Nice chap in H"west John Hart don"t know how much he knows Tony Rogers ----- Original Message ----- From: "nick hart" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Harts in Pembroke > Dear Bettye > > Well thanks for the information and sorry for the > belated reply. But I have been going in circles over > the last few weeks rather like the mythical bird with > one short wing. > > The information is very much along the lines that I > suspect but proving it is going to be an up hill > struggle. In the IGI records William and Mary from > Talbenny are recorded as having a daughter Elizabeth > christened 24 May 1818. But no further information is > forth coming. > > The church records are very silent about Liz as well. > Seemingly there was a Tabernacle in Little Haven > [Independents, c 1812] but where their records are > kept is something of a mystery. So I am currently > trying to find out where Liz's record sprang from. So > it going to be off to the local Family History Centre > to see what they can suggest. > > I am going back to Pembroke this summer (I don't live > quite as remote as you. Just the north of England. ) > so I will have to make some time to visit > Haverfordwest and have a dig through the records and > see what they reveal. Currently I am working from > indexes and transcripts. > > If any one out there knows where the Tabernacle > records for Talbenny / Little Haven are kept I would > be very grateful > > Further if any one has access to the 1841 / 51 census > are there any Harts in Talbenny at this time? > > If I run across the name of Mackan, or what ever, I > will let you know but I suspect that anything I find > you will probably already have. > > Good Hunting > > Nick > > > > > --- BJ & LC Kirkwood <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Nick, > > > > John may never have been baptised, but the Talbenny > > church records should > > possibly be checked. Your John Hart married > > Margaret Twigg in 1833 at > > Hayscastle. I presume the parish register entry > > will have witness names > > which might give more clues, although you said it > > was uninformative. > > > > As John's age was 37 in 1851 census (birthplace > > Talbenny) > > it would seem likely that his parents were William > > Hart of Freystrop who > > married Mary Moy at Talbenny on 17th. July, > > 1813...so probably an end of > > 1813 baptism or 1814 ..even from July, 1813 if some > > of my ancestral line are > > anything to go by (I CAN count..but we are talking > > about Pembrokeshire!). > > > > A William Hart married Frances Philipps at Freystrop > > in 1780 (which might be > > a generation back for your line) and a John Hart > > married Elizabeth Morris at > > Haverfordwest St. Martin in 1792...so you can take > > your pick. There were > > other Hart marriages at Camrose and Steynton, but > > you seem to think that in > > your line the family names were repeated ad > > infinitum. > > > > If Mary Moy proves to be part of your ancestry, then > > a Benjamin Moy married > > Catherine Mackan at Hubberston in 1813 > > (05/06/1813)......he might be a > > brother or cousin to Mary and marrying in his > > bride's parish ...and perhaps > > if you investigated this marriage you might get > > similar witness names. A > > Francis Moy in 1782 married Mary Howell at St. > > Ishmaels....and this appears > > to be the only marriage which fits timewise. > > > > I have a slight interest in the Twigg name and that > > of Maccan (which might > > be Mackan) so would be interested to hear if you > > have anything further. > > > > Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "nick hart" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 8:40 AM > > Subject: [WLS-PEM] Harts in Pembroke > > > > > > > I am currently trying to trace a John Hart who > > married > > > a Margaret Twigg in 1833 in Hayscastle. The > > marriage > > > entry is very uninformative about the Groom other > > than > > > he was a labourer > > > However the 1851 census entry gives his age as 37 > > and > > > place of birth as Talbenny. > > > > > > Armed with this information I have searched the > > Dyfed > > > index for the Rhos hundred, but this does not > > record a > > > John Hart being christened at the relevant time > > > C1813. > > > > > > I know that my forbears were very uninventive in > > their > > > choice of names but if anyone has stumbled across > > a > > > John Hart C1813 I would be grateful for any > > > information that might suggest a course of > > > investigation. > > > > > > Nick Hart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > > > your friends today! 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