Hi Craig >On 19 December 1845, the CJ reported his death." Do you have any idea what CJ might stand for?< Do you have the details from Pembroke People by Richard Rose? CJ is The Carmarthen Journal. Swansea Reference Library hold copies of this as well as a partial index for it. There may be a fuller report in it and I suggest that you contact them as they are most helpful. [email protected] You are unlikely to find a coroner's report as it was permitted for these to be thrown away after a set period of time. There is Coroners' Book held by the Pembrokeshire Record Office which just lists inquests held, and where, cause and place of death but little else. This is an example from my own family Pembrokeshire CRO Ref. T/CR/1 Coroner's Book 7 January 1896 Henry White, Malster & Brewer, Pembroke Dock, 67 years, Inquest held at Hean Castle Hotel, Saundersfoot on 10 January 1896, Cost £1. 15s., Committed suicide during a fit of temporary insanity. Inquest held by H.E.J. Price, Deputy Coroner From my experience I found that the newspaper reports contained more information but for the time of John Allen's death few papers were published in Wales. Do have a look at the British Library Newspaper Library catalogue. http://www.bl.uk/collections/newspaper/newscat.html However early Welsh newspapers contained mostly national and international news extracted from London newspapers. If an enquiry was held by the Admiralty there could be a report in Admiralty papers at the National Archives - Kew. However life was cheap in those days and a local inquest was probably considered 'adequate'. Incidentally Mrs. Peters in her book 'The History of Pembroke Dock' published 1905 mentions on Page 159 Mr. J. Obray, of Gwyther Street (eighty-eight) as being one of the oldest men who was a native of the town. His name also appears in the Acknowledgments to those who have provided valuable suggestions and help to the author. In the 1861 Census there is a John Obray aged 10 living with his grandparents, Joshua and Mary Harris, in Front Street, Pembroke Dock Bye for now Joy

Joy <[email protected]> wrote: CJ is The Carmarthen Journal. Swansea Reference Library hold copies of this as well as a partial index for it. There may be a fuller report in it and I suggest that you contact them as they are most helpful. [email protected] ================ Dear Joy, Are you certain that Swansea Library holds a partial index to the Carmarthen Journal? I wonder if you are confusing the Carmarthen Journal with "The Cambrian" newspaper, first published in 1804. Swansea Library certainly has a fine collection of The Cambrian, and has an on-going project to index its contents. I quote from the Swansea Library website at http://www.swansea.gov.uk/culture/libraries/libraryintro.htm "The Cambrian is in the process of being computer indexed. To date indexing has covered 1804-1870. There is a small charge for accessing this service." I have used the Cambrian Index myself, but it would be tremendous news if the library also has an indexed collection of the Carmarthen Journal. Kind regards, John ---------------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, Swansea, South Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release Date: 30/12/2003