Hi Folks, Please has anyone access to the 1871 Census for Swansea,My ancestors were living at 47 Miers Street in Feb 1873,when their youngest son was born,Hopefully James Chivers and family are already at that address by 1871. By 1881 Census they were in Llanstadwell Pembroke,and by 1891 in Devon.James was a Railway Train driver,so as you can see moved about alot. Hoping someone might be able to help me with Miers Road Bye Val

--1027022001879 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all.On the same subject of Swansea Newspapers.Does anyone know if there were-any for the Mumbles/Bishopston area of say a 100 years ago?Thankyou.Graham.GFHS;#551. R.Graham Williams,In Cardiff. On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:52:08 -0600 WLS-SWANSEA-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: --1027022001879 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([207.40.200.41]) by ics0034.ics.ntlworld.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:55:38 +0100 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id g6IDq89h001159; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:52:08 -0600 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:52:08 -0600 Message-Id: <200207181352.g6IDq89h001159@lists5.rootsweb.com> From: WLS-SWANSEA-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: WLS-SWANSEA-D Digest V02 #81 X-Loop: WLS-SWANSEA-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <WLS-SWANSEA-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume02/81 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: WLS-SWANSEA-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com Return-Path: WLS-SWANSEA-D-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain WLS-SWANSEA-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 81 Today's Topics: #1 [Swansea] Help re origins please. [AlecPlmr@aol.com] #2 [Swansea] Swansea Obits [Bondeclay@cs.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from WLS-SWANSEA-D, send a message to WLS-SWANSEA-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the WLS-SWANSEA-D list administrator, send mail to WLS-SWANSEA-admin@rootsweb.com. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #1 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:11:50 EDT From: AlecPlmr@aol.com To: WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <88.1b203405.2a671b76@aol.com> Subject: [Swansea] Help re origins please. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I am reasonably able to trace my North Somerset/South Wales maternal predecessors where the surnames PHIPPS and BREWER are well represented. I have also had the good fortune of having recovered several mid - late 1800's and early 1900 photographs of the aforementioned surnamed persons. The most striking physical feature of both the male and female sides, is the 'Italian Look' which they all bear. Throughout my 70+ years I have repeatedly heard unsubstantiated chat from family members that there is an 'Italian Connection' Alas! To date I have been unsuccessful in finding the evidence to prove the point. Notwithstanding that, I have this week been passed a 1918 'BREWER' photograph which includes a baby of a very young age - I will guess less than 4 weeks old. The proud mother is Helen (Nellie) BREWER. The names of the baby include LaVARO. Are there List Members who have knowledge of name LaVARO slotting into a Welsh family with an Italian root? I shall be most grateful to receive advice on this matter. Alec Palmer. xvii. vii. mmii. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #2 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:52:04 EDT From: Bondeclay@cs.com To: WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <135.1172fe3b.2a682204@cs.com> Subject: [Swansea] Swansea Obits Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone tell me the name of the newspaper(s) in Swansea in the period of 1901-1910 and if the obits are searchable online. I am particularly interested in one for Charles Blewitt Jenkins who was alive in 1901 but "in poor health". He would have been in his late 70's at the time. Thanks. Bonnie -------------------------------- End of WLS-SWANSEA-D Digest V02 Issue #81 ***************************************** --1027022001879--

