According to census of 1881 in Swansea Town, Glamorgan, Wales, Evan Davies is married to Mary with four children. The children are Evan D., Martha, Mary H., and Ernest J. I know there are two more children born after this census, Albert and Stanley or Sidney. I know of Albert and his birth date, but we are lost on Stanley (or Sidney). We are not sure of his name. The family left Liverpool for the US in 1890. He had to be born before that departure we believe. Any help would be surely appreciated. thank you _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

Hi: Please add me to this look up. My Grandmother's name was Jane Matthews and lived at Thornhill. My Mother was born there in 1877 and her name was Harriet Mary Walters Llewellyn. Yes, she married a Welshman. Named Arthur Llewellyn and his father's name was Llewellyn Llewellyn. Dad was born in Swansea in 1880. Any help much appreciated. Bette in Indiana

Hi Listers, I know that this is not the Cardiff list but hoping that SKS has the correct disc's and would please look up who lived at both number's 52 and 126 Wellington Street, Cardiff. I'm hoping that the surnames os Saunders & Matthews will turn up. Many thanks for your kind help on this matter, Regards, Steve Saunders Researching: Crago, Kent Hicks, Weeks Cornwall (Coads Green, Liskeard) Saunders, Matthews or Mathews Glamorgan, Somerset Leonard, Munt London, Sheppards Bush, Hammersmith Valentine London Ashworth Cornwall, Yorkshire(Earby) Hart Dublin Hunter Liverpool Steve Saunders Researching: Crago, Kent Hicks, Weeks Cornwall ( Coads Green, Liskeard) Saunders, Matthews or Mathews Glamorgan, Somerset Leonard, Munt London, Sheppards Bush, Hammersmith Valentine London Ashworth Cornwall, Yorkshire(Earby) Hart Dublin Hunter Liverpool

Beware of the ZaCker.exe attachments, they contain a worm/virus. They come in emails with any of the following subjects: The content of the mail will be any of the following lines selected randomly in each messages: Test this game I wish u like it I have got this file for you Surprise !!! download this game & have fun ;) desktop maker ,you may need it ;) have you ever got a gift !? What women wants ! Don't waste any time ,Subscribe now Make your pc funny ! new program from my fun groups Map of the world Create your Ecard looooooooooooooooool Send it to everybody you love Its made by me ;) Our symbol If you have an elegant taste Test your mind 1 + 1 = 3 !!! Singer , searsh for any song and sing ;) For everybody wants to marry a woman that he doesn't love ! nowadays , there is no womanhood !! :P Just Try to fix it Keep these advertisements run and earn 0.25 $ per 10 minute ;) See this file Check this site out for the full scoop: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.maldal.d@mm.html Again, those using Outlook need to be especially alert. and DO NOT OPEN ATTACHMENTS, even from friends and relatives that you did not know were coming. Also, if you get one, don't write to the list, write to me. I will inform the sender and unsub them from the list until their computer is clean. Thanks for your cooperation. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, listowner http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

Thanks Jeff for doing the look up. No idea where they have disappeared to now. I wonder if any of the dressmakers you mention were married Davies?Justina worked as as dressmaker prior to her death. Maybe the daughters followed? Being orphans I suppose they went their separate ways. George joined the Welsh Fusiliers and went to India. James John was to follow him to India in the 1870's. David the elder brother was over there too.o idea of what happened to the girls. No I haven't been able to check any trade directory's - I would certainly appreciate any help in that direction. William Edward Davies a tailor? Swansea? When James John Davies was christened in 1864 (aged 13) the certificate states he was living in Swansea.The actual event took place in Carmarthen. They must be out there somewhere!!! Thanks again Happy New Year Cathy Subject: Re: [Swansea] Gomerian Place, Swansea census 1861 > Hi > > I have checked the 1861 census - ref 4103 folio 37-38 p9-11 for Gomarian > Place ( this spelling was used then, and in each census 1871, 81,1891. There > was no-one living there with the surname Davies. It seems to have been a > small street or court, with only 12 houses, and, judging by where it was > enumerated, it must have been off the East side of Waterloo Street, possibly > north of Temple Street. It is not shown either on the 1851 map in the > 'Swansea Guide 1851' or the 1878 map on the wall of the Family History > searchroom in County Hall. > > It was in the part of the centre of Swansea totally destroyed in the 1941 > 'three days blitz', and after the war the street pattern was completely > different. If you know Swansea today it would probably be under David Evans > Store, Princess Way or British Home Stores - as far as I can guess- if not > the skateboard-infested white elephant known as Castle Square. > > I have a feeling that it may be shown in some of John Alban's history books > about Swansea. > > Several occupants of Gomarian Place had occupations connected with sewing - > I think a dressmaker and a milliner. > > I hope this is helpful. > > If you have not searched Swansea trade directories for later addresses, > please let me and the rest of the list know. > > Jeff > >

