Hi Bill, Bettye, I received three of the four certificates I applied for, the staff at Tower Hill Register Office are so helpful and so efficient I sent off for the certificates on the Thursday followed by a telephone call on the Friday and I received them Saturday. I am still going to keep an open mind the information I received still leaves me in the dark so to speak. I know now why they call it Family Tree, I am going to look at these branches and twigs again but at least I sent off for the certificates something I have wanted to do for a long time. Birth Certificate for Sophia Morgan. 10 March 1845 Ambleston Fathers name William Morgan ( Slater ) Mothers name Anne Morgan / formally Madocks Marriage Certificate for Sophia Morgan. 12 February 1876 at Trefgam Chapel Brawdy. Thomas Howell 32 Marr Sophia Morgan 26 Sophia's Father's name is Thomas Morgan (in the presence of Thomas Morgan and Sarah Morgan ) for Thomas Howell there is no mention of Fathers name or profession. I was not able to get a Birth Certificate for Thomas Howell it is not held in Haverfordwest so I will have to apply to Pembroke Register Office ? I also sent off for my Grandfathers Birth Certificate James Morgan Howell it has him born and living at Treslanog Mathry R.S.D but on a copy of a Requisition form for a Birth Certificate it states he was born at a Dwelling called Meildy St Nicholas Fishguard ?. sorry to have gone on so, thank you both for your time and patience Marlena # Dyfed 3263 # Glamorgan 5881

Dear Marlena, >From the information you've supplied, I think the marriage certificate fits your needs best....so you are looking for the marriage of a Thomas Morgan to supply the names of Sophia's parents. The most likely from the information in previous e-mails is the Thomas Morgan aged 31 born and living in Hayscastle with his wife Mary, with their 3 years old daughter Sophia. I know Sophia's age is shown as 26 at the time of her marriage.....this could be a misinterpretation of the figures 6 and 8..or she could have lied. I don't place too much credence on ages in Pembrokeshire documents......they obviously could count sheep or cows, but years....No! Let's hope the 1871 census will prove fruitful for you. The Ambleston Sophia appears to be the child of William Morgan and Ann, the widow Morgan whose original name was Madocks. An Ann Maddock is shown in the marriage index as marrying William Morgan of St. Lawrence at Ambleston on 05/02/1833...so perhaps she married two William Morgans. The only likely parents of Ann in my records could have married at either Haroldston West or St. Issells, but there is no proof. The absence of a father's name for Thomas Howell may mean that he was born to a single woman........and perhaps the church parish records of the area in which he was born will show the name of the person who was called upon to provide support for such a child. If the father was known, the church wasn't going to be responsible for the upkeep of a child to their parish if they could help it! Bettye Kirkwood. ----- Original Message ----- From: marlena payne To: [email protected] Cc: BJ & LC Kirkwood ; [email protected] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 10:05 PM Subject: Sophia Morgan/s Hi Bill, Bettye, I received three of the four certificates I applied for, the staff at Tower Hill Register Office are so helpful and so efficient I sent off for the certificates on the Thursday followed by a telephone call on the Friday and I received them Saturday. I am still going to keep an open mind the information I received still leaves me in the dark so to speak. I know now why theall it Family Tree, I am going to look at these branches and twigs again but at least I sent off for the certificates something I have wanted to do for a long time. Birth Certificate for Sophia Morgan. 10 March 1845 Ambleston Fathers name William Morgan ( Slater ) Mothers name Anne Morgan / formally Madocks Marriage Certificate for Sophia Morgan. 12 February 1876 at Trefgam Chapel Brawdy. Thomas Howell 32 Marr Sophia Morgan 26 Sophia's Father's name is Thomas Morgan (in the presence of Thomas Morgan and Sarah Morgan ) for Thomas Howell there is no mention of Fathers name or profession. I was not able to get a Birth Certificate for Thomas Howell it is not held in Haverfordwest so I will have to apply to Pembroke Register Office ? I also sent off for my Grandfathers Birth Certificate James Morgan Howell it has him born and living at Treslanog Mathry R.S.D but on a copy of a Requisition form for a Birth Certificate it states he was born at a Dwelling called Meildy St Nicholas Fishguard ?. sorry to have gone on so, thank you both for your time and patience Marlena # Dyfed 3263 # Glamorgan 5881