Gerry, I still think of Britain as including Scotland, Wales, Ireland (the whole place), and England. Interesting that a Welshman would need a British passport to live in England - that's beyond my comprehension. I go into Canada and Mexico with nothing but my resident state's drivers license. This EU is also interesting - ran a search on the web and the EU seems to have begun from persons involved with the coal and steel industry. In the US jam is pulverized preserves, while jelly is strained through cheesecloth to produce a clear liquid. That's some of my Pennsylvania Dutch and German heritage showing up there! We still use rods, poles, and perches - especially in genealogy. Saw a photo in my local paper yesterday of a fellow measuring his footsteps for tree-planting placement. Quite practical if not exact! Thanks for your interest, Gerry Elida in South Carolina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry" <gerry@asterisk.co.uk> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 7:13 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Non-genealogy - Definition? > on 10/4/01 7:04 pm, Elida at elida@signature.cc wrote: > > > Hi listers, > > I live in the USA. Now and then I read a little of the "London Times" > > on-line. Today there is an interesting article about a grocer who got in > > trouble for selling bananas by the pound. > > > > I tried a search for the EU (European Union) on google.com and am more > > confused about the EU - they have an office in my Washington, DC, USA. Would > > this be like an ambassador's office? > > > > I don't mean to offend anyone by my questions, but is the term "Great Britian" > > no longer to be used? If I can still refer to Great Britian, what is it now? > > > > What is the "United Kingdom". Is this the term which has replaced the use of > > "Great Britian"? > > > > I notice when my Public Broadcasting TV has a cooking show from England the > > recipes are not in metric system quantities. Are most cookbooks in England > > and Wales using metric system amounts? If not, why did the grocer do wrong by > > selling bananas by the pound? > > > > The average American citizen has firmly refused the use of metric system > > measurements - me included. > > > > Elida in South Carolina > > Hi Elida > > I don't know the answer to the EU question, except I think you're right > regarding it being like an ambassador's office. > > We Brits live in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, > and I'm not going to enter into any discussion about the latter place. > > We have been forced into using the metric system, but in the usual British > fashion it's a pig's ear - we can still buy "fresh" milk in pints, but > long-life milk is sold in litres. We can buy jam (US jelly) in pounds. > Nearly everything else is sold by metric weight. > > Draught beer in pubs is sold in pints. Bottled/canned beer in supermarkets > is sold in metric. > > Timber (lumber) is sold in metric lengths, but the cross sections are still > based on imperial - for example, 4 by 2 has become 100 (mm) by 50 (mm). > > I go into my local supermarket and ask for half a pound of cheddar cheese, > and they give me approximately 250 grammes in return. No problem. Most items > are priced per pound and per kilogramme. > > And of course, we still use miles when talking about distances. All road > signs show miles. My (German) car has a milometer/odometer that shows miles. > Is there anyone in the UK who says his/her car does so many litres of petrol > per 100 kilometres? I think not - we all say miles per gallon (UK gallon > that is, which is 1.20095 US gallons). > > I guess that when all us oldies who learned imperial at school have departed > there may be pressure for a total conversion to metric. > > Gerry Lewis - a Welshman with a British passport living in England - what am > I going to put on the census form in 2 weeks time? > > PS The allotment I rent from my local parish council for growing flowers and > vegetables is measured in (square) poles!! Also known as a (square) rod or > perch = 16.5 ft x 16.5 ft = 30.25 square yards = 25.2929 square metres. > > GL >

Elida <elida@signature.cc> wrote: Interesting that a Welshman would need a British passport to live in England - that's beyond my comprehension. I go into Canada and Mexico with nothing but my resident state's drivers license. ============= Hi Elida, I don't know where you got the idea that a Welsh person needs a passport to live in England. The idea is complete nonsense! :o) One only needs a passport if one travels outside the United Kingdom. Many people don't ever bother to apply for a passport, and never need one. They can move freely anywhere in the UK. Hopefully, it won't be too long before we can travel anywhere in the European Union without needing a passport. Kind regards, John ---------------------------------- John Ball, South Wales, UK E-mail: wfha@clara.co.uk Welsh Family History Archive: http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm --- This message is certified virus-free by AVG Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.248 / Virus Database: 121 - Release Date: 11/04/2001

> Gerry Lewis said (I'm) a Welshman with a British passport living in England . Elida, you understood:- Interesting that a Welshman would need a Britishpassport to live in England - that's beyond my comprehension. I go intoCanada and Mexico with nothing but my resident state's drivers license. Elida , he was just making a joke as well as stating a fact. I am Welsh and live in Canada. I did NOT need a British passport just to travel around in UK . It is just that ALL residents get the same passport to go outside UK to europe etc. I have had a Canadian passport but am returning to UK one as it is issued for 10years and my husband always uses his. Our children use their own now so we want to be together in line!In fact when I went to UK I would never have my passport stamped as I was always considered British. The EU is useful in Europe too now. In Canada we buy petrol(gas) in litres, milk in litres and everything is priced that way as the government insists. It is just that pound prices are given as well! It is also a better system as it is based on"10" not 12 , 3 feet or 1,760 yards etc.It is more consistent. Scientists world wide has used it for hundreds of years. We have legally had it in Canada for about 30 years now. Hope this explains the metric matter for you Jane (Davies) Buttery- near Detroit ( a French name) PS All early concession were laid out metrically round here by the French Our road 3 is exactly 1 km from road 4. Narrow river lots are based on it too!!