Thanks to Ann D in Aber, we now have our Smith family in 1871 identfied in Timberland, West Haroldstone. The thomas Smith family is that of of his second wife. The first wife, the mother of our Elizabeth Smith and her brother Edwin is said to have been the the owner of Timberland and could have been a Venable ? - We would be very gratefull if someone could check out the 1851,1841 and 1831 Census to see if the Smith/Venable family show up on the Timberland,West Haroldstone farm. Herb and Mary Schwarz,Ontario,Canada