--1027015550508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Alec,Nothing for any "LAVARO"in Swansea for the 1891 Directory,But I did find a Thomas Brewer,who was a "Tailor",of 26 Dillwyn Street,Swansea.Graham.Glam;FHS;#551. R.Graham Williams,In Cardiff. On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:52:08 -0600 WLS-SWANSEA-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: --1027015550508 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([207.40.200.41]) by ics0034.ics.ntlworld.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:55:38 +0100 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id g6IDq89h001159; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:52:08 -0600 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:52:08 -0600 Message-Id: <200207181352.g6IDq89h001159@lists5.rootsweb.com> From: WLS-SWANSEA-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: WLS-SWANSEA-D Digest V02 #81 X-Loop: WLS-SWANSEA-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <WLS-SWANSEA-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume02/81 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: WLS-SWANSEA-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com Return-Path: WLS-SWANSEA-D-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain WLS-SWANSEA-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 81 Today's Topics: #1 [Swansea] Help re origins please. [AlecPlmr@aol.com] #2 [Swansea] Swansea Obits [Bondeclay@cs.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from WLS-SWANSEA-D, send a message to WLS-SWANSEA-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the WLS-SWANSEA-D list administrator, send mail to WLS-SWANSEA-admin@rootsweb.com. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #1 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:11:50 EDT From: AlecPlmr@aol.com To: WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <88.1b203405.2a671b76@aol.com> Subject: [Swansea] Help re origins please. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I am reasonably able to trace my North Somerset/South Wales maternal predecessors where the surnames PHIPPS and BREWER are well represented. I have also had the good fortune of having recovered several mid - late 1800's and early 1900 photographs of the aforementioned surnamed persons. The most striking physical feature of both the male and female sides, is the 'Italian Look' which they all bear. Throughout my 70+ years I have repeatedly heard unsubstantiated chat from family members that there is an 'Italian Connection' Alas! To date I have been unsuccessful in finding the evidence to prove the point. Notwithstanding that, I have this week been passed a 1918 'BREWER' photograph which includes a baby of a very young age - I will guess less than 4 weeks old. The proud mother is Helen (Nellie) BREWER. The names of the baby include LaVARO. Are there List Members who have knowledge of name LaVARO slotting into a Welsh family with an Italian root? I shall be most grateful to receive advice on this matter. Alec Palmer. xvii. vii. mmii. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #2 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:52:04 EDT From: Bondeclay@cs.com To: WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <135.1172fe3b.2a682204@cs.com> Subject: [Swansea] Swansea Obits Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone tell me the name of the newspaper(s) in Swansea in the period of 1901-1910 and if the obits are searchable online. I am particularly interested in one for Charles Blewitt Jenkins who was alive in 1901 but "in poor health". He would have been in his late 70's at the time. Thanks. Bonnie -------------------------------- End of WLS-SWANSEA-D Digest V02 Issue #81 ***************************************** --1027015550508--

--part1_3e.21599a6e.2a686491_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_3e.21599a6e.2a686491_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <AlecPlmr@aol.com> From: AlecPlmr@aol.com Full-name: AlecPlmr Message-ID: <12c.14874176.2a6863e7@aol.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:33:11 EDT Subject: Italian origins/blood - Brewer - Phipps - La Varo ???? To: robert.williams438@ntlworld.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows UK sub 10500 Will R. Graham Williams in Cardiff please accept the grateful thanks of Alec Palmer for the courtesy of replying to his e - mail. Alec Palmer. xviii. vii. mmii. --part1_3e.21599a6e.2a686491_boundary--

Can anyone tell me the name of the newspaper(s) in Swansea in the period of 1901-1910 and if the obits are searchable online. I am particularly interested in one for Charles Blewitt Jenkins who was alive in 1901 but "in poor health". He would have been in his late 70's at the time. Thanks. Bonnie

I am reasonably able to trace my North Somerset/South Wales maternal predecessors where the surnames PHIPPS and BREWER are well represented. I have also had the good fortune of having recovered several mid - late 1800's and early 1900 photographs of the aforementioned surnamed persons. The most striking physical feature of both the male and female sides, is the 'Italian Look' which they all bear. Throughout my 70+ years I have repeatedly heard unsubstantiated chat from family members that there is an 'Italian Connection' Alas! To date I have been unsuccessful in finding the evidence to prove the point. Notwithstanding that, I have this week been passed a 1918 'BREWER' photograph which includes a baby of a very young age - I will guess less than 4 weeks old. The proud mother is Helen (Nellie) BREWER. The names of the baby include LaVARO. Are there List Members who have knowledge of name LaVARO slotting into a Welsh family with an Italian root? I shall be most grateful to receive advice on this matter. Alec Palmer. xvii. vii. mmii.

Hi everyone.I have loads of Interests in the GOWER.Namely:-SAMBROOK of Oystermouth.MICHAEL of Oystermouth.JONE(S)Of Oystermouth.All 18th;Century.GRIFFITHS of Oystermouth & Bishopston.(18th;&19th;Cent;)DAVID/DAVIES,Of LLanrhidian,murton,and Oystermouth.(Mumbles)18th;&19th;Cent;In the Swansea area:-BURNELL OF Llansamlet.19th;Cent;REES OF Llansamlet,Previously of Llanelli,Carms;19th;Cent;If anyone has any of these in their roots?Then drop me a line with YOUR Connections.Thankyou.Graham.GLAM:FHS;#551. R.Graham Williams,In Cardiff.

--1026162730986 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone.I have loads of Interests in the GOWER.Namely:-SAMBROOK of Oystermouth.MICHAEL of Oystermouth.JONE(S)Of Oystermouth.All 18th;Century.GRIFFITHS of Oystermouth & Bishopston.(18th;&19th;Cent;)DAVID/DAVIES,Of LLanrhidian,murton,and Oystermouth.(Mumbles)18th;&19th;Cent;In the Swansea area:-BURNELL OF Llansamlet.19th;Cent;REES OF Llansamlet,Previously of Llanelli,Carms;19th;Cent;If anyone has any of these in their roots?Then drop me a line with YOUR Connections.Thankyou.Graham.GLAM:FHS;#551. R.Graham Williams,In Cardiff. On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 09:32:25 -0600 WLS-SWANSEA-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: --1026162730986 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([207.40.200.41]) by ics0035.ics.ntlworld.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 7 Jul 2002 20:40:00 +0100 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id g67FWPgI001086; Sun, 7 Jul 2002 09:32:25 -0600 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 09:32:25 -0600 Message-Id: <200207071532.g67FWPgI001086@lists5.rootsweb.com> From: WLS-SWANSEA-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: WLS-SWANSEA-D Digest V02 #79 X-Loop: WLS-SWANSEA-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <WLS-SWANSEA-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume02/79 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: WLS-SWANSEA-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com Return-Path: WLS-SWANSEA-D-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain WLS-SWANSEA-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 79 Today's Topics: #1 [Swansea] New Member [<robert.williams438@ntlworld.co.uk] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from WLS-SWANSEA-D, send a message to WLS-SWANSEA-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the WLS-SWANSEA-D list administrator, send mail to WLS-SWANSEA-admin@rootsweb.com. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #1 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:10:49 +0100 From: <robert.williams438@ntlworld.co.uk> To: WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <0b31a4910210672ICS0034@ics0034.ics.ntlworld.com> Subject: [Swansea] New Member Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi All,Ive just joined this List.I belong-to the Glam;List too.Ive got several Interests in Swansea,Mainly my WILLIAMS Gang.My Great,Great,Great,Grand-pa was David WILLIAMS,A "Butcher" of 20 Miers Street,Swansea in 1871,When he was aged 74.Hi wife was Elizabeth,Nee DAVIES.Their-Daughter Elizabeth,Born 1st;Jan;1840 at cwmbwrla,Was later the Wife of Richard DENNIS.They were the Parents of George DENNIS,who later had a Pub at Swansea.David & Elizabeth Williams,also had Thomas Daniel Williams,(1846-1906)who Marr;Margaret REES at Llansamlet in 1868.They are my Great,Great,Grandparents.Margaret died in1882,And Thomas High tailed it to Cardiff,and married his second Wife:-Tabitha Morgans,(1863-1943)at Roath-St;Margarets in 1883.They settled in Cardiff,and Thomas Sired a son and 7 Daughters.He was a "Boilermaker"at The Channel Dry Dock Cardiff.As were 4 generations of my WILLIAMS Gang later on.Graham.GFHS;#551. R.Graham Williams,In Cardiff. -------------------------------- End of WLS-SWANSEA-D Digest V02 Issue #79 ***************************************** --1026162730986--

Hi All,Ive just joined this List.I belong-to the Glam;List too.Ive got several Interests in Swansea,Mainly my WILLIAMS Gang.My Great,Great,Great,Grand-pa was David WILLIAMS,A "Butcher" of 20 Miers Street,Swansea in 1871,When he was aged 74.Hi wife was Elizabeth,Nee DAVIES.Their-Daughter Elizabeth,Born 1st;Jan;1840 at cwmbwrla,Was later the Wife of Richard DENNIS.They were the Parents of George DENNIS,who later had a Pub at Swansea.David & Elizabeth Williams,also had Thomas Daniel Williams,(1846-1906)who Marr;Margaret REES at Llansamlet in 1868.They are my Great,Great,Grandparents.Margaret died in1882,And Thomas High tailed it to Cardiff,and married his second Wife:-Tabitha Morgans,(1863-1943)at Roath-St;Margarets in 1883.They settled in Cardiff,and Thomas Sired a son and 7 Daughters.He was a "Boilermaker"at The Channel Dry Dock Cardiff.As were 4 generations of my WILLIAMS Gang later on.Graham.GFHS;#551. R.Graham Williams,In Cardiff.

Can anyone check to see if there was a MICHAEL LEARY born in Swansea between 1825 & 1835. Actual birthyear ws recorded as 1831. Thanks. Don O'Leary

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Hi Pat I found 9 Scyborfach Street Swansea in 1891 census today. In it were David EVANS, general labourer,20, and his wife Ellen, 22. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: pat cook <vernoncook@grimsby74.freeserve.co.uk> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:17 AM Subject: [Swansea] New Lister, 1891 census look up please > Hi to you all. > > Trying to find ways to crumble a 15 yr old brick wall. > > Would appreciate a look up for the following family group, or any member > of it. > > The boy is whom I am interested in. I am hoping he turns out to be > Thomas Morgan WILLIAMS who was born in Bristol in 1873 to Mary WILLIAMS, > no father mentioned. > > In 1881 Census > 9 Scyborfach St, Swansea Town. Glam > Film 1342292, Refg RG11, Piece 5360, Folio127, Page 40. > HAWKINS Samuel - h - mar - 28 - carpenter - b Gloucester > HAWKINS Nanny - w - mar - 32 - b Newport Mon > WILLIAMS Mary - mothinlaw - wid - 65 - b Perranarworthal, Cornwall > WILLIAMS Thomas - vis - unm - 7 - scholar - b England. > > I am hoping Mary is Thomas's grandmother, our Thomas M lived in Bristol > and worked at Temple Meads station, spoke with a Welsh accent, he was my > husbands Grandfather. Family story is, he was taken in by somebody, but > never officially adopted, legal adoption hadn't started this far back. > > Any help or advice greatly appreciated > > Vernon and Pat Cook in Grimsby, Lincs > > Researching; > Devon; COCKRAM,CRUDGE,LAKE,FISHER, > Somerset,WESTERN,LEE,TIBBS > Lincolnshire; STEAD, SMITH, LEE, SCARBY, DUNNILL ,FREEBOROUGH > ,ROSSINGTON ,METCALF(E) > ,THOMPSON > Yorkshire; STEAD, SMITH, JARVIS, THOMPSON, DUNNILL/HILL > Hunts; SMITH, ELLIS > Notts. WATERFIELD > Bristol; COOK.LEE,WILLIAMS.WESTERN,ALLEN > >

In the 1891 Census, at 30 Singleton Street was John HINDE, compositor, b Dorset, Weymouth, and family. Sorry no joy on TOY. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernard Alexander <moonraker00@msn.com> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 10:22 PM Subject: [Swansea] TOI/TOY mystery? > Hello Listers, > > About 2 years ago I started to research the family history of my neighbor's father. His name is George TOI and he came to Arizona sometime around 1915. It was always understood that his birthplace was Glasgow, Scotland, and this is confirmed by the 1920 U.S Census where he indicated that he was born in Scotland as was his parents. > > After a fruitless search thru Scottish records I discovered an entry on the Ellis Island site that showed a George TOY entering New York in 1907. His traveling companions were the WOOSENCRAFT family, all bound for Dunbar, Wisconsin. The ship's manifest indicated that the WOOSENCRAFT's were Welsh from Montgomeryshire and that George TOY was also Welsh and his birthplace was listed as Swansea. > > Somewhat confused I mentioned my findings to my neighbor who told me that she had family still living in the Welshpool area. I was able to locate a name and address and wrote to a lady in Welshpool. A few days ago I received a letter from a lady in Stroud, Glos, saying that she was the daughter of the ' Welshpool ' lady and that my neighbor and her mother were half-cousins. Apparently, George TOI/TOY was the son of a John TOI, from Hayle, Cornwall and was born about 1888 in Swansea. His mother's name was Edith > and that this was John TOI's third marriage. > > A check of the 1881 Census did reveal a John TOI age 40 from Hayle, Cornwall living at 30, Singleton St, Swansea together with his son, John age 14, and daughter Catherine age 11 both born in Swansea. They were living with and related to a COOK family. > > I then looked-up the FreeBMD index and found a marriage for a John TOY in 1886 in Swansea. I then displayed the list of potential wives on the same index page and found a listing for an Edith COOK. I then went back to the 1881 Census and saw that John TOI's niece was a Edith COOK aged 11 and that she was born in Hayle, Cornwall. > > Did John TOI sr marry his niece, Edith COOK ? Did George TOI decide to become Scottish when he found out that his mother was also his cousin ? Would SKS like to check the 1891 census of Swansea and see if they are still listed in Singleton St ? ( I suspect not ! ) Any other info/suggestions gratefully received. > > Bernard > Phoenix, Arizona > > ______________________________

