Hello, Would anyone happen to know whether St. Cwrda of Jordanstown is the same saint as St. Cawrdaf? In view of the apparent similarity of name, one would suppose that they were; but it's always nice to check (especially as I'm a non-Welsh-speaker). Another saint who seems to lose his final "f" on occasion is St. Gwyndaf - or Gwynda. Confusingly, Llanwnda, Pembs., is described as having St. Gwyndaf for its patron; but another site lists the patron saint as being Cawrdaf! I'm sure there must be some simple explanation ... would anyone be able to shed any light ?? Best regards, and Happy New Year to everyone, Jean Kelly

Dear Jean, Happy New Year to you too. In Laws "The History of Little England Beyond Wales page 55 a reference is made to a publication named Rees's Welsh Saints......I don't have any more information, unfortunately, but someone may know of it. Under the heading of "Armorican", Laws gives the information that Gwyndaf was a son of Emyr Llydaw, an Amorican regulus, and that Emyr was a nephew of Garmon, Bishop of Auxerre. Gwyndaf is said to have founded Llanwnda....and if split into two words "Llan wnda" I can understand how it gained the name. Hermon's Hill in Haverfordwest is presumed to take its name from Garmon. As Garmon led a mission in the 5th. century, I would surmise that the names, like other aspects of the local language evolved with time, but I am willing to stand corrected. Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Kelly" <jeffcob@onetel.com> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 7:21 AM Subject: [WLS-PEM] St. Cwrda, Jordanstown, Pembs.; St. Cawrdaf; St. Gwyndaf > Hello, > > Would anyone happen to know whether St. Cwrda of Jordanstown is the same > saint as St. Cawrdaf? In view of the apparent similarity of name, one > would suppose that they were; but it's always nice to check (especially > as I'm a non-Welsh-speaker). Another saint who seems to lose his final > "f" on occasion is St. Gwyndaf - or Gwynda. Confusingly, Llanwnda, > Pembs., is described as having St. Gwyndaf for its patron; but another > site lists the patron saint as being Cawrdaf! I'm sure there must be > some simple explanation ... would anyone be able to shed any light ?? > > Best regards, and Happy New Year to everyone, > > Jean Kelly > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Welsh Family History Archive http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm >