I received the following e-mail from Kathy who subscribes to the Woods list. As it may be of interest to subscribers of both the Woods and Daniel lists I am posting it on both lists. As most of this relates to South African research, I am also posting it on the South African list. Hi everybody out there in "Cyberland" researching Daniel and Woods, and especially Kathy, Kathy, you wrote as follows: "I read your email on the Wood's list and I too have ancestors with the names of Woods and Daniel. Thanks to the kindness of a fellow genealogist on the net, I was provided with quite a bit of information on the Daniel side, but I am just starting the Woods search. My maternal gr, gr, gr, grandmother was Celia Emaline Daniel Gentry, born 10/14/1849 in Shelbyville, IL. Her father was Amon Daniel, born 04/29/1807 in TN. (His wife's name was Mary Forbes). Her grandfather was Bazel Daniel, birthdate unknown, lived in North Carolina. Many of the Daniel family are buried in the Spain Cemetery, Shelby County, IL. I have the name of a genealogist who works at the Visitor Center in Shelbyville, IL. She told me she had done research on the Daniel family and to write and let her know what information I had and she would try to fill in with what she had. In the meantime I received the above info and never got around to writing to her. I don't know if and what she charges. You migh! t want to look into that first. Her name is Helen Tregillis, 112 First Grand Avenue, P.O. Box 107, Cowden, IL 63422. Phone # (217) 783-2610. I have obtained the death certificate of my maternal gr, grandfather, Wiley N. Woods who was born 03/25/1873 in Bates County, MO. The only other info I have is his father's name, which is Absolom Woods. I am going to have to go the Census sheets or contact the Bates County Court House for additional information, I guess." Here's my contribution to this enquiry: The first family I started researching was my paternal line, Daniel. The family I am researching were resident in Dublin during the eighteenth century, and two member of the family were successively Vicars of Clane in County Kildare. The second of these, the Reverend Richard Daniel, married Sarah, daughter of Sir George Ripton, in 1752. By her he had two sons, Richard and George. The Reverend Richard was himself the only son of his father, the Reverend John Daniel, and it does not seem as if this is the line I am descended from, but rather a collateral branch. The Reverend John Daniel had a nephew Francis Daniel, who was a jeweller and silversmith in Dublin, and who in 1755 married Elizabeth, widow of David Byas. Francis had three sons, Sampson, John and Richard. John continued in the jewellery business, married firstly in 1776 Elizabeth Clark, and seems to have had a son Peter Clark Daniel, also a jeweller, who in 1802 married ! Elizabeth Jackson. He and Elizabeth the produced a second son, Sampson O' Malia (O'Mally) Daniel and a daughter Julia Daniel. John Daniel married secondly in 1795 Sarah Nevin, and had a son, John Nivens (or Nevin) Daniel. These four children (Peter Clark Daniel, Sampson O"Malia Daniel, Julia Turvey 'nee Daniel' and John Nivens Daniel) came to South Africa in 1820 aboard the "Sir George Osborne" as part of the immigration scheme to settle British subjects in the Eastern Cape Province of South Africa. It is interesting to note that Peter Clarke Daniel brought both his wife and another woman, Ann Mitchley with him. His offspring were registered as either Daniel or Mitchley, depending on who the mother was. Thus, direct descendants of John Daniel, the Dublin jeweller bear the names Daniel, Mitchley and Turvey (and of course many other names as daughters married and produced children). Where does the surname Woods fit in? John Nevins Daniel married firstly Sarah Marsh by whom he had a son, John Thomas Daniel who became a Wesleyen Missionary and married Mary Ann Sephton. They had a son, St. Patrick O"Shaughnessy O'Brien Daniel Who married Catharina Helena De Wet. They had a son, John Patrick Daniel, who married Magdalene Emilie May Woods. (These are my parents). James Woods, a cheesemonger from London, and his wife Ann Pontifex' youngest son, Edwin Woods emigrated to South Africa late last century. Edwin Woods married Emilie Harrington Cook and their third child, Charles Aldridge Woods married Sara Johanna Eksteen. Charles and Sarah's third child was Magdalene Emilie May Woods (my mother). I hope that this answers Kathy's question and is of some interest to other who may be researching the same surnames, or related surnames. Regards, Dan Daniel Durban, Kwa Zulu Natal, South Africa E-mail: cldaniel@mweb.co.za Researching: DANIEL, WOODS, PEDDLE, NORMAND