Hello Alwyn Taking you up on your offer for lookups in the 1871 Census: I would be very interested to know which of my Brigstocke ggGrandparents' children and siblings were still around in 1871. The list below shows what I currently know about them. 1. my gg Grandparents Rev Thomas BRIGSTOCKE, b.1794 Jeffreston, Pemb d.1874 Haverfordwest, Pemb, Wales (FreeBMD) Caroline Buchanan WHISH, b. 1799 Northwold, Norfolk d.??1859 ??Walwyn's Castle, Pemb 2. Children of Thomas and Caroline. All were born at Walwyn's Castle, Pemb (All but Martin are seen in 1841 and/or 1851 Censuses -- Thanks to Sandra Davies and Pat Powell. Only Caroline junior & Harriet are seen in 1881. Richard, Frederick, and presumably Claudius, were overseas in 1881.) ?? Martin Whish Brigstocke b.~1826 d. 1899 Barton Regis (Bristol) Gloucs (not seen before FreeBMD record of death) Emily Sandys BRIGSTOCKE, 1827- ?m. George Patrick Lambert Emma Elizabeth BRIGSTOCKE, 1828- Caroline Whish BRIGSTOCKE, 1830 d. after 1881 ?London Rev. Claudius Buchanan BRIGSTOCKE b. 1831. d. 1899 St Saviour, Southwark, Surrey Newton Thomas BRIGSTOCKE, 1832-1832 Newton Thomas BRIGSTOCKE, 1833- Harriet Mary BRIGSTOCKE, 1835- d. after 1881 London m. Henry Tivy Tomkins Augusta Buchanan BRIGSTOCKE, 1836- Richard Whish BRIGSTOCKE, b. 1838 d. 1919, Lewisham, London m. Elizabeth Tomkins Rev. Decimus BRIGSTOCKE, 1839-1868 Rev Frederick Hervey John BRIGSTOCKE, 1841- St Johns, New Brunswick, Canada Siblings (and presumed siblings) of my ggGrandaprents who lived in Pembrokeshire (Caroline's sister) Charlotte Jane WHISH, b.1796 Northwold, Norfolk. d.1883 London (?Rev Thomas's Brother?) Rev Silvanus BRIGSTOCKE (?Rev Thomas's Brother?) Lt Charles BRIGSTOCKE RN I expect Rev Thomas and Rev Silvanus will be present. Are any of the other's around? and are there other family members in the households? Many thanks Patrick

It's Ann from Aber replying--hope you don't mind Alwyn but had the census up so looked for them! Steyton Milford Haven Hamilton Terrace Thomas Brigstocke 77 Vicar of St Katherine's Milford Haven and Rural Dean b Jefferston ------------ " wife absent form home Caroline Wish " unmarried clergyman's daughter b Walwyn's Court Best wishes Ann D in Aber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick W G Brock" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Census 1871 > Hello Alwyn > > Taking you up on your offer for lookups in the 1871 Census: I would be very > interested to know which of my Brigstocke ggGrandparents' children and > siblings were still around in 1871. The list below shows what I currently > know about them. > > > 1. my gg Grandparents > Rev Thomas BRIGSTOCKE, b.1794 Jeffreston, Pemb d.1874 Haverfordwest, Pemb, > Wales (FreeBMD) > Caroline Buchanan WHISH, b. 1799 Northwold, Norfolk d.??1859 ??Walwyn's > Castle, Pemb > > 2. Children of Thomas and Caroline. All were born at Walwyn's Castle, > Pemb > (All but Martin are seen in 1841 and/or 1851 Censuses -- Thanks to Sandra > Davies and Pat Powell. > Only Caroline junior & Harriet are seen in 1881. Richard, Frederick, and > presumably Claudius, were overseas in 1881.) > > ?? Martin Whish Brigstocke b.~1826 d. 1899 Barton Regis (Bristol) Gloucs > (not seen before FreeBMD record of death) > Emily Sandys BRIGSTOCKE, 1827- ?m. George Patrick Lambert > Emma Elizabeth BRIGSTOCKE, 1828- > Caroline Whish BRIGSTOCKE, 1830 d. after 1881 ?London > Rev. Claudius Buchanan BRIGSTOCKE b. 1831. d. 1899 St Saviour, Southwark, > Surrey > Newton Thomas BRIGSTOCKE, 1832-1832 > Newton Thomas BRIGSTOCKE, 1833- > Harriet Mary BRIGSTOCKE, 1835- d. after 1881 London m. Henry Tivy > Tomkins > Augusta Buchanan BRIGSTOCKE, 1836- > Richard Whish BRIGSTOCKE, b. 1838 d. 1919, Lewisham, London m. > Elizabeth Tomkins > Rev. Decimus BRIGSTOCKE, 1839-1868 > Rev Frederick Hervey John BRIGSTOCKE, 1841- St Johns, New Brunswick, Canada > > Siblings (and presumed siblings) of my ggGrandaprents who lived in > Pembrokeshire > (Caroline's sister) Charlotte Jane WHISH, b.1796 Northwold, Norfolk. > d.1883 London > (?Rev Thomas's Brother?) Rev Silvanus BRIGSTOCKE > (?Rev Thomas's Brother?) Lt Charles BRIGSTOCKE RN > > I expect Rev Thomas and Rev Silvanus will be present. Are any of the other's > around? and are there other family members in the households? > > Many thanks > > Patrick > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Welsh Family History Archive http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm

Dear Patrick, I don't know if how far back in time you have gone with your Brigstocke ancestry. Have you read Llechdwinni Revisited by Major Francis Jones which appeared in the Carmarthenshire Antiquary Vol. XX in 1984? The Brigstocke section begins "The background of the Brigstockes differed radically from that of the family they succeeded at Llechdwnni. Rural Welsh landowners of distinguished ancestry and family traditions, the Bowens had been stay-at-home squires......By contrast the Brigstockes were English townsfolk, business-men living in Croydon near the great metropolis, centre of government whose edicts influenced the pattern of national life. If they lacked genealogical panache, they made up with a capacity for hard work, application and persistence. A man from this urban mileau now enters the pastoral scene of Carmarthenshire. Baptized at Croydon on 7 October 1604, John Brigstocke was son of a successful brewer of that town, Robert Brigstocke and his wife Elizabeth". Then follows 9 or 10 pages about the family....down to including Rev. John Brigstocke who was rector of Burton in Pembrokeshire from 1832 to 1858, and his family. There are no Brigstocke marriages in my pre-1813 index which includes Burton, but there are two in the Narberth Hundred including the marriage of Thomas Brigstocke to Elizabeth Phelps at Jeffreston in 1791. You may already know whether or not these are your Rev. Thomas Brigstocke's parents, but it seems likely. Of course, there may be more than one Brigstocke family who went into Wales....and you may know all about your earlier family members already.....but, just in case.......... Incidentally, from the Lists, Megan Phelps and I are both interested in the Phelps name. Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick W G Brock" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 4:09 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Census 1871 > Hello Alwyn > > Taking you up on your offer for lookups in the 1871 Census: I would be very > interested to know which of my Brigstocke ggGrandparents' children and > siblings were still around in 1871. The list below shows what I currently > know about them.