Hello again, Yes, my records are close, except that the George (Baddam) you have as abt.1785, I chose to date about 1780 (died before 1841c), because he was married on May 7,1803, without any mention of parental consent, to Elizabeth Morgan. I have a copy of his marriage in Begelly [PRO ref MF276]. Tho.S.I.Thomas,Rector; in the presence of John Jones and Susan Parsell. George's 2nd son was WILLIAM, b.1811 d.1868, married Esther Davies: my GGGparents. George's 5th son was Thomas, b.1819, married Mary Childs, Oct 22, 1848. John Baddam, I presume to be George's brother, because they had a double wedding on May 7th, 1803. John married Ann Sanders. His 1st son was also a William b. Jan 1804. The Thomas who married Elizabeth Nash, was JOHN's 2nd known son..b.Nov 1809. John's other children were: George b.Feb 1811, m.Mary Ann Davies Dec 1839, head of Manorbier Badhams, my 5th cousin's gggparents. Sarah b. aug 1817 m. Thomas Davies Dec 19, 1835 I hope that helps, Rachel Allan Richards <allanandmadge@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi again, Getting a bit muddled here trying to fill in the gaps. George Badham abt.1785 - was my husband Allan's 3 x Gt . Grandfather and he is descended from George's son Thomas. You and Allan have a common ancestor in George abt. 1785 and you are descended from William son of George and brother of Thomas. I have found a marriage for William to Esther Davies in 1834 at Begelly, please will you confirm that this is correct. By the way there are still many Badhams in this area. Regards Frances