They're held at Swansea Archives. www.swansea.gov.uk/archives/famhistresources.htm archives@swansea.gov.uk HJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "k.hammond" <k.hammond@onvol.net> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 5:32 AM Subject: Re: [Swansea] WJ DAVIES > HI, > Does Anyone have access to the marriage registers for cockett st > peters? im looking for 3 marriagees of the name WILLETT between 1901- 10 can > anyone please help?Thanks a million. > > keith malta. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Diehard <diehard1967@shaw.ca> > To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:17 AM > Subject: Re: [Swansea] WJ DAVIES > > > > Hi Alwyn, the census for 1901 just says, > > Cockett Sketty, > > Civil Parish; Cockett Sketty, > > Town; Cockett Sketty. > > I don't know if that helps any. Thanks Dianne > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alwyn Jenkins" <B4ANY@swansea3.fsnet.co.uk> > > To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 5:20 PM > > Subject: Re: [Swansea] WJ DAVIES > > > > > > > Hi Dianne, > > > Marriage certificate would show him as widower. Census doesn't > > > differentiate. > > > Cockett is part of Fforestfach, but the part that, in 1901, was in > Cockett > > > Parish as opposed to Llangyfelach Parish. In 1881 (& possibly 1891) > Census > > > it would probably have been "Swansea Higher". > > > Do you have an address from the 1901? > > > The census was in April. > > > Let me know if I can be of anymore help. > > > Heulwen > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Diehard" <diehard1967@shaw.ca> > > > To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:59 PM > > > Subject: [Swansea] WJ DAVIES > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, in my quest to find ggramps, I found a William John > DAVIES > > > who was 12 in 1901, can anyone tell me when the census was taken, month > > > wise. > > > > This WJ was born in Cockett, which rumour has it me ggramps was from, > > why > > > though on the census does it say Cockett Sketty, when I looked on that > map > > > website, Cockett and Sketty have Cwmgwyn between them, so I don't > believe > > > theyre the same place. Also when a man remarries, does it say anywhere, > eg > > > census or marriage certificate, that this is a second wife? . I hate > this > > > time difference thingy between Wales and Canada, cause I have just > > finished > > > work and I'm gung ho to start researching and you guys are heading for > the > > > sack, anyway Na Night. > > > > Dianne in Canada, > > > > Yorkshire born and bred. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > > > > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > > > > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > > > > Glamorgan Family History Society > http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > > > > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > > > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > > > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > > > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > > > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > >

To everyone on the list that has gone out of their way to help me, a sincere thank you. Dianne in Canada, Yorkshire born and bred.

HI, Does Anyone have access to the marriage registers for cockett st peters? im looking for 3 marriagees of the name WILLETT between 1901- 10 can anyone please help?Thanks a million. keith malta. ----- Original Message ----- From: Diehard <diehard1967@shaw.ca> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:17 AM Subject: Re: [Swansea] WJ DAVIES > Hi Alwyn, the census for 1901 just says, > Cockett Sketty, > Civil Parish; Cockett Sketty, > Town; Cockett Sketty. > I don't know if that helps any. Thanks Dianne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alwyn Jenkins" <B4ANY@swansea3.fsnet.co.uk> > To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 5:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Swansea] WJ DAVIES > > > > Hi Dianne, > > Marriage certificate would show him as widower. Census doesn't > > differentiate. > > Cockett is part of Fforestfach, but the part that, in 1901, was in Cockett > > Parish as opposed to Llangyfelach Parish. In 1881 (& possibly 1891) Census > > it would probably have been "Swansea Higher". > > Do you have an address from the 1901? > > The census was in April. > > Let me know if I can be of anymore help. > > Heulwen > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Diehard" <diehard1967@shaw.ca> > > To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:59 PM > > Subject: [Swansea] WJ DAVIES > > > > > > > Hi everyone, in my quest to find ggramps, I found a William John DAVIES > > who was 12 in 1901, can anyone tell me when the census was taken, month > > wise. > > > This WJ was born in Cockett, which rumour has it me ggramps was from, > why > > though on the census does it say Cockett Sketty, when I looked on that map > > website, Cockett and Sketty have Cwmgwyn between them, so I don't believe > > theyre the same place. Also when a man remarries, does it say anywhere, eg > > census or marriage certificate, that this is a second wife? . I hate this > > time difference thingy between Wales and Canada, cause I have just > finished > > work and I'm gung ho to start researching and you guys are heading for the > > sack, anyway Na Night. > > > Dianne in Canada, > > > Yorkshire born and bred. > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > > > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > > > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > > > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > > > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm >

Hi Dianne, Marriage certificate would show him as widower. Census doesn't differentiate. Cockett is part of Fforestfach, but the part that, in 1901, was in Cockett Parish as opposed to Llangyfelach Parish. In 1881 (& possibly 1891) Census it would probably have been "Swansea Higher". Do you have an address from the 1901? The census was in April. Let me know if I can be of anymore help. Heulwen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diehard" <diehard1967@shaw.ca> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:59 PM Subject: [Swansea] WJ DAVIES > Hi everyone, in my quest to find ggramps, I found a William John DAVIES who was 12 in 1901, can anyone tell me when the census was taken, month wise. > This WJ was born in Cockett, which rumour has it me ggramps was from, why though on the census does it say Cockett Sketty, when I looked on that map website, Cockett and Sketty have Cwmgwyn between them, so I don't believe theyre the same place. Also when a man remarries, does it say anywhere, eg census or marriage certificate, that this is a second wife? . I hate this time difference thingy between Wales and Canada, cause I have just finished work and I'm gung ho to start researching and you guys are heading for the sack, anyway Na Night. > Dianne in Canada, > Yorkshire born and bred. > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > >

Hi Alwyn, the census for 1901 just says, Cockett Sketty, Civil Parish; Cockett Sketty, Town; Cockett Sketty. I don't know if that helps any. Thanks Dianne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alwyn Jenkins" <B4ANY@swansea3.fsnet.co.uk> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Swansea] WJ DAVIES > Hi Dianne, > Marriage certificate would show him as widower. Census doesn't > differentiate. > Cockett is part of Fforestfach, but the part that, in 1901, was in Cockett > Parish as opposed to Llangyfelach Parish. In 1881 (& possibly 1891) Census > it would probably have been "Swansea Higher". > Do you have an address from the 1901? > The census was in April. > Let me know if I can be of anymore help. > Heulwen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diehard" <diehard1967@shaw.ca> > To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:59 PM > Subject: [Swansea] WJ DAVIES > > > > Hi everyone, in my quest to find ggramps, I found a William John DAVIES > who was 12 in 1901, can anyone tell me when the census was taken, month > wise. > > This WJ was born in Cockett, which rumour has it me ggramps was from, why > though on the census does it say Cockett Sketty, when I looked on that map > website, Cockett and Sketty have Cwmgwyn between them, so I don't believe > theyre the same place. Also when a man remarries, does it say anywhere, eg > census or marriage certificate, that this is a second wife? . I hate this > time difference thingy between Wales and Canada, cause I have just finished > work and I'm gung ho to start researching and you guys are heading for the > sack, anyway Na Night. > > Dianne in Canada, > > Yorkshire born and bred. > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm >

Hi everyone, in my quest to find ggramps, I found a William John DAVIES who was 12 in 1901, can anyone tell me when the census was taken, month wise. This WJ was born in Cockett, which rumour has it me ggramps was from, why though on the census does it say Cockett Sketty, when I looked on that map website, Cockett and Sketty have Cwmgwyn between them, so I don't believe theyre the same place. Also when a man remarries, does it say anywhere, eg census or marriage certificate, that this is a second wife? . I hate this time difference thingy between Wales and Canada, cause I have just finished work and I'm gung ho to start researching and you guys are heading for the sack, anyway Na Night. Dianne in Canada, Yorkshire born and bred.

Hi.Chris. Though I am not able to assist you in your search for the "John Jones" you are enquiring about, I have an amusing thought. My name is John Jones too, the only other "John Jones" I have so fa discovered in my treeis my gt.gt.gt Grandfather. He was a "John Jones" of Swansea my line comes down via his son "William Jones", now I have only discovered 1 other son to "John Jones" so far and he was a "David". I am sure there must have been a "John" too, and that if there was a "John" then he would have probably had a sone named "John" who may or may not have been your "John Jones" because the family also moved up valley generation to generation. What brings a smile is the fact that you are seeking for a namesake of mine that could be relative of mine, and you live in South Bend, Indiana which is just a few miles from where I met my wife :-) We lived in Bristol nr. SB for a year before coming back to Wales in 1988. What a small and strange world this truly is. Much success in your searches. John Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: cclark2 To: WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: [Swansea] Jones in 1861 Llansamlet If anyone has access to the 1861 census for Llansamlet and is willing to take a look for me, I'd be much obliged. I am looking for this family: John JONES, head [wife may be Sarah, age 39] David, age 5 Catherine, age 7 Jennet, age 9 Ages should be close. There may be other children. The three children listed were born in Llansamlet. -- Chris Clark [g-grandson of Catherine] South Bend, Indiana, USA ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002

It was very common practice in Wales for the interment or cremation to be 'Men only', though normally at a service at a church, chapel, or funeral home beforehand ladies would be present. It was not the practice for children to attend. Thinking back I can recall men-only funerals in the late 1970s, but by the mid-1980s the tradition seems to have changed, though as in all social customs there was probably a gradual change as the percentages of men-only interments or cremations decreased. My wife's family from England were not familiar with a men-only tradition, so it may have been distinctively Welsh. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Diehard <diehard1967@shaw.ca> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 2:08 AM Subject: [Swansea] William John Davies > Hi list, My GGramps died some time in the 1970's, I was a kid and a girl, I remember my great nanna wasn't allowed to go to his funeral because she was a woman, at least thats what they told me at the time, anyway are there any on line newspaper archives where I could look for obituaries, he lived in Llanelli when he died, are there many churches in Llanelli, ones that don't allow women, (whatever religion that is), oops I made a mistake, they lived at 75 Culfor Road, Loughor. So does anyone know of a church near there, that would be a start cause I'm hoping his parents were mentioned on his gravestone, and as I live in Canada now, I'm also hoping someone who lives in Loughor might like to take a walk to the church yard on the next sunny day, maybe the dog needs a walk or something. I don't want to put anyone out, any little bit of help is greatly appreciated. Here's the info. > William John DAVIES, born 1890, died 1970something, > husband of Annie Boston DOWNES, of course it may say Ann DAVIES, She might be there with him, but he died first, she died in the 1980's sometime. sorry bout the length thing again. > Dianne in Canada, > Yorkshire born and bred. >

My Mum died in 1980 and my brother and I flew home for the funeral. My Aunts and Uncles were very upset with me because I went to the funeral.. But I didn't fly 6000 miles not to go and also be there with my brother. I am original from England and it is not the same there. I remember my brother standing in for my Mum when her Dad died. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "J S Coleman" <user@jeffcoleman.softnet.co.uk> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 6:19 AM Subject: Re: [Swansea] Men-only funerals (was William John Davies) > It was very common practice in Wales for the interment or cremation to be > 'Men only', though normally at a service at a church, chapel, or funeral > home beforehand ladies would be present. It was not the practice for > children to attend. Thinking back I can recall men-only funerals in the late > 1970s, but by the mid-1980s the tradition seems to have changed, though as > in all social customs there was probably a gradual change as the percentages > of men-only interments or cremations decreased. > > My wife's family from England were not familiar with a men-only tradition, > so it may have been distinctively Welsh. > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Diehard <diehard1967@shaw.ca> > To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 2:08 AM > Subject: [Swansea] William John Davies > > > > Hi list, My GGramps died some time in the 1970's, I was a kid and a girl, > I remember my great nanna wasn't allowed to go to his funeral because she > was a woman, at least thats what they told me at the time, anyway are there > any on line newspaper archives where I could look for obituaries, he lived > in Llanelli when he died, are there many churches in Llanelli, ones that > don't allow women, (whatever religion that is), oops I made a mistake, they > lived at 75 Culfor Road, Loughor. So does anyone know of a church near > there, that would be a start cause I'm hoping his parents were mentioned on > his gravestone, and as I live in Canada now, I'm also hoping someone who > lives in Loughor might like to take a walk to the church yard on the next > sunny day, maybe the dog needs a walk or something. I don't want to put > anyone out, any little bit of help is greatly appreciated. Here's the info. > > William John DAVIES, born 1890, died 1970something, > > husband of Annie Boston DOWNES, of course it may say Ann DAVIES, She might > be there with him, but he died first, she died in the 1980's sometime. sorry > bout the length thing again. > > Dianne in Canada, > > Yorkshire born and bred. > > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 10/3/2002

Here, on the 1891 census, is William J age 1 month. This is the one Graham found. It happens to be an area that I am transcribing for GFHS. Whether this is your William J I don't know. You need to find his father's name from his marriage certificate, or try to order a birth certificate in his name with the date of birth your mother gave you. 12 302 EARL STREET 16 DAVIES GEORGE HD M 36 COPPER SHEARER GLA SWANSEA 12 302 EARL STREET 16 DAVIES ANN WI M 40 GLA SWANSEA 12 302 EARL STREET 16 DAVIES ISAAC SO S 6 SCHOLAR GLA SWANSEA 12 302 EARL STREET 16 DAVIES MARY E DA S 4 SCHOLAR GLA SWANSEA 12 302 EARL STREET 16 WILLIAMS ELIZABETH ML W 64 ON OWN MEANS GLA SWANSEA 12 302 EARL STREET 16 DAVIES WILLIAM J SO S 1M GLA SWANSEA Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Diehard <diehard1967@shaw.ca> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [Swansea] WILLIAM JOHN DAVIES,of Swansea,b.c;1890. > Thanks alot, I don't know if it's him, I just called my mum in England and > woke her up, oops. She said he was born March 28th 1890, so thats really > close. Auntie Jean did think his Dad might have been Thomas tho, ah well, > she's been wrong before. Thanks again, Dianne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <robert.williams438@ntlworld.co.uk> > To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 3:02 PM > Subject: [Swansea] WILLIAM JOHN DAVIES,of Swansea,b.c;1890. > > > > Hi Dianne,Ive looked in the Swansea St;Marys Registers of 1838-1900,and > foundthis one for you.Dont know if hes yours?..William John Davies,baptised > 17th;June 1891,aged 2 months.The son of George(a copper Shearer of 16 Earl > Street,Hafod,Swansea)and Ann.There were no others baptised around the 1890 > period,in Swansea St;Marys. Graham. > > > > R.Graham Williams,Glam;FHS;#551.Coventry FHS;#800.Of Canton,Cardiff.South > Glamorgan,South Wales,U.K; > > > > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > > > > ______________________________

Thankyou to Jeff and graham for your help, where would a person order a birth certificate if they don't know the church or specifically where the person was born? Dianne in Canada, Yorkshire born and bred.

Hi Dianne,Ive looked in the Swansea St;Marys Registers of 1838-1900,and foundthis one for you.Dont know if hes yours?..William John Davies,baptised 17th;June 1891,aged 2 months.The son of George(a copper Shearer of 16 Earl Street,Hafod,Swansea)and Ann.There were no others baptised around the 1890 period,in Swansea St;Marys. Graham. R.Graham Williams,Glam;FHS;#551.Coventry FHS;#800.Of Canton,Cardiff.South Glamorgan,South Wales,U.K;

Perhaps you'd have more luck on the GLAMORGAN List @ rootsweb. Good hunting HJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "cclark2" <cclark2@nd.edu> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: [Swansea] Jones in 1861 Llansamlet > If anyone has access to the 1861 census for Llansamlet and is willing to take > a look for me, I'd be much obliged. I am looking for this family: > John JONES, head > [wife may be Sarah, age 39] > David, age 5 > Catherine, age 7 > Jennet, age 9 > Ages should be close. There may be other children. The three children listed > were born in Llansamlet. > > -- Chris Clark [g-grandson of Catherine] > South Bend, Indiana, USA > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > >

Hi list, My GGramps died some time in the 1970's, I was a kid and a girl, I remember my great nanna wasn't allowed to go to his funeral because she was a woman, at least thats what they told me at the time, anyway are there any on line newspaper archives where I could look for obituaries, he lived in Llanelli when he died, are there many churches in Llanelli, ones that don't allow women, (whatever religion that is), oops I made a mistake, they lived at 75 Culfor Road, Loughor. So does anyone know of a church near there, that would be a start cause I'm hoping his parents were mentioned on his gravestone, and as I live in Canada now, I'm also hoping someone who lives in Loughor might like to take a walk to the church yard on the next sunny day, maybe the dog needs a walk or something. I don't want to put anyone out, any little bit of help is greatly appreciated. Here's the info. William John DAVIES, born 1890, died 1970something, husband of Annie Boston DOWNES, of course it may say Ann DAVIES, She might be there with him, but he died first, she died in the 1980's sometime. sorry bout the length thing again. Dianne in Canada, Yorkshire born and bred.

