Hi Listers I know this a long shot but could some kind person (if they have a spare moment)try to find a John James born 24 7 1860,his fathers name was William James ,mothers name not known.I am afraid i donot know which part of Pembrokeshire they came from.In the family bible he wrote he came from Pembrokeshire but on the 1881 census he put his place of birth as Swansea,but then on the 1891 and the 1901 he put it down as Pembrokeshire so iam taking the first one as the correct one. best regards to all alvina alvinarichards@hotmail.co.uk _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger