Allied Families Genealogy, by Gorham) 6. Peter b 1729 Stamford md Martha WHITING (some question wife's name) 7. Jane b 1753 md Stephen LONGWELL 8. Isaac LONGWELL b 1778 Stamford m: Sarah WINSLOW (dau of Samuel WINSLOW and Margaret WOOLSEY- Samuel is son of ? Margaret is dau of Benjamin M. WOOLSEY and Margarite TELLER) Here's a tad more: Peter SELLECK was born may 2 1729 in Stamford. Aparently his parents died before 1748, because on april 5, 1748 he chose his uncle, Peter DeMill, to be his guardian. Peter and Martha Whiting Selleck lived in Old Poundridge, NY on Feb 8, 1764. They were in Salem CT in 1767, Stamford 1771. by 1790 Peter was shown in Norwalk or Stamford CT. Martha's half sister Mary Whiting, married Peter's brother Ezra Selleck. Her half sister, Deborah Whiting, married Abraham Selleck, brother of Peter. John and Susannah Longwell bought 3 acres from Peter and his brother Anthony on the west side of the Mill river in Stamford on Mar 2, 1741. This Peter DeMill, guardian of Peter Selleck, lived near Susannah Longwell on apr 21, 1760 when they legally agreed on a fence line between his meadow and her property. This is where Jane Selleck met Stephen Longwell. All of his children were baptised at St. John's P.E. Church of Stamford where he was a member. (From MY LONGWELL FAMILY HISTORY, James Nelson Longwell - sources Bates Selleck and Allied Families Genealogy, by Gorham, p 220 232 292 Land records of Stamford f:401 I dont have a Nancy SELLECK in my database. HOYT was a prominent name in Stamford History. I believe Alexander HOYT was the Justice of the Peace when Stephen LONGWELL married Jane SELLECK. Have fun at that website I gave you! Valerie

In a message dated 11/2/00 3:28:58 PM Central Standard Time, mwdiet@home.com writes: << Selleck, J. Woolsey Dr. (1887-88) @ Stamford, CT. >> I am related to both Woolsey (Benjamin & Margarite Teller WOOLSEY) AND Selleck family (Nathaniel SELLECKs son Peter b 1729 and wife Martha Whiting SELLECK) of Stamford CT. I'd be interested in learning which WOOLSEY's were in CT? My Selleck line was in Fairfield CT., but they didn't meet up with the WOOLSEY's until migrating to Ohio in early 1800's. Also -- does anyone have the birthdate and plae of Benjamin WOOLSEY above? My database mysteriously erased all dates and places. :( Thank you. Valerie

To any interested Woolsey researcher: I have over 40 individuals who have the first name Woolsey (Wolsey) or middle name Woolsey. I thought you may be interested in them and if anyone can add to any of these, it would be appreciated. Recognizing that often names were given because of respect, I think that a lot of these are descended from the Woolseys through a daughter, so that is my interest. WOOLSEY FIRST NAMES The Woolsey name has been a strong name in each family that intermarried into it. Many children have been given the first name or middle name of Woolsey. I think it is safe to say that in almost every instance, there will be Woolsey/Wolsey a little farther back in the pedigree. I haven´t been able to place the following. Any suggestions from anyone? Bacon, Rev. Leonard Woolsey md Susan Bacon Bacon, Leonard Woolsey, Jr. s/o Rev. Leonard Woolsey Bacon Barrett, Melancthon Woolsey md Annis Clark Barrett, Wolsey Melancton Upstate New York Beers, William Woolsey md Pauline M. Edmonds Blatchley, Daniel Woolsey Family of Daniel Woolsey Nat. Gen. Soc. Bleakley, John Woolsey s/o John Bleakley & Rebecca Greer Burton, Woolsey s/o William Burton & Agnes Stratton Coonrod, Woolsey Colonial Soldiers of VA. Cummins, Woolsey d. 16 Aug 1915, Dallas Co, AL Field, Wolsey d. Jan 1937, Morgan Co, AL. Finnell, Woolsey d. 26 Jan 1855, Tuscaloosa Co, AL. Hathaway, Woolsey md Mary Walker - in 1785 in Tyrrell Co, NC Hay, Woolsey of New Goshen, Vigo, IN. Hicks, Emeerson Wolsey 'Wolse' of Barren Co., KY Heaslett, Woolsey F. d. 16 Oct 1957, Calhoun Co, AL Higgins, Woolsey D. Murdered 1866, Omaha, Nebraska Hopkins, Woolsey R. (1887-88) @ Stamford, CT. Humbert, Fletcher Woolsey s/o William Humbert & Lydia Ann Reed Iliff, Elijah Woolsey md 1823 Sarah Hiner, Hunterdon, NJ. King, James Woolsey d. 8 Jan 1922, Jefferson Co, AL. Light, Woolsey (1762-8128) Dutchess, later Putnam Co, NY Loomis, Joel Woolsey s/o Woolsey Melancthon Loomis - a medalion Loomis, Woolsey Melancthon s/o Eber Loomis & Rebecca Collins Magee, Wolsey s/o Lorenzo Magee Mathers, Wolsey N. Ireland to Canada in 1820. Morrow, Wollsey Lanning s/o Wolsey Peck Morrow, Jefferson Co, AL. Morrow, Wolsey Peck (1850-1940), Jefferson Co, AL. Peck, Wolsey Fleming Cemetery, Fremont, Iowa Pierce, Thomas Woolsey b 22 Jul 1849, Mississippi Robinson, Woolsey md Mary Frame Roycroft, Woolsey A. d. 2 Oct 1954, Tuscaloosa Co, AL. Selleck, J. Woolsey Dr. (1887-88) @ Stamford, CT. Shafer, Woolsey Andes, Delaware, NY Thomas, Wolsey Robison s/oWilliam Leonard Thomas & Elizabeth Norris Tibbetts, Wolsey s/o Stephen Tibbetts & Juletta French Van Huss (Hoose), George Wolsey d. 7 Apr 1922, Jefferson Co, AL. Warrington, Woolsey md Joannah Hassell of Hickman Co, TN Washburn, Woolsey Paris District teacher state? Wells, Woolsey B. of Vigo Co, IN Williams, Nehemiah Woolsey md Harriett Willimon of TN Wilson, Wolsey Of Lowndes, MS. Sincerely, Wilford W. Whitaker

Dear Woolseys, My great-great grandfather was George Woolsey who died in Pierce City, Lawrence County, Missouri in 1906. According to the 1880 and 1900 census, he was born in September 1851 in Tennesee. He lived in Monett, Barry County, Missouri on the 1900 census. His wife was Sarah Hand (1852-1922). The 1870 Pierce City, Lawrence County census has a Dr. Andrew Woolsey as head of household, and a George Woolsey (age 19 and in school) living in this household. I did a query on ancestry.com, and found an Andrew Woolsey in Greene county, TN on the 1850 census. A newpaper abstract from Missouri mentions that Dr. Andrew Woolsey, formerly of Pierce City has died in St. Louis in 1897. I'm wondering whether Andrew is the father of George. Would anybody have any information on the Woolsey family in Greene County that would include Andrew and George, or describe a migration from Tennessee to Missouri? Thanks! - Heather

I second the motion Wilford. I am very grateful for all you do. Trying to absorb it as I do my Vesper research. Wish I could find more time to help you. Already running faster than.... Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Wilkerson <carolynw46@juno.com> To: WOOLSEY-L@rootsweb.com <WOOLSEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, October 29, 2000 6:24 AM Subject: Re: George Woolsey and the Beaver >Wilford, > >Have I said Thank You lately for you generosity in sharing your time and >research? > >If not here is a big thank you http://www.list-us.com/kissed/ . > >Carolyn Woolsey Wilkerson > > > >On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:44:43 -0600 "Wilford Whitaker" <mwdiet@home.com> >writes: >> To any interested Woolsey researcher: >> >> One never knows where one's research efforts will lead. It appears >> that our Immigrant Ancestor George Woolsey was an active participant >> in one of New York's ship master's first attempt to bribe a public >> official. >> >> I haven't determined which of the two Thomas Willets made this >> bribe. It was probably the first one below. ?? >> >> 1. Thomas Willet who became a mayor of New York and lived for some >> time. Not related to George Woolsey. >> >> 2. Thomas Willet, the soldier, who was George Woolsey's >> brother-in-law, who had married Rebecca Cornell Woolsey's sister, >> Sarah Cornell, and died quite young. >> JORSE WOLSEY >> >> and The Bribery of A Customs' Official >> >> The 31 May 1646 may be the date of the first attempted effort of a >> sea captain, Thomas Willet, to bribe the Nieu Amsterdam Customs >> Official, Fiscal van Dyck. Our Immigrant Ancestor was a witness and >> here we have the deposition that he stated as to what he had >> witnessed, and done. [Not sure that this Thomas Willet is George's >> brother-in-law.] >> >> 1646 31 May 1646. The fiscal, plaintiff, vs. Jorse Wolsy, defendant. >> Plaintiff, having seized some powder which was not entered, demands >> its confiscation. Defendant says that it belongs to Allerton, his >> master, and requests delay until his master shall have come back >> from New England, which is granted him. [IBID. p. 255] [Artwork ] >> >> Whereas for some years past all free traders here in New Netherland >> have duty on all peltries purchased and bartered by them here and >> exported to the fatherland by every opportunity of ships, the >> council have therefore considered it highly necessary to established >> a fixed duty, in order that each person may know what impost he has >> to pay. Therefore, it is resolved that the duty shall be computed as >> follows; On every exported merchantable beaver skin shall be paid 15 >> stivers, two halves being counted as one whole and three drielings >> as two whole beavers; on each other and bear skin 15 stivers; on >> each elk hide 15 stivers, and on the other furs of less value >> according to circumstances. Thus done in Council. Present: The >> honorable Dir Willem Kieft, late director; Mr. Dincklagen, Mr. La >> Mongagne, Lt. Nuton, Paulus Leenersz, commissary of naval stores & >> Jan Claesz Bol. 23 Jul 1847. Jan Dollinghj from Bristol, aged about >> 32 years, being legally summoned to court, declares that whe! >> n Mr. Bratton´s bark a short time ago was about to sail, it was >> found that Mr. Bratton aforesaid must pay 50 Carolus guilders duty >> on the goods which were sold by him here. Fiscal van Dyck came and >> demanded the aforesaid duty and said to Mr. Bratton: "Fifty guilders >> is too much for the honorable Company; give the Company 30 guilders >> and me ten guilders." The deponent declares that he paid the said >> ten guilders to the fiscal in seawan in the Great Tavern and handed >> him a note for 30 guilders for the Company in payment of the duty. >> The deponent declares that he heard from Joris Wolsey and Ritchert >> Clof that Mr. Tomas Willet made the above named fiscal a present of >> a veaver on condition that he should not inspect his bark. Thus done >> in council in Fort Amsterdam, dated as above. >> >> Richard Clof from Manchester, aged 40 years, being legally summoned >> to court, declares that he heard Mr. Willet say that the honorable >> fiscal came to inspect the bark of the said Willet. The aforesaid >> Willet said in the deponent´s presence in the house of Isaack >> Allerton that he said to Fiscal van Dyck when he came on board to >> make his inspection that it was too much trouble to open the hold >> and to overhaul things and that in doing so he would lose much time. >> He promised to give Fiscal van Dyck a beaver if he would not >> inspect. Deponent further declares that Gorge Wolsey carried a >> veaver. The deponent asked where he was going with it. Wolsey >> answered, he was going to take the beaver to Fiscal van Dyck. [IBID, >> p., 320.] >> >> 1647 23 July Declaration of George Woolsey that Fiscal van Dyck >> accepted a bribe from Thomas Willett to let his bark sail without >> inspection. [160d] At the request of the Honorable Director General >> Petrus Stuyvesant and the council of New Netherland Gorge Wolsey, >> aged about twenty-six years, from Yarmouth in Old England, attests, >> testifies and declares in the presence of Captain Lieutenant Nuton >> (Captain Bryan Newton) and Jan Claessen Bol, captain of the ship De >> Princes, in place and with promise of a solemn oath if need be, that >> on the Saturday last Fiscal van Dyck came on board Mr. Tomas >> Willit´s bark to inspect it and [he, the deponent,] heard the above >> mentioned Mr. Willit say at Mr. Isaac Allerton´s house that because >> he must be away he had presented the above named Fiscal van Dyck >> with a beaver, in order that he would not lose his time by clearing >> things away and in order that the fiscal would be content to let him >> sail unhindered; which beaver he, Gorge Wolsey, placed! >> in the hands of the said fiscal himself. The deponent, in the >> presence of the aforesaid councilors, declares this to be true and >> offers to confirm the same on oath. Done in Fort Amsterdam in New >> Netherland, the 23d of July A . 1647. [signed] Joris Wolsy. >> Acknowledged before me, Cornelis van Tienhoven, Secretary. >> >> Has anyone made a study of the Dutch currency? >> >> Is it revealing to learn that these people were human, too? And >> only points up that old adage "That there is nothing new under the >> sun!" >> >> I don't have the dates at hand but it was about this time that >> George Woolsey was chosen as one of the "chimney inspectors" (first >> firemen in New York) and had the power to levy fines, pull down >> chimneys and in other ways try to make the town safer. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Wilford W. Whitaker >> >> > >Carolyn Woolsey Wilkerson >carolynw46@juno.com >To all genealogy researchers: Remember, it's fun to find out where >you came from, but it is infinitely more important to know where you >are going when you leave here. > >

Wilford and any other interested person, I would like to correct some of my information, any corrections or additions are appreciated: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 you had the following in a message you sent to the list: John WOOLSEY III (above) and his first wife Priscilla WOOLSEY b 1741, Bedford, Westchester, NY, d 1772, Marlboro, Ulster, NY. They md 20 Nov 1761 at Marlboro, Ulster, NY. John Woolsey III s/o John Woolsey II and Mary Sammis, s/o John Woolsey & Abigail (Stephenson?), s/o George Woolsey & Rebecca Cornell.] In regards to the Priscilla Woolsey above I show the following: Birthplace as Bedford, Westchester, New York Death date as 1772. Also, in regards to Abigail Stephenson supposed mother of John II, I show Abigail as being born in 1642. The birth date of her son John II as 1706 which I think would make her about 64 years of age when John II was born. I'm thoroughly amazed, I thought artificial insimination in regards to human beings was a rather new procedure. Or, did John II have a surrogate mother? Did John and Abigail have slaves and is it possible that John was his son by a slave girl? Maybe he was an orphan? Possibly a nephew that parents died and he was raised by John and Abigail. Say Mr. Chuck what do you have on Abigail? Do you think she was John's mother? Maybe she found him under a cabbage leaf (did they raise cabbage up thar in Long Island, New York?) <LOL LOL> Carolyn Woolsey Wilkerson carolynw46@juno.com To all genealogy researchers: Remember, it's fun to find out where you came from, but it is infinitely more important to know where you are going when you leave here.

Wilford, Have I said Thank You lately for you generosity in sharing your time and research? If not here is a big thank you http://www.list-us.com/kissed/ . Carolyn Woolsey Wilkerson On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:44:43 -0600 "Wilford Whitaker" <mwdiet@home.com> writes: > To any interested Woolsey researcher: > > One never knows where one's research efforts will lead. It appears > that our Immigrant Ancestor George Woolsey was an active participant > in one of New York's ship master's first attempt to bribe a public > official. > > I haven't determined which of the two Thomas Willets made this > bribe. It was probably the first one below. ?? > > 1. Thomas Willet who became a mayor of New York and lived for some > time. Not related to George Woolsey. > > 2. Thomas Willet, the soldier, who was George Woolsey's > brother-in-law, who had married Rebecca Cornell Woolsey's sister, > Sarah Cornell, and died quite young. > JORSE WOLSEY > > and The Bribery of A Customs' Official > > The 31 May 1646 may be the date of the first attempted effort of a > sea captain, Thomas Willet, to bribe the Nieu Amsterdam Customs > Official, Fiscal van Dyck. Our Immigrant Ancestor was a witness and > here we have the deposition that he stated as to what he had > witnessed, and done. [Not sure that this Thomas Willet is George's > brother-in-law.] > > 1646 31 May 1646. The fiscal, plaintiff, vs. Jorse Wolsy, defendant. > Plaintiff, having seized some powder which was not entered, demands > its confiscation. Defendant says that it belongs to Allerton, his > master, and requests delay until his master shall have come back > from New England, which is granted him. [IBID. p. 255] [Artwork ] > > Whereas for some years past all free traders here in New Netherland > have duty on all peltries purchased and bartered by them here and > exported to the fatherland by every opportunity of ships, the > council have therefore considered it highly necessary to established > a fixed duty, in order that each person may know what impost he has > to pay. Therefore, it is resolved that the duty shall be computed as > follows; On every exported merchantable beaver skin shall be paid 15 > stivers, two halves being counted as one whole and three drielings > as two whole beavers; on each other and bear skin 15 stivers; on > each elk hide 15 stivers, and on the other furs of less value > according to circumstances. Thus done in Council. Present: The > honorable Dir Willem Kieft, late director; Mr. Dincklagen, Mr. La > Mongagne, Lt. Nuton, Paulus Leenersz, commissary of naval stores & > Jan Claesz Bol. 23 Jul 1847. Jan Dollinghj from Bristol, aged about > 32 years, being legally summoned to court, declares that whe! > n Mr. BrattonŽs bark a short time ago was about to sail, it was > found that Mr. Bratton aforesaid must pay 50 Carolus guilders duty > on the goods which were sold by him here. Fiscal van Dyck came and > demanded the aforesaid duty and said to Mr. Bratton: "Fifty guilders > is too much for the honorable Company; give the Company 30 guilders > and me ten guilders." The deponent declares that he paid the said > ten guilders to the fiscal in seawan in the Great Tavern and handed > him a note for 30 guilders for the Company in payment of the duty. > The deponent declares that he heard from Joris Wolsey and Ritchert > Clof that Mr. Tomas Willet made the above named fiscal a present of > a veaver on condition that he should not inspect his bark. Thus done > in council in Fort Amsterdam, dated as above. > > Richard Clof from Manchester, aged 40 years, being legally summoned > to court, declares that he heard Mr. Willet say that the honorable > fiscal came to inspect the bark of the said Willet. The aforesaid > Willet said in the deponentŽs presence in the house of Isaack > Allerton that he said to Fiscal van Dyck when he came on board to > make his inspection that it was too much trouble to open the hold > and to overhaul things and that in doing so he would lose much time. > He promised to give Fiscal van Dyck a beaver if he would not > inspect. Deponent further declares that Gorge Wolsey carried a > veaver. The deponent asked where he was going with it. Wolsey > answered, he was going to take the beaver to Fiscal van Dyck. [IBID, > p., 320.] > > 1647 23 July Declaration of George Woolsey that Fiscal van Dyck > accepted a bribe from Thomas Willett to let his bark sail without > inspection. [160d] At the request of the Honorable Director General > Petrus Stuyvesant and the council of New Netherland Gorge Wolsey, > aged about twenty-six years, from Yarmouth in Old England, attests, > testifies and declares in the presence of Captain Lieutenant Nuton > (Captain Bryan Newton) and Jan Claessen Bol, captain of the ship De > Princes, in place and with promise of a solemn oath if need be, that > on the Saturday last Fiscal van Dyck came on board Mr. Tomas > WillitŽs bark to inspect it and [he, the deponent,] heard the above > mentioned Mr. Willit say at Mr. Isaac AllertonŽs house that because > he must be away he had presented the above named Fiscal van Dyck > with a beaver, in order that he would not lose his time by clearing > things away and in order that the fiscal would be content to let him > sail unhindered; which beaver he, Gorge Wolsey, placed! > in the hands of the said fiscal himself. The deponent, in the > presence of the aforesaid councilors, declares this to be true and > offers to confirm the same on oath. Done in Fort Amsterdam in New > Netherland, the 23d of July A . 1647. [signed] Joris Wolsy. > Acknowledged before me, Cornelis van Tienhoven, Secretary. > > Has anyone made a study of the Dutch currency? > > Is it revealing to learn that these people were human, too? And > only points up that old adage "That there is nothing new under the > sun!" > > I don't have the dates at hand but it was about this time that > George Woolsey was chosen as one of the "chimney inspectors" (first > firemen in New York) and had the power to levy fines, pull down > chimneys and in other ways try to make the town safer. > > Sincerely, > > Wilford W. Whitaker > > Carolyn Woolsey Wilkerson carolynw46@juno.com To all genealogy researchers: Remember, it's fun to find out where you came from, but it is infinitely more important to know where you are going when you leave here.

<here comes the town crier> HERE, HERE, Let it be known that on the 28th day of Oct. in the year of 2000, that Gentleman Wilford Whitaker of Utah has been heard!!! Hooray, what a day in history. (Dearest Wilford, I got the message - please note the website is not up - I hurried and got it all off before you reached through this machine and grabbed me by the neck. (LOL LOL) (I hope that you know that I'm sitting here laughing and enjoy rassing you Wilford.) Carolyn Woolsey Wilkerson carolynw46@juno.com To all genealogy researchers: Remember, it's fun to find out where you came from, but it is infinitely more important to know where you are going when you leave here. On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:24:47 -0600 "Wilford Whitaker" <mwdiet@home.com> writes: > To all interested Woolsey researchers: > > I have a little time tonite (before "Millionaire") and as I have > been doing a lot of thinking lately, I thought I would put down some > thoughts. > > As I research, I am looking for "primary sources" for any > individual. A "primary source" is a record that is written down at > the time an event happened, i. e., when a child is christened or > baptized, the minister or clerk would make a record of that event > right after it happened. > > Another example of a "primary source" would be when the clerk or > minister would write down the "bans" or the actual marriage right > after it took place. An "official" record. > > The date of a burial could be a "primary source", written down when > the burial took place, but the information on the death certificate > or burial record is not necessarily a "primary source". For > instance, someone could state the deceased individual was born on > "such or such " a date, but that would not be considered a "primary > source", because the accuracy of the data would depend on so many > variables. > > Anyway, it is important that we understand "primary sources" and > "secondary sources", and "other sources", etc. as we engage in > Family History Research. > > We cannot treat all sources that we run across as "primary sources". > Just because information appears in print, does not automatically > make that information correct. We must study, and judge, and even > sometimes, make educated guesses, as we attemp to "document" our > family. > > After I decided to work on the Woolsey family and "document" it, I > first attempted to put into some kind of order the family of Richard > Woolsey and Nancy Plumbstead. After three years, I'm still working > on that family. > > I do believe I have their son Joseph Woolsey, who married Abigail > Schaeffer, and his sons and daughters quite correct, but I am still > working on that. > > After about one year, I decided to tackle our immigrant ancestor, > George Woolsey (Joris Wolsij). I searched out every reference to > him that I could find. Almost every quotation about him refers back > to the article by Benjamin W. Dwight, in 1873, which appears in the > New York Genealogical and Biographical RECORD, Vol. 4, etc. In the > same year, Theodore Dwight Woolsey (who had given a great deal of > data to Benjamin W. Dwight), finished a History he was writing. > > Unfortunately, neither of these two gentlemen quoted any "primary > sources", for their work, especially for any reference before George > Woolsey, the Immigrant. > > Well, they used the date of 27 Oct 1610 as the date of George > Woolsey's birth, and quoting George Woolsey's marriage record, > stated that he was born in Yarmouth, England. > > Now, this is a pretty straight-forward date. There are no "ifs ands > or abouts" here. 27 Oct 1610. That should be a fairly easy date to > find. > > The Family History Library here in Salt Lake City has a fine > microfilm collection of the Parish Registers of England, so I > thought that would be a good place to start. I ran into a few > problems right at the start, but none of them were insurmountable. > One needs to know the name of the church where one's ancestor was > christened. I found no record which named the actual church where > George Woolsey was christened. > > O.K, a set-back, but with research, it can be overcome. So, I > determined to search the church records of Yarmouth, (Great > Yarmouth), Norfolk, England. However, there are over 80 churches in > the Yarmouth City area. I was able to eliminate those churches > whose records started too late, but there were still over 50 > churches whose records needed to be searched. > > Because I am retired, and I have the time and interest, I tackled > this job and put in many 8, 10 and 12 hour days searching these > records. I started with the largest parish in Yarmouth and checked > the Parish Registers for christenings for 27 Oct 1610. I found no > Woolseys in that date. I then checked every entry for one year > before and one year after that date. Again no Woolseys. > > I then checked every pertinent Church Parish Registers for all the > other Churches in Yarmouth. No Woolseys. I then expanded my search > in circles around Yarmouth and checked another 40-50 Parish > Registers for that date. Nothing was found. > > Now I had been searching for several months and was getting quite > discouraged and frustated. What had happened to that > "straight-forward" date of 27 Oct 1610? Where had it come from? > > I then went back to the United States sources and checked every > early source (again) I could find. They all pointed back to Dwight > and Woolsey, as above. Well, perhaps they had access to some family > information that is no longer available. That is possible. But I > wasn't about to give up. > > Then I found a reference to the Delafield Genealogy by General > Delafield, who had a short reference to the Woolsey family. He said > that George Woolsey was baptized in 1616 in St. Lawrence Parish, in > Yarmouth. You can imagine my excitement as I prepared to search the > St. Lawrence Parish in Yarmouth! > > However, I soon discovered that there is NO St. Lawrence Parish in > Yarmouth. Back to square one. I then discovered that there was a > St. Lawrence Parish in Ipswich, Suffolk County, England, where the > Cardinal, Thomas Wolsey, was from. > > So, I carefully and assiduously studied the St. Lawrence Parish > Registers in Ipswich, but found no 1616 date with Woolseys. In > fact, I never found very many Woolseys at all. I then checked out > the 27 Oct 1616 date again for the St. Lawrence Church in Ipswich, > but found nothing. Back to square one again. > > But I was convinced that George Woolsey was born in Yarmouth, > because the Dutch records most often meant "born at" when they used > the word "VAN". So back to the Yarmouth Records, this time > searching for the 1616 date. > > At that time, Yarmouth was known as Great Yarmouth. I decided to > check the Registers of the largest Parish in Great Yarmouth. I had > already checked the Registers for the 27 Oct 1610 date and had found > nothing. This was a very large church, with several ministers and > helpers and clerks. The handwriting was very small and cramped and > crowded close together on a page. To make it more difficult, it > required a "high-magnification" microfilm reader to read this small > script. But I started looking for a christening on 15 May 1616 in > the Registers of St. Nicholas Parish, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, > England. > > You can imagine my surprise, my joy, my relief when I found, under > Christenings, on 15 May 1616, the following: > George Wolsey 15 May 1616, son of George and ffrances > > I then found the christenings of two of George's brothers but that > is a different story. > > Because of this find (and others in Norfolk) I have discounted all > Woolsey information that has been printed, published, written, > handed down, conjectured, imagined, made up, before George Woolsey, > the Settler, our Immigrant ancestor, before he came to America. > > Benjamin W. Dwight titled his early genealogy, "The Descendants of > Rev. Benjamin Woolsey of Dosoris". I believe that here is where > some careless researchers got the idea that there was a Rev. > Benjamin Woolsey of Yarmouth to America. There was NO Rev. Benjamin > Woolsey of Yarmouth. There was NO Rev. Benjamin Woolsey who married > a HOOK girl. There was NO Rev. Benjamin Woolsey, an uncle of George > Woolsey. > > There is no documented line from our Immigrant ancestor George > Woolsey back to the Cardinal, Thomas Wolsey. People have taken a > few names, stuck them together and called it a "pedigree". > > I will repeat my earlier offer, of $100, for a documented line back > from our Immigrant ancestor to the Cardinal, Thomas Wolsey. > > Well, enough for now. Must get to "Millionaire". I am trying very > hard not to confuse anyone. > > Sincerely, > > Wilford W. Whitaker > Carolyn Woolsey Wilkerson carolynw46@juno.com To all genealogy researchers: Remember, it's fun to find out where you came from, but it is infinitely more important to know where you are going when you leave here.

