Hi Everyone, with the help from Huelwyn, and Jeff, I believe I found my William John Davies, here is my next request. WJ's dad was John J DAVIES. according to the 1901 he was born 1871 or 2ish. The following census returns are from the 1881 census, one John J born 72 one in 73. Can anyone tell me if Llangyfelach, Glamorgan is a subdivision of Swansea, if it's not do you think it would be safe to say the other one is mine. That may be a daft question but I don't know how else to backtrack, that costs little or better yet no money. Dwelling: 60 Llangyfelach Road Bryn Terrace Census Place: Clase, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342289 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5352 Folio 57 Page 108 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas DAVIES M 48 M Llangyfelach, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Head Occ: Engine Fitter Mary DAVIES M 50 F Llangyfelach, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Wife Occ: Engine Fitter Wife Mary Ann DAVIES U 27 F Llangyfelach, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Daur Occ: Dressmaker John Jones DAVIES U 9 M Llangyfelach, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Morgan HARRY U 22 M Llangyfelach, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Boarder Occ: Clerk Dwelling: Nr Penuel Census Place: Loughor, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342294 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5370 Folio 60 Page 53 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Ann DAVIES W 34 F Llangledwen, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Head Occ: Dressmaker John J. DAVIES 8 M Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Thomas J. DAVIES 7 M Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Martha H. DAVIES 4 F Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Daur William T. DAVIES U 16 M Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Nephew Occ: Coal Miner William FRANCIS M 37 M Maesteg, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Boarder Occ: Blacksmith At Tinworks Dianne West, listowner, diehard1967@shaw.ca DOWNES-L@rootsweb.com DOWNES-D@rootsweb.com SCARLETT-L@rootsweb.com SCARLETT-D@rootsweb.com

Hi again Llangyfelach was/is the largest parish in Swansea. Heulwen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diehard" <diehard1967@shaw.ca> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:07 AM Subject: [Swansea] John J Davies > Hi Everyone, with the help from Huelwyn, and Jeff, I believe I found my > William John Davies, here is my next request. WJ's dad was John J DAVIES. > according to the 1901 he was born 1871 or 2ish. The following census returns > are from the 1881 census, one John J born 72 one in 73. > Can anyone tell me if Llangyfelach, Glamorgan is a subdivision of Swansea, > if it's not do you think it would be safe to say the other one is mine. That > may be a daft question but I don't know how else to backtrack, that costs > little or better yet no money. > Dwelling: 60 Llangyfelach Road Bryn Terrace > Census Place: Clase, Glamorgan, Wales > Source: FHL Film 1342289 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5352 Folio 57 Page > 108 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Thomas DAVIES M 48 M Llangyfelach, Glamorgan, Wales > Rel: Head > Occ: Engine Fitter > Mary DAVIES M 50 F Llangyfelach, Glamorgan, Wales > Rel: Wife > Occ: Engine Fitter Wife > Mary Ann DAVIES U 27 F Llangyfelach, Glamorgan, Wales > Rel: Daur > Occ: Dressmaker > John Jones DAVIES U 9 M Llangyfelach, Glamorgan, Wales > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Morgan HARRY U 22 M Llangyfelach, Glamorgan, Wales > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Clerk > > > Dwelling: Nr Penuel > Census Place: Loughor, Glamorgan, Wales > Source: FHL Film 1342294 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5370 Folio 60 Page > 53 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Ann DAVIES W 34 F Llangledwen, Pembroke, Wales > Rel: Head > Occ: Dressmaker > John J. DAVIES 8 M Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Thomas J. DAVIES 7 M Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Martha H. DAVIES 4 F Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales > Rel: Daur > William T. DAVIES U 16 M Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales > Rel: Nephew > Occ: Coal Miner > William FRANCIS M 37 M Maesteg, Glamorgan, Wales > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Blacksmith At Tinworks > > Dianne West, listowner, diehard1967@shaw.ca > DOWNES-L@rootsweb.com > DOWNES-D@rootsweb.com > SCARLETT-L@rootsweb.com > SCARLETT-D@rootsweb.com > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > >