Hello Kevin I wondered about that family because of the presence of Humphrey in 1851. Do you have the marriage certificate for Harriet and John Thomas? Does it give her name as Phillips formerly James? Does it give her father as David James ? In which case Priscilla James in the 1841 would be her mother (see the marriage given by Bettye) Cheers Pat In message <[email protected]>, kce <[email protected]> writes >Hi all, >If it is this Isaac Phillips then I would be interested to hear more - there >is a link to my Belt family research with this family - through Harriet who >later marries a John Thomas and the Belt and Philips surnames appear as >grandchildren to Harriet in a later census(1851) >Any info appreciated. >Regards >Kevin > -- Pat Powell