Hello, Charles: I would like to find out about her family. We do not know anything. My family is here and if you will allow me to get back to you next week I will give you the info I have on her. Regards, Bette

Bette What information would you like to find out?? Charles _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Hi, I see you have Watkins in your name. My grandmother was named Mary Ann Watkins and married Llewellyn Llewellyn in 1870 I think they were married. Any information would be appreciated. Bette

Anyone got any ifnroamrtion about the Blackmore's of Swansea Many thanks Charles _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Hi Pat, Thanks for your reply. Free BMD allows one to click on "district" or "page" but not on "vol" e.g. 11a. I was hoping that the 11a might indicate what church or what local town/village within the Registration District. No such luck though. I will most likely have to take a punt and order the marriage cert. Merv. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Kelly" <PKELLY@nerquis.fsnet.co.uk> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [Swansea] Free BMD #11a; What area? > Hi > If you click on 11a it should come up with the info re the district > Pat > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Merv Goss" <mgoss@kiwi.net.nz> > To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 9:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Swansea] Free BMD #11a; What area? > > > > Hi Tom, Thanks for your reply, however I am now more confused! Maybe it's > my > > lack of understanding. The 11a is part of the result on Free BMD for a > > marriage of a couple in the June Qtr of 1898, Pembroke. I thought that the > > 11a would signify which parish?? Merv. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Tomthechair@aol.com> > > To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 3:38 AM > > Subject: Re: [Swansea] Free BMD #11a; What area? > > > > > > > Hello,Merv, > > > It depends what period you are talking about.Early on in the 19th > c/maybe > > 4 > > > or 5 > > > but in the latter part of the c. any amount !! > > > Regards, > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > > > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > > > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > > > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > > > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm

Hi If you click on 11a it should come up with the info re the district Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merv Goss" <mgoss@kiwi.net.nz> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [Swansea] Free BMD #11a; What area? > Hi Tom, Thanks for your reply, however I am now more confused! Maybe it's my > lack of understanding. The 11a is part of the result on Free BMD for a > marriage of a couple in the June Qtr of 1898, Pembroke. I thought that the > 11a would signify which parish?? Merv. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Tomthechair@aol.com> > To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 3:38 AM > Subject: Re: [Swansea] Free BMD #11a; What area? > > > > Hello,Merv, > > It depends what period you are talking about.Early on in the 19th c/maybe > 4 > > or 5 > > but in the latter part of the c. any amount !! > > Regards, > > Tom > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > >

St. John's is the parish between Llangyfelach Parish & Swansea St.Mary's. It consisted of Cwmbwrla, Manselton, parts of Hafod. What's the address on the certificate? Heulwen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernard Alexander" <moonraker00@msn.com> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 6:21 PM Subject: [Swansea] Parish of St.John's Juxta Swansea and the 1891 Census > Hello Listers, > > I have recently obtained a copy of a marriage certificate that showed the above parish. > Is this parish small or remote that it might help with a search of the 1891 Census ? > > Bernard > Phoenix, Arizona > > ______________________________

Hi Merv. 11a covered the whole of South Wales. Pembroke limits it to the Pembroke registration district. which probably contained dozens of parishes. If you go to the GRO website you will find that you can order the certificate online or by phone, and as you have the full reference it will only cost you 8 UKpounds, which can be by credit card. Writing to Pembroke superintendent registrar will perhaps get you the cert. for 6.50 UK pounds, but may get you nothing if they can't find which church it was in. Once you get the certificate then a lot more information will rapidly open up to you. The FreeBMD site has quite a helpful link which pops up after a search has been successful, along the lines of ' What do I do now?' with web addresses, postal addresses and phone numbers. Jeff Glamorgan FHS 1287 Transcriber for FreeBMD ----- Original Message ----- From: Merv Goss <mgoss@kiwi.net.nz> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [Swansea] Free BMD #11a; What area? > Hi Anne, Thanks for your reply. I thought the number would indicate which > registration district within a main registration area. I will have to try > another idea. Thanks for the help. Merv. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne" <docwras@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 12:02 AM > Subject: Re: [Swansea] Free BMD #11a; What area? > > > > Saturday, July 20, 2002, 5:23:26 AM, Merv wrote: > > > > MG> Could sks advise what parish or church would 11a indicate? TIA Merv > > > > > > Merv, > > > > The 11a is a civil registration area code as opposed to a parish or > > church records area, so it would be anywhere within the Swansea > > registration district. See http://freebmd.rootsweb.com for searches of > > FreeBMD on-line. > > > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Anne mailto:docwras@yahoo.co.uk > > > > http://resource.at/docwra Docwra Family Research Project > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm >

Hi Anne, Thanks for your reply. I thought the number would indicate which registration district within a main registration area. I will have to try another idea. Thanks for the help. Merv. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne" <docwras@yahoo.co.uk> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [Swansea] Free BMD #11a; What area? > Saturday, July 20, 2002, 5:23:26 AM, Merv wrote: > > MG> Could sks advise what parish or church would 11a indicate? TIA Merv > > > Merv, > > The 11a is a civil registration area code as opposed to a parish or > church records area, so it would be anywhere within the Swansea > registration district. See http://freebmd.rootsweb.com for searches of > FreeBMD on-line. > > > -- > Cheers, > Anne mailto:docwras@yahoo.co.uk > > http://resource.at/docwra Docwra Family Research Project > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm

Hi Tom, Thanks for your reply, however I am now more confused! Maybe it's my lack of understanding. The 11a is part of the result on Free BMD for a marriage of a couple in the June Qtr of 1898, Pembroke. I thought that the 11a would signify which parish?? Merv. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tomthechair@aol.com> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [Swansea] Free BMD #11a; What area? > Hello,Merv, > It depends what period you are talking about.Early on in the 19th c/maybe 4 > or 5 > but in the latter part of the c. any amount !! > Regards, > Tom > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm

hi,oh dear! you appear to have the same problem as I had when trying to get info on my maternal ancestors. My great gandfather is listed on the 1881 census as William Jennett,on his marriage certificate he is listed as Frederic Jennett. On all the other censuses ,he is down as William .The inscription on his gravestone is William .To add to the confusion ,on my mother's birth certificate ,my gran is listed as being nee JEMMETT(not Jennet),. As my grt grandfather gave his place of birth as Hambleden (small village)in Bucks ,I have been most fortunate to receive info that, firstly ,there were no Jennett's there in the mid 1800's and to put the icing on the cake I have made contact with a distant cousin in New Zealand who has given me so much info on the Jemmett's .It appears that he was Frederic ,his brother was William. As his brother William married in Bucks (Fred came and married in Wales) I knew that he couldn't possibly be William .I have actually come to the conclusion that he must have been Frederic Wiliam or vice versa, or as they were such a big family he might have been confused as to his name (joke).Another possibility could be that he didn't want to be known as Frederic for some reason .To add to the confusion ,his age was different on census/certificates .This I can understand ,quite normal for people in those days not to know their exact age . The difference in surname is quite understandable ,mis -spelling quite common too . Hope you get to the bottom of it. regards Buddug Hollett

I'm in a bit of a quandary of what records of parents' names to 'believe' - For instance, the marriage cert of my g-grandparents gives the bride's father as James. The original parish records entry of her birth, however, gives his name as John. In another example, the parish records of a marriage give the groom's father as David, whereas a few years later the groom's death cert says his father, John, was present at the death. Should I go for the parent's name stated on the official certificate, or the parish records? The only reason I can think of for this discrepancy in names is that one is the proper name of the parent and the other is the name he or she preferred to be known by - but surely in an official record the proper name, not a nickname, would be recorded - I'd appreciate any comments on this, and any advice on which name to 'go for'. Thanks Valerie

Dear Listers, I am looking for anyone who might have information about my great grandparents. They were both born in Wales. There are so many people with the same names that it has been difficult researching even locally. I am going to Ireland to attend a wedding and I am hoping to come to Wales. It might be more helpful to research there. But I think I will need more information. Here is what I know: Joseph Daffyd? Thomas Great Grandfather Born 1832 either Merthyr Tydfil or Pontypridd ,Wales Died 1910 Buried Akron, Ohio USA Margaret Davis Great Grandmother Born 1840 Briton Ferry, Wales Died 1882 Buried Akron, Ohio USA I don't know if they were married in the United States or in Wales. Here are some of the names of the children: Elizabeth Thomas Bushman Benjamin Thomas Joseph Thomas Nell Thomas McGinnis (my grandmother) aka Eleanor, Ellen William Thomas Melzer Thomas Mae Thomas Grinnell (at her funeral the funeral card said Portia Sarah) It's been difficult putting the pieces together because most of the people who would be helpful have long gone to their reward. And I'm not getting any younger. My mother's cousin, Mildred Thomas Binkley visited relatives in Wales when I was a child. I remember she brought pictures to our home of that trip. Probably late 1940's. I tried to contact another man on a message board who was researching the same family. but got no response. He mentioned that Joseph Thomas sung before Queen Victoria . I don't know anything about this or if he sang alone or with a group. I do know that his first trip to the United States was with a Welsh Choir. Also my mother's cousins included Porters and Reeses(Rees). Some of the Thomases and the Porters were circus acrobats. I remember seeing them when I was a child. I believe one named Buster Thomas (deceased) held a record for one acrobatic feat. My grandmother was born in what is now Akron, Ohio but was known as Thomastown. If anyone has come across any of these people, would you be kind enough to drop me an e-mail? Thank you so much, Generose smarks1@neo.com Akron, Ohio USA

If Michael Leary was born in Swansea in 1831 what Catholic church would he have been baptized in? Thanks. Don O'Leary Indianapolis, IN USA

Could sks advise what parish or church would 11a indicate? TIA Merv

Dockwra mill, somewhere in Swansea, had a rolling mill installed in 1697 (allegedly the first in Wales) and made brass pins. Does anyone know more about it, where it was situated or which Dockwra owned it? Any snippets very welcome, thanks :-) -- Cheers, Anne mailto:docwras@yahoo.co.uk http://resource.at/docwra Docwra Family Research Project

Saturday, July 20, 2002, 5:23:26 AM, Merv wrote: MG> Could sks advise what parish or church would 11a indicate? TIA Merv Merv, The 11a is a civil registration area code as opposed to a parish or church records area, so it would be anywhere within the Swansea registration district. See http://freebmd.rootsweb.com for searches of FreeBMD on-line. -- Cheers, Anne mailto:docwras@yahoo.co.uk http://resource.at/docwra Docwra Family Research Project

Hello,Merv, It depends what period you are talking about.Early on in the 19th c/maybe 4 or 5 but in the latter part of the c. any amount !! Regards, Tom

Hello Listers, I have recently obtained a copy of a marriage certificate that showed the above parish. Is this parish small or remote that it might help with a search of the 1891 Census ? Bernard Phoenix, Arizona

Hello Listers, I have recently obtained a copy of a marriage certificate that showed the above parish. Is this parish small or remote that it might help with a search of the 1891 Census ? Bernard Phoenix, Arizona