Hi Betsy. You asked about "Railey" in Swansea on the 1851 census. Sorry dear, there appears to be no "Railey" in Glamorgan in 1851. Good Luck John. ----- Original Message ----- From: Betsy Rubel To: WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 2:14 PM Subject: [Swansea] Railey I am so excited! I found my Irish COLLINS ancestors in Swansea. So far the only birth registered that I can find is Daniel J Collins but I found his mothers maiden name. I wonder if anyone has access to 1851 Census? I know there were other children and wonder if perhaps they were with RAILEY family...Could any one do a quick check for RAILEY in Swansea? If there are any, I will grab the film from the FHL... Thanks so much Betsy Rubel beharu@attbi.com G O R V E T T pages http://www.angelfire.com/ct2/beharu/index1.html ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2002

Thanks alot, I don't know if it's him, I just called my mum in England and woke her up, oops. She said he was born March 28th 1890, so thats really close. Auntie Jean did think his Dad might have been Thomas tho, ah well, she's been wrong before. Thanks again, Dianne ----- Original Message ----- From: <robert.williams438@ntlworld.co.uk> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 3:02 PM Subject: [Swansea] WILLIAM JOHN DAVIES,of Swansea,b.c;1890. > Hi Dianne,Ive looked in the Swansea St;Marys Registers of 1838-1900,and foundthis one for you.Dont know if hes yours?..William John Davies,baptised 17th;June 1891,aged 2 months.The son of George(a copper Shearer of 16 Earl Street,Hafod,Swansea)and Ann.There were no others baptised around the 1890 period,in Swansea St;Marys. Graham. > > R.Graham Williams,Glam;FHS;#551.Coventry FHS;#800.Of Canton,Cardiff.South Glamorgan,South Wales,U.K; > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm >

If anyone has access to the 1861 census for Llansamlet and is willing to take a look for me, I'd be much obliged. I am looking for this family: John JONES, head [wife may be Sarah, age 39] David, age 5 Catherine, age 7 Jennet, age 9 Ages should be close. There may be other children. The three children listed were born in Llansamlet. -- Chris Clark [g-grandson of Catherine] South Bend, Indiana, USA

I am so excited! I found my Irish COLLINS ancestors in Swansea. So far the only birth registered that I can find is Daniel J Collins but I found his mothers maiden name. I wonder if anyone has access to 1851 Census? I know there were other children and wonder if perhaps they were with RAILEY family...Could any one do a quick check for RAILEY in Swansea? If there are any, I will grab the film from the FHL... Thanks so much Betsy Rubel beharu@attbi.com G O R V E T T pages http://www.angelfire.com/ct2/beharu/index1.html

Where were they in 1851? H.J. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Annibyniaeth@aol.com> To: <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 3:10 PM Subject: [Swansea] my interests > Hello, > I have just joined the list. My gg grandfather was Richard Price. he > was born about 1815, in Swansea. He married a Margaret ? and they had two > sons, William about 1840 and my ggrandfather Philip about 1835. My > grandfather was David Price, who first married a Martha Thomas and had a son > Philip in 1895. Philip was killed in the great war 1915 Dardanelles. I don't > know when Martha died, but David married Laura Preece in Cardiff 1913. I > would like to know something about Richard and Margaret. I have them on the > 1851 census but although they say they were born in Swansea, I can't find any > trace of them on the 1841 census. Just hoping that someone on this list is > looking at the same people. any help would be greatly appreciated. > cheers, > Deri > > > ==== WLS-SWANSEA Mailing List ==== > Swansea History Site http://www.swanseahistoryweb.org.uk/ > Genuki Swansea Site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ > Glamorgan Family History Society http://website.lineone.net/~glamfhsoc/ > City/County of Swansea http://www.swansea.gov.uk/default.htm > >

new suscriber .Would any "lister" be so kind and see if my grandparents were living in Swansea in 1891 the 1st of their children was born there in 1892 so am assuming they got married in 1891 but so far cannot trace their marriage .Their names were Howell Davies born Carmarthan 1862 and Margaret Williams born Pembrokeshire 1886/68 [Solva] If not married would it please be possible to locate them as living as "boarders" maybe. I know I am asking a lot but have been looking for a long time now and am getting desperate.Regards Alun.