I am looking for Information on GIBBS Regards Jan Jones

Hi Katrina, I'm afraid it probably is a long shot. My GURNEY is my gr/gmother Isabel GURNEY b 13 Feb 1890 Willesden, She married Alfred BURRETT b 5 Nov 1888 Battersea. Her parents were Thomas George GURNEY & Francis PERRY. Her siblings were - Ellen, William, Kitty (probably a pet name) & Tom. I did however get this sent to me from the list. Dwelling: Middle Field Farm. Census Place: Bedford, England Source: FHL Flim 1341390 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1631 Folio 21 Page 3 NAME MARITAL STATUS AGE SEX BIRTHPLACE John GURNEY M 64 M Henlow, Bedford, England Rel: Head Occ: Farmer (Of 335 Acres Employing 14 Men 6 Boys) Elizabeth GURNEY M 51 F London, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife Occ: Farmers Wife Thomas G GURNEY U 17 M Henlow, Bedford, England Rel: Son Occ Farmers son Mary S. GURNEY 12 F Henlow, Bedford, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar John E. GURNEY 10 M Henlow, Bedford Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Martha BERRY U 17 F Arlesy, Bedford, England Rel: Serv Occ: Cook (Domestic Serv) Rebecca BYWATERS U 17 F Henlow, Bedford, England Rel: Serv Occ: Housemaid (Demostic Serv) Sorry I can't be of any more help but this is all the information on any of these. If you come across anything that might fit in with my Gurney's my e-mail is cb55@optushome.com.au Regards Christine GRELL nee BOWERS in sunny Queensland, AUST All e-mail virus free Checked by PC-cillin6 Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katrina Crute - Creative Memories" <kcrute@westnet.com.au> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [Swansea] Re: Fisher > Christine, > > I see you are researching the name Gurney. This is a real long shot (and I > mean long), but I have come to a bit of a brick wall. I have a Joseph > Parrick who married a Mary Jane Gurney. They had 3 children (that we know > of at the moment) Alfred Parrick (my line), Frederick William Parrick & > Madeline Mary. Let me know if it was a long shot > > Katrina > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Christine <cb55@optushome.com.au> > To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Swansea] Re: Fisher > > > > Hi Ron, > > > > Thanks Ron, when I get chance I'll see if any of them connect. > > I'm researching Burrett (Battersea), Gurney (Willesden), Nesbitt (Newry, > > County Down), Davenport (nee Adams, (Aston-under-Lyne, Lancaster), McClure > > (married my Nesbitt), Heywood (married my Burrett), Perry (married my > > Gurney), Grell, Barrass, & Bowers. My main lines are Burrett Nesbitt & > > Grell. > > As you can see I'm kept pretty busy :) > > > > Regards > > Christine > > > > All e-mail virus free > > Checked by PC-cillin6 > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <HamRon4@aol.com> > > To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 4:40 PM > > Subject: Re: [Swansea] Re: Fisher > > > > > > > Hi, Christine, > > > > > > Saw you query regards the name Fisher and that you live in Queensland. I > > have > > > family in Queensland and last year I obtained a copy of The Bundaberg & > > > District Pioneers Book. In the Directory part of the book there are > > several > > > Fishers mentioned so I thought I would send them on to you just in case > > they > > > are yours. > > > > > > 1. George James Fisher, born circa 1863, he was a railway fireman and in > > June > > > 1898 he was residing at the Railway station, North Bundaberg. > > > > > > 2. Henry Fisher, in 1875 he was in the Bundaberg district. > > > > > > 3. Isaac Fisher, in the Bundaberg electoral register of August 1894, he > is > > > marked as 'left'. > > > > > > 4. James Fisher, in October 1887 he was living on Walla Street, > Bundaberg. > > > > > > 5. James Ashworth Fisher, son of James Fisher was born circa 1868 at > > > Bradford, Yorkshire. He died at Woondooma Street, Bundaberg in December, > > > 1898, and was buried at Bundaberg on the 14th of December, 1898. He was > a > > > labourer and resided at Bundaberg. > > > > > > 6. William Fisher in October 1887 he was living on the Bingera > Plantation. > > > > > > These are the only entries in the book. Hope they help your research. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Ron Hamilton. > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > > > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > > > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > > > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > > > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm >

Christine, I see you are researching the name Gurney. This is a real long shot (and I mean long), but I have come to a bit of a brick wall. I have a Joseph Parrick who married a Mary Jane Gurney. They had 3 children (that we know of at the moment) Alfred Parrick (my line), Frederick William Parrick & Madeline Mary. Let me know if it was a long shot Katrina ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine <cb55@optushome.com.au> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [Swansea] Re: Fisher > Hi Ron, > > Thanks Ron, when I get chance I'll see if any of them connect. > I'm researching Burrett (Battersea), Gurney (Willesden), Nesbitt (Newry, > County Down), Davenport (nee Adams, (Aston-under-Lyne, Lancaster), McClure > (married my Nesbitt), Heywood (married my Burrett), Perry (married my > Gurney), Grell, Barrass, & Bowers. My main lines are Burrett Nesbitt & > Grell. > As you can see I'm kept pretty busy :) > > Regards > Christine > > All e-mail virus free > Checked by PC-cillin6 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <HamRon4@aol.com> > To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 4:40 PM > Subject: Re: [Swansea] Re: Fisher > > > > Hi, Christine, > > > > Saw you query regards the name Fisher and that you live in Queensland. I > have > > family in Queensland and last year I obtained a copy of The Bundaberg & > > District Pioneers Book. In the Directory part of the book there are > several > > Fishers mentioned so I thought I would send them on to you just in case > they > > are yours. > > > > 1. George James Fisher, born circa 1863, he was a railway fireman and in > June > > 1898 he was residing at the Railway station, North Bundaberg. > > > > 2. Henry Fisher, in 1875 he was in the Bundaberg district. > > > > 3. Isaac Fisher, in the Bundaberg electoral register of August 1894, he is > > marked as 'left'. > > > > 4. James Fisher, in October 1887 he was living on Walla Street, Bundaberg. > > > > 5. James Ashworth Fisher, son of James Fisher was born circa 1868 at > > Bradford, Yorkshire. He died at Woondooma Street, Bundaberg in December, > > 1898, and was buried at Bundaberg on the 14th of December, 1898. He was a > > labourer and resided at Bundaberg. > > > > 6. William Fisher in October 1887 he was living on the Bingera Plantation. > > > > These are the only entries in the book. Hope they help your research. > > > > Best wishes, > > Ron Hamilton. > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm >

Hi Ron, Thanks Ron, when I get chance I'll see if any of them connect. I'm researching Burrett (Battersea), Gurney (Willesden), Nesbitt (Newry, County Down), Davenport (nee Adams, (Aston-under-Lyne, Lancaster), McClure (married my Nesbitt), Heywood (married my Burrett), Perry (married my Gurney), Grell, Barrass, & Bowers. My main lines are Burrett Nesbitt & Grell. As you can see I'm kept pretty busy :) Regards Christine All e-mail virus free Checked by PC-cillin6 ----- Original Message ----- From: <HamRon4@aol.com> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [Swansea] Re: Fisher > Hi, Christine, > > Saw you query regards the name Fisher and that you live in Queensland. I have > family in Queensland and last year I obtained a copy of The Bundaberg & > District Pioneers Book. In the Directory part of the book there are several > Fishers mentioned so I thought I would send them on to you just in case they > are yours. > > 1. George James Fisher, born circa 1863, he was a railway fireman and in June > 1898 he was residing at the Railway station, North Bundaberg. > > 2. Henry Fisher, in 1875 he was in the Bundaberg district. > > 3. Isaac Fisher, in the Bundaberg electoral register of August 1894, he is > marked as 'left'. > > 4. James Fisher, in October 1887 he was living on Walla Street, Bundaberg. > > 5. James Ashworth Fisher, son of James Fisher was born circa 1868 at > Bradford, Yorkshire. He died at Woondooma Street, Bundaberg in December, > 1898, and was buried at Bundaberg on the 14th of December, 1898. He was a > labourer and resided at Bundaberg. > > 6. William Fisher in October 1887 he was living on the Bingera Plantation. > > These are the only entries in the book. Hope they help your research. > > Best wishes, > Ron Hamilton. > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm >

Hello Listers, About 2 years ago I started to research the family history of my neighbor's father. His name is George TOI and he came to Arizona sometime around 1915. It was always understood that his birthplace was Glasgow, Scotland, and this is confirmed by the 1920 U.S Census where he indicated that he was born in Scotland as was his parents. After a fruitless search thru Scottish records I discovered an entry on the Ellis Island site that showed a George TOY entering New York in 1907. His traveling companions were the WOOSENCRAFT family, all bound for Dunbar, Wisconsin. The ship's manifest indicated that the WOOSENCRAFT's were Welsh from Montgomeryshire and that George TOY was also Welsh and his birthplace was listed as Swansea. Somewhat confused I mentioned my findings to my neighbor who told me that she had family still living in the Welshpool area. I was able to locate a name and address and wrote to a lady in Welshpool. A few days ago I received a letter from a lady in Stroud, Glos, saying that she was the daughter of the ' Welshpool ' lady and that my neighbor and her mother were half-cousins. Apparently, George TOI/TOY was the son of a John TOI, from Hayle, Cornwall and was born about 1888 in Swansea. His mother's name was Edith and that this was John TOI's third marriage. A check of the 1881 Census did reveal a John TOI age 40 from Hayle, Cornwall living at 30, Singleton St, Swansea together with his son, John age 14, and daughter Catherine age 11 both born in Swansea. They were living with and related to a COOK family. I then looked-up the FreeBMD index and found a marriage for a John TOY in 1886 in Swansea. I then displayed the list of potential wives on the same index page and found a listing for an Edith COOK. I then went back to the 1881 Census and saw that John TOI's niece was a Edith COOK aged 11 and that she was born in Hayle, Cornwall. Did John TOI sr marry his niece, Edith COOK ? Did George TOI decide to become Scottish when he found out that his mother was also his cousin ? Would SKS like to check the 1891 census of Swansea and see if they are still listed in Singleton St ? ( I suspect not ! ) Any other info/suggestions gratefully received. Bernard Phoenix, Arizona

Hi Pat, Just wondering if any of your Fisher's came to Australia as my son's paternal grandfather was a Fisher. I haven't got much information on him as I haven't started researching his line yet. Regards Christine in sunny Queensland All e-mail virus free Checked by PC-cillin6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "pat cook" <vernoncook@grimsby74.freeserve.co.uk> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 7:34 AM Subject: [Swansea] Gower Registrars Address Please > Can anybody give me the Registrar's address for the reg district Gower > please, want to send away for a marriage cert. > > TIA > > Pat in Grimsby, Lincolnshire. > > Researching; > Devon; COCKRAM,CRUDGE,LAKE,FISHER, > Somerset,WESTERN,LEE,TIBBS > Lincolnshire; STEAD, SMITH, LEE, SCARBY, DUNNILL ,FREEBOROUGH > ,ROSSINGTON ,METCALF(E) > ,THOMPSON > Yorkshire; STEAD, SMITH, JARVIS, THOMPSON, DUNNILL/HILL > Hunts; SMITH, ELLIS > Notts. WATERFIELD > Bristol; COOK.LEE,WILLIAMS.WESTERN,ALLEN > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm >

Hi, Christine, Saw you query regards the name Fisher and that you live in Queensland. I have family in Queensland and last year I obtained a copy of The Bundaberg & District Pioneers Book. In the Directory part of the book there are several Fishers mentioned so I thought I would send them on to you just in case they are yours. 1. George James Fisher, born circa 1863, he was a railway fireman and in June 1898 he was residing at the Railway station, North Bundaberg. 2. Henry Fisher, in 1875 he was in the Bundaberg district. 3. Isaac Fisher, in the Bundaberg electoral register of August 1894, he is marked as 'left'. 4. James Fisher, in October 1887 he was living on Walla Street, Bundaberg. 5. James Ashworth Fisher, son of James Fisher was born circa 1868 at Bradford, Yorkshire. He died at Woondooma Street, Bundaberg in December, 1898, and was buried at Bundaberg on the 14th of December, 1898. He was a labourer and resided at Bundaberg. 6. William Fisher in October 1887 he was living on the Bingera Plantation. These are the only entries in the book. Hope they help your research. Best wishes, Ron Hamilton.