Dear Nicki I had a search through the 1881 census index for Hertfordshire and could not find this Fox family. I had a search through the 1881 national index and I found this family in London, but guess the mother's name is just coincidence as not much else fits.: Dwelling: 57 Nightingale Rd Census Place: Hackney, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341065 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0304 Folio 46 Page 8 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Wm. H. FOX M 46 M London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Commercial Traveller Paper Harriett H. FOX M 40 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife Chas. W. FOX U 20 M London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Commercial Clerk Marian L. FOX U 19 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Percy FOX U 17 M London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Commercial Clerk Flora H. WOODEN U 15 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Sister Occ: Scholar Do you know where the family was in 1881 ? This would give Harriet Woolford's age & birthplace Regards Peter Lowe Hertford, England Email: Peter.Lowe@Bigfoot.Com Web Site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pnlowe/index.htm > The information I have is...... > > Charles William John FOX > Born about 1861 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, England > Parents: Christopher FOX and Harriet WOOLFORD > > Charles William John FOX was a master painter and his father Christopher was > a Journeyman Carpenter. > > Charles William John FOX married Ellen MORRIS at St Albans, Hertfordshire > about 1881.