Dear Pat and Libby, At least my popping in my two-pennyworth has brought forth the lawyer/sawyer discussion and may lead to clarification. Thanks, Pat. As to the name Elizabeth, at least you are Libby and I am Bettye with an "e" which my mother assured me was to identify the fact that I was NOT an Elizabeth. My mother's second name was Letitia and someone once told me that the Welsh version, Lettice, could also be an alternative for Elizabeth. As the List is quiet, has anyone any thoughts on this? It would be rather ironic if my mother, unknowingly, carried a version of Elizabeth herself. Bettye Kirkwood