I don't know if there has been more recent correspondence on this. Today in County Hall archives, Swansea I spotted an unusual folio book from Swansea St Mary's including sketches of a lot of headstones from the graveyard, linked to an index, as well as other lists such as those with curious causes of death. At the time I didn't remember what grave was being looked for, but knew someone wanted one. The drawings are dated 1858-1860 I think, so if Evan Parry had a gravestone it might be there. Incidentally, while at a concert in St Mary's before Christmas I noticed an interesting photographic display of the history of the Church and its double re-building - once in 1890s in latest Victorian style, and again after 1941 bombing. If anyone local is looking, the two volumes of the book were to the left of the St Mary's register copies. Jeff Swansea ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Pitt <patpitt@oceania.net> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [Swansea] re PARRY > THANK YOU Brian. Do you think there may be a headstone ? I am visiting the > UK in August/September and will try and get down to Swansea. > > Pat > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <DJmusic32@aol.com> > To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 7:59 PM > Subject: Re: [Swansea] re PARRY > > > > Hi Pat, > > Evan Pary is burried in St Marys Swansea, Its recorded as follows.. > > > > Evan Pary Died 24th Dec 1850 of Swansea Aged 68yrs > > > > Hope that helps > > > > Brian Davies > > Swansea > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > > > > > > ______________________________

Hi I have checked the 1861 census - ref 4103 folio 37-38 p9-11 for Gomarian Place ( this spelling was used then, and in each census 1871, 81,1891. There was no-one living there with the surname Davies. It seems to have been a small street or court, with only 12 houses, and, judging by where it was enumerated, it must have been off the East side of Waterloo Street, possibly north of Temple Street. It is not shown either on the 1851 map in the 'Swansea Guide 1851' or the 1878 map on the wall of the Family History searchroom in County Hall. It was in the part of the centre of Swansea totally destroyed in the 1941 'three days blitz', and after the war the street pattern was completely different. If you know Swansea today it would probably be under David Evans Store, Princess Way or British Home Stores - as far as I can guess- if not the skateboard-infested white elephant known as Castle Square. I have a feeling that it may be shown in some of John Alban's history books about Swansea. Several occupants of Gomarian Place had occupations connected with sewing - I think a dressmaker and a milliner. I hope this is helpful. If you have not searched Swansea trade directories for later addresses, please let me and the rest of the list know. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: David Barber <Dav_Barber@tesco.net> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: [Swansea] Gomerian Place, Swansea census 1861 > Hi > > Merry Christmas to all > > Thanks to Sandi in the USA I have been able to find my family on the > Glamorgan 1851 census. > > Would anybody out there be able to check the 1861 census for Gomerian Place? > > Looking for William Davies , tailor and family, wife Margaret, children > Sarah, Caroline, Daniel > > In the 1851 census he was living next door to his mother Justina, however > she died in 1853 leaving 11 children as orphans. So perhaps William took in > the younger siblings? James John born 1851, Charlotte 1847, Edward 1845, > Sarah 1841, George 1838 apprentice tailor to William. > It may be that the family remained in two houses looked after by older > sisters Mary Ann or Anne? > > Is Gomerian Place still in existence? > > Any help much appreciated. > > Cathy > North Devon > Researching Davies, Cox, Clark, McGlashan, Gilroy >