To any interested Woolsey researcher: One never knows where one's research efforts will lead. It appears that our Immigrant Ancestor George Woolsey was an active participant in one of New York's ship master's first attempt to bribe a public official. I haven't determined which of the two Thomas Willets made this bribe. It was probably the first one below. ?? 1. Thomas Willet who became a mayor of New York and lived for some time. Not related to George Woolsey. 2. Thomas Willet, the soldier, who was George Woolsey's brother-in-law, who had married Rebecca Cornell Woolsey's sister, Sarah Cornell, and died quite young. JORSE WOLSEY and The Bribery of A Customs' Official The 31 May 1646 may be the date of the first attempted effort of a sea captain, Thomas Willet, to bribe the Nieu Amsterdam Customs Official, Fiscal van Dyck. Our Immigrant Ancestor was a witness and here we have the deposition that he stated as to what he had witnessed, and done. [Not sure that this Thomas Willet is George's brother-in-law.] 1646 31 May 1646. The fiscal, plaintiff, vs. Jorse Wolsy, defendant. Plaintiff, having seized some powder which was not entered, demands its confiscation. Defendant says that it belongs to Allerton, his master, and requests delay until his master shall have come back from New England, which is granted him. [IBID. p. 255] [Artwork ] Whereas for some years past all free traders here in New Netherland have duty on all peltries purchased and bartered by them here and exported to the fatherland by every opportunity of ships, the council have therefore considered it highly necessary to established a fixed duty, in order that each person may know what impost he has to pay. Therefore, it is resolved that the duty shall be computed as follows; On every exported merchantable beaver skin shall be paid 15 stivers, two halves being counted as one whole and three drielings as two whole beavers; on each other and bear skin 15 stivers; on each elk hide 15 stivers, and on the other furs of less value according to circumstances. Thus done in Council. Present: The honorable Dir Willem Kieft, late director; Mr. Dincklagen, Mr. La Mongagne, Lt. Nuton, Paulus Leenersz, commissary of naval stores & Jan Claesz Bol. 23 Jul 1847. Jan Dollinghj from Bristol, aged about 32 years, being legally summoned to court, declares that whe! n Mr. Bratton´s bark a short time ago was about to sail, it was found that Mr. Bratton aforesaid must pay 50 Carolus guilders duty on the goods which were sold by him here. Fiscal van Dyck came and demanded the aforesaid duty and said to Mr. Bratton: "Fifty guilders is too much for the honorable Company; give the Company 30 guilders and me ten guilders." The deponent declares that he paid the said ten guilders to the fiscal in seawan in the Great Tavern and handed him a note for 30 guilders for the Company in payment of the duty. The deponent declares that he heard from Joris Wolsey and Ritchert Clof that Mr. Tomas Willet made the above named fiscal a present of a veaver on condition that he should not inspect his bark. Thus done in council in Fort Amsterdam, dated as above. Richard Clof from Manchester, aged 40 years, being legally summoned to court, declares that he heard Mr. Willet say that the honorable fiscal came to inspect the bark of the said Willet. The aforesaid Willet said in the deponent´s presence in the house of Isaack Allerton that he said to Fiscal van Dyck when he came on board to make his inspection that it was too much trouble to open the hold and to overhaul things and that in doing so he would lose much time. He promised to give Fiscal van Dyck a beaver if he would not inspect. Deponent further declares that Gorge Wolsey carried a veaver. The deponent asked where he was going with it. Wolsey answered, he was going to take the beaver to Fiscal van Dyck. [IBID, p., 320.] 1647 23 July Declaration of George Woolsey that Fiscal van Dyck accepted a bribe from Thomas Willett to let his bark sail without inspection. [160d] At the request of the Honorable Director General Petrus Stuyvesant and the council of New Netherland Gorge Wolsey, aged about twenty-six years, from Yarmouth in Old England, attests, testifies and declares in the presence of Captain Lieutenant Nuton (Captain Bryan Newton) and Jan Claessen Bol, captain of the ship De Princes, in place and with promise of a solemn oath if need be, that on the Saturday last Fiscal van Dyck came on board Mr. Tomas Willit´s bark to inspect it and [he, the deponent,] heard the above mentioned Mr. Willit say at Mr. Isaac Allerton´s house that because he must be away he had presented the above named Fiscal van Dyck with a beaver, in order that he would not lose his time by clearing things away and in order that the fiscal would be content to let him sail unhindered; which beaver he, Gorge Wolsey, placed! in the hands of the said fiscal himself. The deponent, in the presence of the aforesaid councilors, declares this to be true and offers to confirm the same on oath. Done in Fort Amsterdam in New Netherland, the 23d of July A . 1647. [signed] Joris Wolsy. Acknowledged before me, Cornelis van Tienhoven, Secretary. Has anyone made a study of the Dutch currency? Is it revealing to learn that these people were human, too? And only points up that old adage "That there is nothing new under the sun!" I don't have the dates at hand but it was about this time that George Woolsey was chosen as one of the "chimney inspectors" (first firemen in New York) and had the power to levy fines, pull down chimneys and in other ways try to make the town safer. Sincerely, Wilford W. Whitaker

To interested Woolsey researchers: WASHINGTON COUNTY, VIRGINIA 1782 Personal Property Tax List Col. Arthur Campbell's Precinct [This section of this tax list is faded, and very difficult to read.] I, Wilford W. Whitaker have been studying the 1782 Tax List of Washington County, Virginia, and have wondered for sometime why the Woolseys do not appear on this list. As I studied the Land and Survey Records and learned who were neighbors of the Woolseys, I have come to the conclusion that they are on this Tax List, but wrongly identified. They should have appeared as living close to Jonathan Dean but they do not. However, there are the following, which should become apparent, in just a little while. NAME TITHES HORSES CATTLE SLAVES & NAMES Patterson, John 1 4 6 Finley, George 1 3 7 Evans, Thomas 1 2 3 Cannon, Thomas 1 2 4 Evans, John 1 2 6 Watkins, David 1 2 5 Young, James 1 0 2 Jones, Joshua 1 3 2 Williams, Jenkin 1 5 7 Dean, Jonathan - - - Lewis, William, Senr. 2 3 6 Lewis, John 1 3 - Lewis, William 1 3 12 Lewis, Griffith 1 4 5 WOLING, RICHARD - - - WOLING, THOMAS - - - Johnston, Henry ?? - - - McFarlane, John 1 4 6 Williams, Daniel 1 - - Hopkins, Jeremiah - - - After an exhaustive search, WOLING is not a name that is found in Washington County, Virginia. At this time, I believe that the above Richard & Thomas WOLING is a misreading of Richard [md Nancy Plumbstead.]& Thomas WOOLSEY, the father. Sincerely, Wilford W. Whitaker

To all interested Woolsey researchers: WWW's preMillionaire thoughts on primary sources and evidence (October 24) are well worth pondering, and that's just what I have been doing. Does anyone have any idea where the Benjamin W. Dwight Papers might be? The man published several huge volumes as well as the series of Woolsey pieces in the Record and it stands to reason that he generated many letters, drafts and files, which may exist today, in whole or in part. I know where I would start looking for them if the task were mine, but before I once again re-invent the wheel I want to ask if anyone has run these papers down or tried to do so. Does anyone have information or advice? Alec Sutherland

To all interested Woolsey researchers: I have a little time tonite (before "Millionaire") and as I have been doing a lot of thinking lately, I thought I would put down some thoughts. As I research, I am looking for "primary sources" for any individual. A "primary source" is a record that is written down at the time an event happened, i. e., when a child is christened or baptized, the minister or clerk would make a record of that event right after it happened. Another example of a "primary source" would be when the clerk or minister would write down the "bans" or the actual marriage right after it took place. An "official" record. The date of a burial could be a "primary source", written down when the burial took place, but the information on the death certificate or burial record is not necessarily a "primary source". For instance, someone could state the deceased individual was born on "such or such " a date, but that would not be considered a "primary source", because the accuracy of the data would depend on so many variables. Anyway, it is important that we understand "primary sources" and "secondary sources", and "other sources", etc. as we engage in Family History Research. We cannot treat all sources that we run across as "primary sources". Just because information appears in print, does not automatically make that information correct. We must study, and judge, and even sometimes, make educated guesses, as we attemp to "document" our family. After I decided to work on the Woolsey family and "document" it, I first attempted to put into some kind of order the family of Richard Woolsey and Nancy Plumbstead. After three years, I'm still working on that family. I do believe I have their son Joseph Woolsey, who married Abigail Schaeffer, and his sons and daughters quite correct, but I am still working on that. After about one year, I decided to tackle our immigrant ancestor, George Woolsey (Joris Wolsij). I searched out every reference to him that I could find. Almost every quotation about him refers back to the article by Benjamin W. Dwight, in 1873, which appears in the New York Genealogical and Biographical RECORD, Vol. 4, etc. In the same year, Theodore Dwight Woolsey (who had given a great deal of data to Benjamin W. Dwight), finished a History he was writing. Unfortunately, neither of these two gentlemen quoted any "primary sources", for their work, especially for any reference before George Woolsey, the Immigrant. Well, they used the date of 27 Oct 1610 as the date of George Woolsey's birth, and quoting George Woolsey's marriage record, stated that he was born in Yarmouth, England. Now, this is a pretty straight-forward date. There are no "ifs ands or abouts" here. 27 Oct 1610. That should be a fairly easy date to find. The Family History Library here in Salt Lake City has a fine microfilm collection of the Parish Registers of England, so I thought that would be a good place to start. I ran into a few problems right at the start, but none of them were insurmountable. One needs to know the name of the church where one's ancestor was christened. I found no record which named the actual church where George Woolsey was christened. O.K, a set-back, but with research, it can be overcome. So, I determined to search the church records of Yarmouth, (Great Yarmouth), Norfolk, England. However, there are over 80 churches in the Yarmouth City area. I was able to eliminate those churches whose records started too late, but there were still over 50 churches whose records needed to be searched. Because I am retired, and I have the time and interest, I tackled this job and put in many 8, 10 and 12 hour days searching these records. I started with the largest parish in Yarmouth and checked the Parish Registers for christenings for 27 Oct 1610. I found no Woolseys in that date. I then checked every entry for one year before and one year after that date. Again no Woolseys. I then checked every pertinent Church Parish Registers for all the other Churches in Yarmouth. No Woolseys. I then expanded my search in circles around Yarmouth and checked another 40-50 Parish Registers for that date. Nothing was found. Now I had been searching for several months and was getting quite discouraged and frustated. What had happened to that "straight-forward" date of 27 Oct 1610? Where had it come from? I then went back to the United States sources and checked every early source (again) I could find. They all pointed back to Dwight and Woolsey, as above. Well, perhaps they had access to some family information that is no longer available. That is possible. But I wasn't about to give up. Then I found a reference to the Delafield Genealogy by General Delafield, who had a short reference to the Woolsey family. He said that George Woolsey was baptized in 1616 in St. Lawrence Parish, in Yarmouth. You can imagine my excitement as I prepared to search the St. Lawrence Parish in Yarmouth! However, I soon discovered that there is NO St. Lawrence Parish in Yarmouth. Back to square one. I then discovered that there was a St. Lawrence Parish in Ipswich, Suffolk County, England, where the Cardinal, Thomas Wolsey, was from. So, I carefully and assiduously studied the St. Lawrence Parish Registers in Ipswich, but found no 1616 date with Woolseys. In fact, I never found very many Woolseys at all. I then checked out the 27 Oct 1616 date again for the St. Lawrence Church in Ipswich, but found nothing. Back to square one again. But I was convinced that George Woolsey was born in Yarmouth, because the Dutch records most often meant "born at" when they used the word "VAN". So back to the Yarmouth Records, this time searching for the 1616 date. At that time, Yarmouth was known as Great Yarmouth. I decided to check the Registers of the largest Parish in Great Yarmouth. I had already checked the Registers for the 27 Oct 1610 date and had found nothing. This was a very large church, with several ministers and helpers and clerks. The handwriting was very small and cramped and crowded close together on a page. To make it more difficult, it required a "high-magnification" microfilm reader to read this small script. But I started looking for a christening on 15 May 1616 in the Registers of St. Nicholas Parish, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England. You can imagine my surprise, my joy, my relief when I found, under Christenings, on 15 May 1616, the following: George Wolsey 15 May 1616, son of George and ffrances I then found the christenings of two of George's brothers but that is a different story. Because of this find (and others in Norfolk) I have discounted all Woolsey information that has been printed, published, written, handed down, conjectured, imagined, made up, before George Woolsey, the Settler, our Immigrant ancestor, before he came to America. Benjamin W. Dwight titled his early genealogy, "The Descendants of Rev. Benjamin Woolsey of Dosoris". I believe that here is where some careless researchers got the idea that there was a Rev. Benjamin Woolsey of Yarmouth to America. There was NO Rev. Benjamin Woolsey of Yarmouth. There was NO Rev. Benjamin Woolsey who married a HOOK girl. There was NO Rev. Benjamin Woolsey, an uncle of George Woolsey. There is no documented line from our Immigrant ancestor George Woolsey back to the Cardinal, Thomas Wolsey. People have taken a few names, stuck them together and called it a "pedigree". I will repeat my earlier offer, of $100, for a documented line back from our Immigrant ancestor to the Cardinal, Thomas Wolsey. Well, enough for now. Must get to "Millionaire". I am trying very hard not to confuse anyone. Sincerely, Wilford W. Whitaker

To any interested Woolsey researcher: I received an excellent post from Gail Hammond, who has been very helpful in the past. I will address myself to only the following from Gail: Wilford: Are you familiar with the work, From Whence We Came, by Ann Woolsey Jackson? She shows our lineage as follows (I have many names and dates but will focus on my line for now): Thomas Woolsey of Ipswich, County Suffolk, England. His son -- Rev. Benjamin Woolsey, came to America from Yarmouth, England, via Holland to Plymouth, Mass. in 1623. His son -- George (Joris) Woolsey, "The Settler, born October 27, 1610 at Yarmouth, England. Married Rebecca Cornell December 9, 1647 at Jamaica, L.I. Died August 17, 1698 at Flushing, L.I. and buried in the old cemetery north of Jamaica. Gail, thank you for your post and for your interest and help. I have not seen Ann Woolsey Jackson's work and would be interested in seeing or purchasing a copy of it. However, she has perpetuated the erroneous conclusions that some early writers on the Woolsey family made. Our Woolseys do not come from Ipswich, Suffolk Co, England, though there is a large contingent of Woolseys from Suffolk County. Our Woolseys come from Great Yarmouth (and vicinity), Norfolk, England. To give you an idea of the enormity of trying to find these Woolseys, in Norfolk County alone, from 1360 to 1600 there are 80 Woolsey wills that need to be read and evaluated. Notice that Ann Woolsey Jackson does not "document" her information, she only repeats what has been stated before. No one, that I have found, not even the earliest writers of the Woolsey family, have used documentation for what they stated. George Woolsey, son of George Woolsey (Wolsely) and Ffrances Robberts, was baptised in 1616 in Yarmouth, Norfolk, England. In most areas during that time, parents tried to have their children baptized (christened) as soon after birth as possible, usually within a few days. There is no Thomas Woolsey, grandfather of George in the Yarmouth (Norfolk) records. There is no Reverend Benjamin Woolsey of Yarmouth "who was a dissenter" (as the Pilgrims, during the 1600's. There was a Rev. Benjamin Woolsey, dissenter, but he was active during the middle 1760's in Norfolk. I have searched every church record in Yarmouth and surrounding records and did not find a 1610 baptism for George Woolsey (or for any Woolsey for that matter). That involved dozens of churches. I have assiduously studied every early record that I could find, trying to determine how some of these mistakes were made and can only conclude that they were made by the two earliest writers of the Woolsey family, Theodore W. Dwight and Theodore Dwight Woolsey. Where they got their information they do not say. enough for now. Sincerely, Wilford W. Whitaker

Ray Nelson sent the following, to which I reply: James Walter Woolsey does not "document" one instance of any George Woolsey's involvement before 1647. In fact, in his later works, he had begun to doubt the existence of any "Uncle Benjamin Woolsey" and so stated. I'm not acquainted with any Dangerfield book (1945) but there was a Delafield book, but again, he only "re-stated" the works by Dwight & Woolsey, which gave no documentation for their statements. I repeat, there is nothing in the records of Norfolk, England, that indicate that George Woolsey was born in 1610. I have found the christening date for George Woolsey as 1616, which would make him only 7 years old in 1623, a little young for indenture, especially as George Woolsey's father did not die until 1629, when we can expect the break-up of the family, from the Rotterdam Orphan's records. George Woolsey himself did not really know the date of his birth, as he said he "was age 26 " in 1647, making his birth date as 1621. There is no record extant of which I am aware, that George Woolsey was ever "apprenticed" to Isaac Allerton. It is true that Isaac Allerton was on the Mayflower in 1620. It is also true that Allerton was the "business manager" for the Plymouth Colony. However, as Allerton was using the credit of the Plymouth Colony to further his own financial interests, especially in the Kennebec area, the Plymouth Colony finally "fired" him and Allerton went to work in much the same capacity for the Dutch at New Amsterdam, where he begins to appear in the records of New Amsterdam, with George Woolsey. Ray, I would appreciate documentation of "earlier transaction" between Allerton and Woolsey. Also, I have seen no documentation of an "Uncle Benjamin" Woolsey. The only Woolsey in the early records is the Reverend Benjamin Woolsey of Dosoris, Long Island, two generations later. Also there is no Hook girl that married into any Woolsey family during that early period. Ray, thank you for your input. We may be able to iron this all out with open dialogue. Sincerely, Wilford W. Whitaker ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Nelson To: mwdiet@home.com Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 1:33 PM Subject: Joris immigration Hi again, I noticed the following on the list: 1623 George Woolsey, to Plymouth 1262:339 973 W2cm Colket: Founders of Early American Families 1975 [I have included the above three dates because they are indelibly marked in the records. However, I do not believe that our ancestor George Woolsey, the Immigrant, was in America before 1646, although there is a record that indicates that he may have been here as early as 1643. www.] It would seem that "The Settler" , the James Walter Woolsey (1981) and rhe (1945) Dangerfiield books have stuck to the story that Joris was indentured to Isaac Allerten in 1623 at Plymouth at age 13. Some said his uncle, the Rev Benjamin Woolsey came with him. I have seen mention of merchant transactions earlier than your dates that he performed for Allerton. All other dates in New Amsterdam of course begin with his Flushing land purchase, marriage to Rebecca Cornell in 1647, Stuyvesant Fire Warden appointment (1648), cadet in the Berger Guards (1653) etc. I agree that it is tough to document the years between 1623 and 1647, but there just seems to be too much detail to bring me to strong possibility of your view. With best wishes, Ray Nelson

To any interested Woolsey researcher: I thought I would update the Woolsey Immigration List: (Best results may be obtained if you "maximize" your screen): WOOLSEY IMMIGRANTS TO AMERICA Passenger and Immigration Lists Index A Guide to Published Arrival Records of about 500,000 Passengers who Came to the United States and Canada in the 17th, 18th, and 19th Centuries NYG&B Record 4:143. July 1873. 1623 George Woolsey, New Amsterdam Dwight, Benjamin W. The Descendants of Rev. Benjamin Woolsey, of Dosoris (Glen Cove), L. I. 1623 George Woolsey n.a.; New York 9448:75 973 W2v 1976 Virkus: Immigrant Ancestors, 1976 1623 George Woolsey, to Plymouth 1262:339 973 W2cm Colket: Founders of Early American Families 1975 [I have included the above three dates because they are indelibly marked in the records. However, I do not believe that our ancestor George Woolsey, the Immigrant, was in America before 1646, although there is a record that indicates that he may have been here as early as 1643. www.] 1646 GorgSealed and deliuered in the psence of George Baxter, Thomas Willett, Gorg Woolsey. Woolsey, New Amsterdam Shurtleff: Records of the Colony of New Plymouth in New England. Vol. 2:133 [176]. A witness. 1647 George Woolsey 26; New York 8198:297 973. B2ng 57:04 National Genealogical Society Quarterly 1969 1666 John Woolsey n.a.; Maryland 8510:516 975.2 W2s Skordas: The Early Settlers of Maryland 1968 1668 Gilbert Woolsey, born about 1668 Huntington: History of Stamford, CT 1979 This actually should be Gilbert Wooster, who was of about that early date. Huntington made a mistake here. There was a Gilbert Woolsey of Stamford, but was of 1668 and later. Huntington probably transposed the date and concluded there was an early Gilbert Woolsey! 1692 - John Woolsey of Hempstead. Now here is a real enigma. Who is this John Woolsey who appears in Hempstead, Queens County, NY? 1672-9 Mary Woolsey, Rappahanock, Va 6221:113,203 975.5 R2h supp Nugent: Cavaliers and Pioneers 1977 1703 Jacob Wolsey n.a.; of King William Co, Virginia 6223:76 975.5 R2n Eliz. (wife) 1705 John Woolsyes, from Lancashire in Old England. 974.821 K2w 2:64 History of Bucks Co, PA. Church record of the 17th & 18th centuries. Watring & Wright. Certificate of John Woolsyes from FRIENDS in Lancashire in Old England. 10 May/5 Oct 1705. 1736 Mary Woolsy, Kent Co., Maryland 6419.10:83 975.2B2mb vol. 34.1 Maryland Genealogical Society Bulletin 1993 Oszakiewski: Convict Servants in Kent Co. Md 1770 George Wolsey (Warwickshire) 1217:42 973. W2c 9:42 Coldham: Bonded Passengers to America 1983 1784 Abraham Woolsey, Westchester 8750.40:254 971.6 W2s Smith: Nova Scotia Immigrants. As Westchester County, New York, was a hotbed of Loyalist activity, this Abraham Woolsey was most likely one of the New York Woolseys, not yet fully identified. 1789 George Wolsey, b. Belfast, Ireland Beers, J. B. HISTORY OF GREENE COUNTY, NEW YORK. J. B. Beers, publishers. 1884. p. 191. Md in Trinity Church, NY City, 1789, Jane Panton, died in Athens, Greene County, New York. 1804 Phil Jacob Wolsey n.a.; Philadelphia, Pa. 1804:590 Filby: Passenger & Immigration Lists Index 1850 Robert Woolsey, 20 m, Ireland FHL# 443549 Living in family of Elizabeth Woolsey, 60 f, Ireland. 1850 Census Fall River, Bristol County, Massachusetts. p. 113 # - 1843. 1850 Roswell Wolsey, 26 m, Canada FHL# 443573 1850 Census Washington Twp, McComb County, Michigan. p. 128 #320-329. 1850 John E. Woolsey, 22 m, England FHL# 444324 1850 Census Warwarsing, Ulster County, New York. p. 72 #1076-1140. 1850 James Woolsey, 31 m, Scotland FHL# 017093 1850 Census 2nd Ward Brooklyn, Kings County, New York p. 125 #569-795. 1851 T. D. Woolsey n.a.; San Francisco, Cal. 7158:169 Mrs. S. Woolsey n.a. Filby: Passenger & Immigration Lists Index 1859 Clarence J. 44; no port mentioned 6003:39 Filby: Passenger & Immigrations Lists Index 1860 J. Wolsey; 40, male, England FHL# 803055 1860 Census Placerville Twp, Eldorado County, California. p. 866 # 567-567. 1860 James Woolsey, 20 m, England FHL# 803240 1860 Census New Millford, Winnebago Co, Illinois, p. 473 # 3411-3160. 1860 Robert Woolsey, 45 m, England FHL #803364 1860 Census Owensboro, Daviess County, Kentucky p. 861 #271-276. 1860 John Woolsey, 38 m, England FHL# 803563 1860 Census Augusta Twp, Washtenaw County, Michigan. p. 253 #1462-1446. 1860 Robert Woolsey, 41 m, England FHL# 803563 1860 Census Ypsilanti City, Washtenaw County, Michigan. p. 851 #1219-1222. 1860 Mitts Woolsey, 26 m, Bavaria FHL# 803559 1860 Census 1st Ward, St. Clair, St. Clair County, Michigan. p. 611 #1566-1535. 1860 Peter Woolsey, 18 m, Germany FHL# 803615 1860 Census Jefferson City, Cole County, Missouri. p. 374 #1222-1253. 1860 James Woasley, 50 m, England FHL# 803690 1860 Census Belleville Twp, Essex County, New Jersey p. 291 #340-345. 1870 James Woolsey, 31 m, England FHL# 545789 1870 Census Union Grove Twp, Whitesides County, Illinois. p. 350 #192-193. 1870 William Woolsey, 70 m, England FHL# 545793 Charles Woolsey, 27 m, England 1870 Census Rockford Twp, Winnebago County, William Woolsey, 19 m, England Illinois. pp. 76, 72, 65. 1870 Walter Woolsey, 28 m, England FHL# 545756 1870 Census Harvard Twp, McHenry County, Illinois, p. 242 #84-91. 1870 James Woolsey, 19 m, Canada FHL# 545699 1870 Census 4th Ward, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. p. 7 #75-114. 1870 Robert Wolsey, 28 m, England FHL# 545700 1870 Census 6th Ward, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. p. 530 #2872-3870. 1870 Martin Woolsey, 22 m, England FHL# 545706 1870 Census 14th Ward, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois p. 576 $1855-1563. 1870 William J. Woolsey, 22 m, Norway FHL# 545582 1870 Census Nicholaus Twp, Sutter County, California. p. 113 #131-119. 1870 Robert Woolsey, 37 m, Canada FHL# 552321 1870 Census St. Louis, St. Louis County, Missouri, page 725 #496-880. 1870 Joseph Wolsey, 26 m, Denmark FHL# 552333 1870 Census West Point Twp, Pah Ute County, Nevada p. 310 #21-16. 1870 William John Woolsey, 28 m, Ireland FHL# 552351 1870 Census Englewood, Bergen County, New Jersey, p. 240 #124-154. 1870 William Woolsey, 50 m, Ireland FHL# 552366 1870 Census 6th Ward, Jersey City, Hudson County, New Jersey p. 72 #429-1240. 1870 William Woolsey, 50 m, England FHL# 552372 1870 Census New Brunswick, New Brunswick County, New Jersey p. 123 #225-368. 1870 Charles Wolzie, 40 m, Germany FHL# 552794 1870 Census 14th Ward, Pittsburgh, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. p. 498. #197-244. ENDNOTES

