Hi Bill, Bettye, I am well pleased with the progress I have made many thanks to you both. I have filed all the information that you both have given me with the rest of my files they are and will be very useful. I think there is a good chance that Sophia from Haycastle is me girlie and Thomas Morgan's occupation stated on the wedding certificate as agricultural labourer ties in nicely. I think my Thomas Howell is a bit of a ?. A gentleman was kind enough to do a look up for me in 2002 and could not find no suitable Thomas Howell on the 1851 census for the districts of Granston, Haycastle, St Davids or Fishguard Districts, and by 1891 Census there where no trace of this whole family at Treylls y Cnwc, or on the Databasefor the area. That ties in with the only conversation I had with my Grandfather about his family ( he told me his Mother died in childbirth and he was looked after by ???? very vague ) I thought that he might have been illegitimate, not that I would have cared, and to have n! ow found out his Mothers name its the icing on the top. I will re-check the Death Registers to see if she died giving birth to my Grandfather ? in 1885 and before 1891. I also came up with the following on the 1901 Census I found these three little beauties. David Howells aged 24 Never Pembrokeshire Clingy ? Collier William Howells aged 23 St Brides Pembrokeshire Marlow's Farm Servant James Howells aged 15 Brady Pembrokeshire Brady Cater/Farm I keep these on file, the names are the same, the ages would be correct for 1901 but the place names are out of context. I hope I have not bored you both and our Mailing List Friends, Many thanks Marlena.

on 3/2/04 12:24 pm, marlena payne at [email protected] wrote: > Hi Bill, Bettye, > I am well pleased with the progress I have made many thanks to you both. I > have filed all the information that you both have given me with the rest of my > files they are and will be very useful. I think there is a good chance that > Sophia from Haycastle is me girlie and Thomas Morgan's occupation stated on > the wedding certificate as agricultural labourer ties in nicely. I think my > Thomas Howell is a bit of a ?. A gentleman was kind enough to do a look up for > me in 2002 and could not find no suitable Thomas Howell on the 1851 census for > the districts of Granston, Haycastle, St Davids or Fishguard Districts, and by > 1891 Census there where no trace of this whole family at Treylls y Cnwc, or on > the Databasefor the area. That ties in with the only conversation I had with > my Grandfather about his family ( he told me his Mother died in childbirth and > he was looked after by ???? very vague ) I thought that he might have been > illegitimate, not that I would have cared, and to have n! > ow found out his Mothers name its the icing on the top. I will re-check the > Death Registers to see if she died giving birth to my Grandfather ? in 1885 > and before 1891. I also came up with the following on the 1901 Census I found > these three little beauties. > > David Howells aged 24 Never Pembrokeshire Clingy ? Collier > William Howells aged 23 St Brides Pembrokeshire Marlow's Farm > Servant > James Howells aged 15 Brady Pembrokeshire Brady Cater/Farm > > I keep these on file, the names are the same, the ages would be correct for > 1901 but the place names are out of context. I hope I have not bored you both > and our Mailing List Friends, Many thanks Marlena. Hello Marlena Here's James with his family in 1891: Scarbro, Brawdy William Howells, head, 30, Agricultural Labourer, born Llanrhian, spoke Welsh Lettice Howells, wife, 31, born Gwyndy [ Whitchurch parish], spoke Welsh Martha Howells, daughter, 8, scholar, born Brawdy - Scarborough, spoke Welsh James Howells, son, 5, scholar, born Brawdy - Scarborough, spoke Welsh Richard Howells, son, 7mo., born Brawdy - Scarborough William (14, born Marloes) appears to be working at the Cotts, Hasguard in 1891, but there is a William T. Howells, aged 12, born St Brides, living with his family at Old Winterton, Marloes. I have not yet transcribed Nevern. Is the first named place on your list the place of residence or birth place? Gerry Lewis