Happy New year to all. I am looking for Morgans & Wilcox's from Swansea,Cardiff, & surrounding areas. William Wilcox Born 1856, Catherine Morgan born 1858. I would like to find birth certificates. Tom Wilcox

Hi Merry Christmas to all Thanks to Sandi in the USA I have been able to find my family on the Glamorgan 1851 census. Would anybody out there be able to check the 1861 census for Gomerian Place? Looking for William Davies , tailor and family, wife Margaret, children Sarah, Caroline, Daniel In the 1851 census he was living next door to his mother Justina, however she died in 1853 leaving 11 children as orphans. So perhaps William took in the younger siblings? James John born 1851, Charlotte 1847, Edward 1845, Sarah 1841, George 1838 apprentice tailor to William. It may be that the family remained in two houses looked after by older sisters Mary Ann or Anne? Is Gomerian Place still in existence? Any help much appreciated. Cathy North Devon Researching Davies, Cox, Clark, McGlashan, Gilroy

The 1901 census for England and Wales will go on line the first week of January. You can search the index for free and see the actual census for a charge. You can read all about it at: http://www.pro.gov.uk/census/factsheet.htm I believe I announced this a couple of months ago but now that the time is getting closer, thought a new announcement would be appropriate. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

Be careful of those "Happy New Year" subjects... Body of message: Hi! I can't describe my feelings... Attachment: Christmas.exe Check out full scoop at: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.maldal.c@mm.html Again, DO NOT OPEN ATTACHMENTS! -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, listowner http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

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Okay, we just got through the badtrans virus and now a new one. Will have HI in the subject and a screen saver attachment, DO NOT open, delete please. This is call the Goner Virus. Good luck. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, listowner http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

No Attatchments. My interests are; DAVIES, William John. BOSTON-DOWNES, Annie. Of Cockett, Swansea, and Berrick on Tweed. Lived mostly in Llanelli. Thanks in advance Dianne in Snowy Vancouver. diehard1967@shaw.ca

Wow, we just got through the virus mess and now Excite@home is shutting down! Anyone affected by this, please email me off list and I will help you sub your new email address. Don't worry about the old one, after 3 bounces, it is automatically dropped from the list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, listowner http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I am sending this to anyone who has got on to my address book, for whatever reason. As it seems to add automatically to the address book anyone who has sent me an email and had a reply, you may not remember any contact with me. Apologies both if you got an infected email and if you didn't and I am worrying you unduly. This week I have received several copies of the BADTRANS virus. I thought I had caught all of them and got rid of them, but it looks as though some emails at least have been sent without my knowledge, with timings 20.06 and 21.27 approx 01/12/2001, UK time. If you got an earlier email from me today, it is probably best to delete it, while your computer is disconnected from the telephone system, so that it can't send further virus copies without your knowledge. I have not sent any emails today which have attachments. I strongly suggest you get your antivirus software updated, and don't open any emails with attachments you are not expecting. 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Well, it seems like it is that time again...virus/worm time that is. I am warning you to not open attachments unless the person sending them tells you what they are about. Here is a site you might find helpful: http://www.windowsitsecurity.com/Panda/Index.cfm?FuseAction=VirusList If you receive an email with this list in the subject, please do NOT write to the list and give the person's name and email address, write me. I will unsub them and let them know they have the virus/worm. I will then wait until they clean their computer before letting back on the list. Again: Don't open attachments... -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, listowner http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Hello Shirley, Rutland Street no longer exists.The Roman Catholic Church could be St.David's, which is in that vicinity & still open. I think the Mountain Dew in Mount Pleasant is still there. Not sure if the Mile End is still open, as a few have closed in last couple of years. Try www.royalmail.com or www.ukvillages.co.uk I don't have 1881 Census, which is indexed. The 1891 is being indexed at the moment. Try the Glamorgan lookup exchange on http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html as they're a very helpful bunch of people. Heulwen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Brewer" <shirbrew@camasnet.com> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 7:43 PM Subject: [Swansea] Catholic Church > I have just received a marriage cert and I would like to know a few things. > First of all they were married in Roman Catholic Chapel Rutland Swansea. Is that still there where is? > > Second: Mile End Inn, port Tennant and > Mountain Dew Hotel Mount Pleasant > > Would any one check for this family > John Allen licensed vicualler > Sidney Allen b 1885 > > In 1908 he had died > > Thank you so much > Shirley >

I have just received a marriage cert and I would like to know a few things. First of all they were married in Roman Catholic Chapel Rutland Swansea. Is that still there where is? Second: Mile End Inn, port Tennant and Mountain Dew Hotel Mount Pleasant Would any one check for this family John Allen licensed vicualler Sidney Allen b 1885 In 1908 he had died Thank you so much Shirley

Brian, Thank you for this, Ok, so I'm not Mary, but we are related :o) I've checked and our actual relationship is that her husband is my second cousin once removed! The first family you sent show THOMAS GREGORY and his son THOMAS GREGORY. Strangely, both married women named MARGARET. Thomas the younger is my great, great grandfather, and Mary's great grandfather-in-law, he had 16 children, the youngest of which, Blodwen, is my great grandmother, the oldest, John, is Mary's husband's grandfather. The second family MUST be related! They live in the same parish. Could Thomas the elder be brother to John??? Something I must look into (any ideas as to how to do this would be greatly appreciated!) Thank you for this information, Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: <DJmusic32@aol.com> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:43 PM Subject: [Swansea] Re: Returned mail: User unknown > > > << Hi Mary, > Just found these in the 1851 Census. I wonder if this lot are in > your line there are only two Gregory families in wales that fit. All in the > Timber trade also ???? > > 2465 1851 CENSUS OF YNYSLLWCHWR PARCEL. REF.H.O.107/2465, E.D.4A. > > > > Piece: 2465 Folio: 152 Schedule: 027 > > Address: RHOSILI > > GREGORY THOMAS HD M 37 SAWYER > GLA LLANDEILO TALYBONT > (c1814) > GREGORY MARGRET WI M 47 SAWYER WIFE > CMN LLANSTEPHAN > (c1804) > GREGORY RICHARD SO U 18 SAWYER > GLA LLANDEILO TALYBONT > (c1833) > GREGORY DAVID SO - 15 SAWYER > GLA LLANDEILO TALYBONT > (c1836) > GREGORY THOMAS SO - 12 SAWYER > GLA LLANDEILO TALYBONT > (c1839) > GREGORY DANIEL SO - 9 AT HOME > GLA LLANDEILO TALYBONT > (c1842) > GREGORY MARY DA - 4 AT HOME > GLA LLANDEILO TALYBONT > (c1847) > GREGORY MARGRET DA - 6M AT HOME > GLA LLANDEILO TALYBONT > (c1850) > > > (c1851) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > --------------------------------------------- > > 2465 1851 CENSUS OF GLYNLLWCHWR PARCEL. REF.H.O.107/2465, E.D.4B. > > > > Piece: 2465 Folio: 166 Schedule: 095 > > Address: PENTRE BACH > > GREGORY JOHN HD M 42 JOINER > GLA LLANDEILO TALYBONT > (c1809) > GREGORY HARRIET WI M 43 - > CMN ? > (c1808) > GREGORY DANIEL SO U 19 JOINER (APP) > GLA LLANDEILO TALYBONT > (c1832) > GREGORY JOHN SO U 16 JOINER (APP) > GLA LLANDEILO TALYBONT > (c1835) > GREGORY HANNAH DA U 13 - > GLA LLANDEILO TALYBONT > (c1838) > GREGORY CATHARINE DA U 11 - > GLA LLANDEILO TALYBONT > (c1840) > GREGORY WILLIAM SO U 9 - > GLA LLANDEILO TALYBONT > (c1842) > GREGORY THOMAS SO - 7 - > GLA LLANDEILO TALYBONT > (c1844) > GREGORY HENRY SO - 2 - > GLA LLANDEILO TALYBONT > (c1849) > > Just a thought > Happy hunting > Brian Davies > Swansea > >> > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm >