This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carrollroy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.woodmansee/126.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The information she gave was that Martha's death certificate said her mother was Bara Brightrall (who was born in Canada). She said she could be the mother of Alan F, who I don't have as a child of Miles and Phianna. She also stated that the 1850 census didn't have the children in order. Does order make a difference on a census? Every other tree I've seen has Martha as Phianna and Miles daughter. Thanks for your quick response to my first message! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.