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    1. [Swansea] Gazey/Mazey murder C May 16 1881 Trial Swansea Assizes
    2. Stella Watkin

    3. Hi folks I am trying to help someone in Canada find out more about her GAZEY relatives and can't find a trace of these brothers, Benjamin, David, who were on trial for murder in Swansea in the 1881 census (or mother Jane): THE TIMES, MONDAY, May 16, 1881 CHARGE OF MURDER AGAINST TWO CHILDREN. At Swansea Assizes, before Mr. Justice Cave, Benjamin Gazey aged 11 and David Gazey, age nine, were on Saturday indicted for the wilful murder of John Thomas, aged ten, and Jane Gazey, mother of the prisoners, was charged as an accessory after the fact. The deceased, son of a shoemaker at Kidwelly, had been sent with a pair of boots, for which he received 10s. He was last seen alive entering the prisoners' house by the side of the high road. Search being made, his body was found two days afterwards in a ditch at the back of the house, the skull being entirely beaten in. The three prisoners told a story to the effect that deceased had fallen from a swing and had been killed and that they buried him, being terrified ; but medical evidence showed that the injuries could not have been so caused. The prisoners were found in possession of the change for the half-sovereign which deceased has received. About 20 witnesses were examined. The Judge summed up impartially, and the jury, after some consideration, returned a verdict of acquittal. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Would anyone who lives in Swansea do her the great favour of looking at the local Swansea/Kidwelly newspaper for the date circa May 16 1881, to see if there are more details. I've now found the Gazey family in 1881 census awaiting trial in Carmarthen prison, entered as Mazey in error?: Institution: "H. M. Prison" Spillman St Census Place: Carmarthen St Peter, Carmarthen, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342300 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5397 Folio 78 Page 11 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William HENDON U 19 M Bradford, York, England Rel: Prisoner Occ: Shoemaker Ann MORSE M 55 F Fishguard, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Needlewoman Ellen JONES U 57 F Amlwch, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Hawker John EDWARDS U 19 M Llandilo Fawr, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Labourer David THOMAS M 45 M Blaenfoes, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Shopkeeper (Grocer) William JONES M 21 M Llanstephan, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Labourer James THOMAS M 34 M Carmarthen, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Hawker William ROBINSON M 33 M Pembroke, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Mason Thomas WILLIAMS M 22 M Aberystwith, Cardigan, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Stone Polisher (Mason) William HARLEY U 30 M Southampton, Sussex, England Rel: Prisoner Occ: Tailor ((Tatlor)) Jane DAVIES U 31 F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: General Serv Aaron THOMAS U 22 M Llandilo Fawr, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Engine Driver William DAVIES M 40 M Penally, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Labourer William THOMAS M 35 M Fishguard, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Ship Carpenter John THOMAS W 29 M Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Groom William H. SUTTON M 53 M Haverfordwest, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Clerk John FRANCIS U 39 M Scotland Rel: Prisoner Occ: Tailor David MORRIES M 33 M Llandilo Fawr, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Blacksmith Evan DAVIES W 25 M Penbryn, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Labourer Jane MAZEY M 34 F Cardigan, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Dressmaker David MAZEY 11 M Llanelly, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Sholar Benjamin MAZEY 9 M Llanelly, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Scholar David BOWEN M 44 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Shoemaker William GRIFFITHS U 20 M Merthyr Tydvil, Wales Rel: Prisoner Occ: Labourer John PARNALL U 30 M Bath, Gloucester, England Rel: Prisoner Occ: Labourer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I believe this is the family that lost John Thomas in Kedwelly: Census Place: Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342296 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5377 Folio 71 Page 32 Marr Age Sex Birthplace David THOMAS M 52 M Llandefeilog, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Head Occ: Shoemaker Sarah THOMAS M 50 F Llangendeirn, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Wife Ann THOMAS 17 F Llandefeilog, Carmarthen, Wales Catherine THOMAS 15 F Llandefeilog, Carmarthen, Wales Sami THOMAS 8 M Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales or this one? Dwelling: Old Chapel Census Place: Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342296 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5377 Folio 79 Page 4 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Evan THOMAS M 41 M St Ishmael, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Head Occ: Boot & Shoa Maker Lettice THOMAS M 39 F St Ishmael, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Wife Occ: Boot & Shoe Maker Wife Mary THOMAS U 20 F St Ishmael, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Daur Occ: Employed at Tinworks Jane THOMAS 12 F Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Lettice THOMAS 7 F Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Peter THOMAS 5 M Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar William THOMAS 2 M Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Son (If anyone needs any 1881 census, Vital Records II, Pigot's London 1825, PO London 1850, First Fleet 1788 to Aus lookups, Bedfordshire Wills, I would be more than pleased to help you) -- Cheerio Stella in Deepest Beds stella.watkin@ntlworld.com St Albans http://www.stella.watkin.ukgateway.net/stalbans Luton Comes Alive http://www.stella.watkin.ukgateway.net/

    07/27/2002 01:20:38
    1. Re: [Swansea] Gazey/Mazey murder C May 16 1881 Trial Swansea Assizes
    2. Kaye Sutherland