To Kerry Fleming and interested Woolsey researchers: Hi, Kerry - Tell me about too many Samuels. I have 50 Samuel Woolseys, 9 Samuel Woosleys and 1 Samuel Wolsey in my database. Kerry, this is a problem that I spent a great deal of time researching in the records of Halifax County, Virginia, and in Whitely, Grayson and Edmonson Counties, KY. This is the type of problem that makes the Woolsey research interesting and frustrating, at the same time. When we say that someone was born in Fincastle Co, VA, we are basically saying that they were born in KY. So we have to look back into VA for Samuel born 1775 in Halifax Co, VA. In VA we find the following three, distinct families: 1. The family and related connections of the Rev. Thomas Woolsey from Westchester & Ulster Counties, NY, to Washington Co., VA bef 1771. Some of his children came with him at that time and some came later. This would include others not descended from Rev. Thomas, such as William Woolsey and John Woolsey who went into Greene County, TN. but are all descended from our immigrant ancestor George Woolsey of Long Island, New York. 2. The family of Moses Woolsey who appears in the Virginia records in the early 1700's, who came directly from England to Virginia. He had a large family, mostly in Virginia, to North and South Carolina. 3. The family of an old and distinguished family from England, the Woosley or Woseley family, which had early beginnings in England. They appear in the early Virginia records, but are a separate and distinct family from our Woolsey family. It is to this last family that Samuel Woosley who married Phoebe Bailely [I have dau of Thomas Bailey] belongs. The following is not completely proved yet, which is why I hesitate to put it out on the web, but I'm sure enough that he does not belong to our Woolsey family that I will put it out, with the provision that one should take it with a great deal of caution. Thomas Moses WOOSLEY of Halifax Co, VA md Elizabeth Waters [Walters] abt 1748 ?. They possibly had the following children: 1. William WOOSLEY md Susanna Tribble 2. Joshua WOOSLEY 3. Aaron WOOSLEY 4. Moses WOOSLEY md Elizabeth Butler 5. Benjamin WOOSLEY md Nancy Meadows 6. ELIJAH WOOSLEY md Nancy Chesher 7. Susanna WOOSLEY 8. David WOOSLEY 9. Marion WOOSLEY 10. James WOOSLEY md Elizabeth ________ 11. Samuel WOOSLEY (1775-1852) md Phoebe (1779-1866), d/o Thomas Bailey. Both are buried in the DAN WOOSLEY CEMETERY in Grayson Co, KY. They had a large family. Most of these families moved from Halifax Co, VA to Whitely, Edmondson, and Grayson Co, KY. This was rather confusing because the Rev. Thomas Woolsey's son George Woolsey and wife Mary Hopkins and his descendants settled in Edmondson Co, KY, but they were on the Green River, near the Mammouth Caves, and then went into Indiana and/or Missouri. Success to all. Sincerely, Wilford W. Whitaker ----- Original Message ----- From: <GYNRN@aol.com> To: <WOOLSEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 7:25 PM Subject: Too many Samuels > OK if Samuel who married Cassandra GILBERT is son of John Woolsey and Sarah > Oliphant, who is the father of Samuel WOOLSEY b 6 jan 1776 Fincastle Co Va > who married Phoebe BAILEY (D of John BAILEY)d 14 Apr 1852 ? I had him son > of John and Sarah O. I get confused easily!!! > > Kerry fleming > >

Just surfing.. and found this... Hope it helps someone... Jill Morris county, NJ http://www.rootsweb.com/~njmorris/cemeteries/succ-pres4o.htm PLUMSTEAD Alfred L. 09 Oct 1891 PLUMSTEAD Mattie 11 Oct 1891