>>To: Aunt Mary Lou >> >> I am reviewing some of the Doroles MATHENY GUCCIARDO book and >> one surprise immediately. My Aunt Mary Lou & I talking about some of my >> BLOOM findings speculated that the MATHENY name seemed Irish to >> us. WRONG. If these MATHENY researchers are correct the original form >> of the name was MATHENIA and they originated in Burgundy, France. The >> book includes one of those very long deep into time family lines dating >> back to 1080. I always view these with suspicion but will not worry >> about it yet. Am going to concentrate on the family in Virginia >> first. What I do find interesting is that they settled in old Surry Co. >> Va. and it is increasingly likely my WALL line came out of there via a >> Joseph WALL so I have two lines to research there now. >> >> Also, something I did not know, not sure if Aunt Mary Lou does >> or not, but Daniel WOOLFORD had a brother John and he married Jane BLOOM >> sister of Elizabeth BLOOM and they were daughters of Peter BLOOM the >> elder as I am going to call him for the for seeable future <Janice HOFF >> informed me of this>. So the WOOLFORDs and BLOOMS were tied together in >> the next generation as tightly as the BUTCHERs and BLOOMs were the >> previous one it turns out. >> >>Daniel MATHENY s/o James MATHENY & Elizabeth GAINES >>b. <ca 1734 date not in book but based on Rev War records I located in an >>index I think he is the match> >>d. 1803 >>m. 1) Isabella COPAS 2) Judah unknown >>NOTE: The book does not give death date for Isabella nor does it assign >>children to either wife >> >>1. Thomas MATHENY ????-1793 >>2. Moses MATHENY <lived in Bourbon Ky 1820-1830> >>3. Andrew MATHENY <no dates given> >>4. Sarah MATHENY 1771-1871 m. James SATTERFIELD >> They include an interview of Sarah published 1871 where she says >> she was raised in Bartley Co. Va. near Charlestown and she >> said she was born Sarah MATHENA. James & Sarah removed to >> Chenoweth Fork, Pike Co. Ohio and she says in the interview she >> has 16 children and 102 grandchildren!!! >>5. Ellender MATHENY <no dates given> >>6. Anna MATHENY <no dates given> m. 5 June 1792 John STAGLE >>7. Elizabeth <no dates given> m. 1) 21 Nov 1793 John WHALAND 2) 22 July >>1799 Foster COLLINS >>8. Mary MATHENY <no dates given> m. 3 Dec 1809 William Wood COOPER >>9. Judah MATHENY <no dates given> m. 1) 13 Feb 1805 William TYLER 2) 5 >>Feb ____ Abraham AMOS >>10. Rachel MATHENY <no dates given> m. 28 Sept 1790 Peter BLOOMEE/BLONEE >> source: Will book B. pg. 217 Bourbon Co., (KY) Estates; court & >> other records. Tax list 1790. Ky. census Mar 1791. >> Mary married in Hardin Co. KY all others in Bourbon Ky. >> Son-in-law Daniel TURNEY named in will >> >> Will of Daniel MATHENY book b. pg. 217 >> son-in-law Daniel TURNEY; sons Moses, Andrew, daughters >> Ellender, Anna, Sarah, Elizabeth, Mary, Judah; wife Judah; April >> 6 1803 will probated Jan 1804 witnesses: Sally MAYS, John NEAL >> >> Remember the Congressional records indicate Peter BLOOM & Rachel >> MATHENY removed to "Upper Louisiana" <St. Genevieve Co. MO.> in 1797 >> which would account for Rachel not being named in the will. It was not >> uncommon to essentially give children their inheritance when they moved >> away by helping provision the family for travel. Have seen this happen >> before in other families with children who migrated west, never to be >> seen again usually. >> >> This book however drives me bonkers the way the material is >> organized using the old numerical system prevalent in the pre-computer >> era. If it were chronological wouldn't be so bad but it jumps around >> and gives me fits figuring out generations as a result. It appears the >> line upon arrival in America is purported to be: >> >>1. Daniel METTENEYE b. 1638 London England d. 1689 Virginia m. Sarah >>WENTWORTH >>2. William Wentworth MATHENIA b. 1666 Stafford Co. Va. d. Nov 1705 >>Stafford Co. Va. m. 1691 Frances NORGRAVES MASON >>3. Daniel MATHENIA b. 1693 Stafford Co. Va. d. 1747 Stafford Co. Va. m. >>1712 Mary ROUTT CROSBY >>4. James MATHENIA m. Elizabeth GAINES <see above> >>NOTE: it appears the wives birth names were NORGRAVES & ROUTT implying >>consecutive generations married widows?!? Or perhaps they survived their >>husbands and remarried afterwards?!? Unclear to me at this time. >> >> Enough for now running out of steam, feedback appreciated, >> >> james wall >> >>p.s. Velda, what is your tie in to Peter BLOOM the Elder, you never did say? >> >>p.p.s: none of this verified by me yet, most of this from the Doroles >>MATHENY GUCCIARDO book unless I indicate otherwise.