A lady called 'Mary' kindly posted an extract from the above book to the list last October, and I put it on the Pem 'Not everyone knows this page'. Sue Mackay, the Gla FHs membership secretary[ sue.mackay@virgin.net ] found the entry via her search engine and would like to contact her about this I have recently cleared out my old list mails so perhaps Mary would 'identify herself' :-) Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html