    3. Hi Stella I'm interested also in what you have found because my ancestor was also a bootmaker/shoemaker from Swansea and his name was THOMAS. His daughter MARY was my g.g. grandmother who was on one of the first four ships leaving Gravesend in London for Canterbury, New Zealand. Can't remember his (the bootmaker) first name without checking it up although I have it somewhere. Wouldn't it be amazing if they were one in the same. I don't find much on here that directly links my ancestory but I think this might. I will contact you again next week when I have more time. Thankyou! Kaye Sutherland graphart@winshop.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stella Watkin" <stella.watkin@ntlworld.com> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 4:20 AM Subject: [Swansea] Gazey/Mazey murder C May 16 1881 Trial Swansea Assizes > Hi folks > > I am trying to help someone in Canada find out more about her GAZEY > relatives and can't find a trace of these brothers, Benjamin, David, who > were on trial for murder in Swansea in the 1881 census (or mother Jane): > > THE TIMES, MONDAY, May 16, 1881 > > CHARGE OF MURDER AGAINST TWO CHILDREN. > At Swansea Assizes, before Mr. Justice Cave, Benjamin Gazey aged 11 and > David Gazey, age nine, were on Saturday indicted for the wilful murder of > John Thomas, aged ten, and Jane Gazey, mother of the prisoners, was charged > as an accessory after the fact. The deceased, son of a shoemaker at > Kidwelly, had been sent with a pair of boots, for which he received 10s. He > was last seen alive entering the prisoners' house by the side of the high > road. Search being made, his body was found two days afterwards in a ditch > at the back of the house, the skull being entirely beaten in. The three > prisoners told a story to the effect that deceased had fallen from a swing > and had been killed and that they buried him, being terrified ; but medical > evidence showed that the injuries could not have been so caused. The > prisoners were found in possession of the change for the half-sovereign > which deceased has received. About 20 witnesses were examined. The Judge > summed up impartially, and the jury, after some consideration, returned a > verdict of acquittal. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Would anyone who lives in Swansea do her the great favour of looking at the > local Swansea/Kidwelly newspaper for the date circa May 16 1881, to see if > there are more details. > > > I've now found the Gazey family in 1881 census awaiting trial in Carmarthen prison, entered as Mazey in error?: > > Institution: "H. M. Prison" Spillman St > Census Place: Carmarthen St Peter, Carmarthen, Wales > Source: FHL Film 1342300 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5397 Folio 78 Page 11 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > William HENDON U 19 M Bradford, York, England > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Shoemaker > Ann MORSE M 55 F Fishguard, Pembroke, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Needlewoman > Ellen JONES U 57 F Amlwch, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Hawker > John EDWARDS U 19 M Llandilo Fawr, Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Labourer > David THOMAS M 45 M Blaenfoes, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Shopkeeper (Grocer) > William JONES M 21 M Llanstephan, Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Labourer > James THOMAS M 34 M Carmarthen, Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Hawker > William ROBINSON M 33 M Pembroke, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Mason > Thomas WILLIAMS M 22 M Aberystwith, Cardigan, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Stone Polisher (Mason) > William HARLEY U 30 M Southampton, Sussex, England > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Tailor ((Tatlor)) > Jane DAVIES U 31 F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: General Serv > Aaron THOMAS U 22 M Llandilo Fawr, Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Engine Driver > William DAVIES M 40 M Penally, Pembroke, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Labourer > William THOMAS M 35 M Fishguard, Pembroke, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Ship Carpenter > John THOMAS W 29 M Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Groom > William H. SUTTON M 53 M Haverfordwest, Pembroke, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Clerk > John FRANCIS U 39 M Scotland > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Tailor > David MORRIES M 33 M Llandilo Fawr, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Blacksmith > Evan DAVIES W 25 M Penbryn, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Labourer > Jane MAZEY M 34 F Cardigan, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Dressmaker > David MAZEY 11 M Llanelly, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Sholar > Benjamin MAZEY 9 M Llanelly, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Scholar > David BOWEN M 44 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Shoemaker > William GRIFFITHS U 20 M Merthyr Tydvil, Wales > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Labourer > John PARNALL U 30 M Bath, Gloucester, England > Rel: Prisoner > Occ: Labourer > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > I believe this is the family that lost John Thomas in Kedwelly: > Census Place: Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales > Source: FHL Film 1342296 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5377 Folio 71 Page > 32 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > David THOMAS M 52 M Llandefeilog, Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Head > Occ: Shoemaker > Sarah THOMAS M 50 F Llangendeirn, Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Wife > Ann THOMAS 17 F Llandefeilog, Carmarthen, Wales > Catherine THOMAS 15 F Llandefeilog, Carmarthen, Wales > Sami THOMAS 8 M Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales > or this one? > Dwelling: Old Chapel > Census Place: Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales > Source: FHL Film 1342296 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5377 Folio 79 Page > 4 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Evan THOMAS M 41 M St Ishmael, Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Head > Occ: Boot & Shoa Maker > Lettice THOMAS M 39 F St Ishmael, Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Wife > Occ: Boot & Shoe Maker Wife > Mary THOMAS U 20 F St Ishmael, Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Daur > Occ: Employed at Tinworks > Jane THOMAS 12 F Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Lettice THOMAS 7 F Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Peter THOMAS 5 M Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > William THOMAS 2 M Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Son > > (If anyone needs any 1881 census, Vital Records II, Pigot's London 1825, PO > London 1850, First Fleet 1788 to Aus lookups, Bedfordshire Wills, I would be > more than pleased to help you) > > -- > > Cheerio Stella in Deepest Beds > stella.watkin@ntlworld.com > > St Albans > http://www.stella.watkin.ukgateway.net/stalbans > Luton Comes Alive > http://www.stella.watkin.ukgateway.net/ > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > > >

    07/30/2002 06:15:19