on 9/1/05 10:26 am, Maytree4@aol.com at Maytree4@aol.com wrote: > Dear All, > > If anyone has access to the above census I would really appreciate a look up > for the following family from Marloes : > > John Thomas aged about 45 Ag. Lab > Rebecca wife aged about 40 > William son aged about 23 > Catherine dau. aged about 20 > John son aged about 14 > > Obviously, the elder children probably won't be living at home but it is the > husband and wife, John and Rebecca that I am particularly interested in, > especially the birth place of them. > > Any assistance gratefully appreciated. > > Kind regards, > Rose, > Surrey Hello Rose, Most of them were in St.Bride's parish: HO107/2477, St.Bride's, folio 233, page 3, schedule 7 Catherine Thomas, 1, b. Talbenny John Thomas, 45, b. Walwyn's Castle John Thomas, 14, b. Marloes Rebecca Thomas, 47, b. Marloes HO107/2477, St.Bride's, folio 233, page 2, schedule 3 Catherine Thomas, 19, b. Marloes This is possibly John & Rebecca's marriage: Marloes Dec 20 1828 - John Thomas, St.Ishmael, and Rebecca Roberts Gerry Lewis

Hi Listers.............I've just found the name LODWIG in my tree. My William Stephens b 1839 married Margaret Lodwig nov 7th 1861 at the Parish Church in Moylgrove. Her father was Benjamin Lodwig a Master Mariner born 1803 Moylgrove.I believe she had a brother Benjamin born 1842 and possibly a sister Leah , who married John Rees a Master Mariner. On the 1881 census Benjamin Senior is shown as living in St. Dogmaels Pem.- Benjamin Junior died in 1877. Is there anyone who may be connected ? Mo. Hughes Ruislip Middlesex

Dear All, If anyone has access to the above census I would really appreciate a look up for the following family from Marloes : John Thomas aged about 45 Ag. Lab Rebecca wife aged about 40 William son aged about 23 Catherine dau. aged about 20 John son aged about 14 Obviously, the elder children probably won't be living at home but it is the husband and wife, John and Rebecca that I am particularly interested in, especially the birth place of them. Any assistance gratefully appreciated. Kind regards, Rose, Surrey

Hello Bettye, Sorry Im a bit tardy in replying, I dont get much spare time. Thank you for all the information and pointers. I will follow them as and when I can. Most of my data I obtained when I visited Haverfordwest some years ago. Checking my old notebook, I found alittle more info.Mary Watkins was baptised 17th November 1749. Her parents were named as Henry Watkins and his wife Abbra. She married Richard Merchant 29th October 1749. I suspect that Henry W who died in 1782 is her father. I also noted a marriage 31st march 1744 between Richard Merchant and anne Child(widow) at Stackpole Elidir , which is also known as Cheriton. As you say St Petrox is quite close to Manorbier, indeed all of the places in your first Email are covered by an area 25 Kilometres square. I also have a marriage on 21st May 1769 at Steynton, Between a George Merchant and Sarah Patrick. I cant connect either of these "strays" to my tribe- yet! Regards William

Hello Rose This looks the family in the 1841 census:- parish of Marloes enum dist 13 Folio 18 page 7 John Thomas 35 Ag Lab Y Rebecca " 30 Y William " 13 Y Catherine " 10 Y John " 4 Y Hope this helps Cheers Pat In message <79.3c615e2f.2f116fc4@aol.com>, Maytree4@aol.com writes >Dear All, > >I have found a new line of research and was wondering whether anyone out >there is researching the surname THOMAS of Marloes? I am particularly >interested >in a JOHN THOMAS with a wife named REBECCA (surname unknown). They had a >daughter named Catherine who was baptised in Marloes in Oct. 1831. From the >Pembs Marriage Index I have concluded that they might be the John Thomas and >Rebecca Roberts who were married in St. Ishmael's in 1828. > >Regards, > >Rose >Epsom > -- Pat Powell

Dear Mark, Treleddyn, St. David's, is/was a double pile 17th. century house with a smuggler's tunnel. In the 18th. century it was the site of a Royal liaison with the lessee Mrs. Jordan.... according to Major Francis Jones' Historic Pemb. Houses book. In 1799 a Thomas Williams, owner of the Sloop "Phoebe" of Solva receives a mention...and apparently the Williams family lived there for quite a while. Whether this had any connection to your Elizabeth Williams, I don't know...but from your message it seems her husband's Rowland parents were the ones who lived there. A Simon Pardo in 1761 married Elinor Perkin at St. David's....a possible for parents of David Pardo, and there are two 1730's marriages if you are interested. Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Breeze" <apiltree@apiltree.screaming.net> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 5:38 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] ROWLAND(S) of St. Davids > Hi > > Can't make any connections to Haverfordwest, but I am descended from an > extensive Rowland(s) family in St. Davids. > > My earliest known Rowlands ancestors are: - > > 1. David ROWLAND who married Mary JOHN 10/11/1781 at St. Davids Cathedral, > they lived at Treleddyd Fawr, St Davids (can anyone tell me where this is?). > > 2. Thomas ROWLAND (son of the above) bapt. 12/8/1787 at St Davids, m. > 5/8/1812 St. Davids, Elizabeth PARDO, bapt. 15/6/1788 (daughter of David > PARDO and Elizabeth WILLIAMS). > > 3. Children of Thomas ROWLAND and Elizabeth (all bapt St Davids to the best > of my knowledge):- > Sarah ROWLAND b. 1812 > David ROWLAND b. 1816, m.(1) Anne DAVIES (1841), (2) May DAVID (1862) > Mary ROWLAND b. 1817 > James ROWLAND b. 1819, m Mary REES (~1850?) > Thomas ROWLAND b. 1821, m. Margaret LEWIS (1846) > Hannah ROWLAND b. 1823 > Elizabeth ROWLAND b. 1827 > Maria ROWLAND b. 1829 > William ROWLAND b. 1831 > > All daughters apparently remaining spinsters (strange). I am descended from > James and Mary. > > All this and more ROWLANDS, PARDO and JOHN (Mary Ann ROWLANDS daughter of > Thomas above married Dan JOHN (~1885)) history was passed down to me as a > paper chart and I've been unable to find the author (anyone out there > recognise this?). > > Pleased to here from anyone with a connection / more information, > > Regards > > Mark Breeze > mark@apiltree.screaming.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joanne Thomas" <journeymouse@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:28 PM > Subject: [WLS-PEM] ROWLANDS of Pembroke and Haverfordwest [crossposting] > > > > Hi again, > > > > Third and final post of the day, I promise! > > > > The William THOMAS mentioned in the previous posts married Catherine > > ROWLANDS in Haverfordwest on 9th April 1837. On the register, William > > is from Lamphey and Catherine is of the parish (of St Thomas', > > Haverfordwest). However, Catherine was born, and presumably raised, in > > Pembroke (St Michael's). She was the daughter of George ROWLANDS, a > > shoemaker and publican in Pembroke. George was the son of another > > George ROWLANDS who married Mary WOGAN in 1763 at Pembroke St > > Michael's. > > > > So (finally) the questions: > > Is anyone researching the ROWLANDS families in Pembroke and > > Haverfordwest? > > Any suggestions as to what I should be looking at for Catherine's > > connection to Haverfordwest? > > > > Ta, > > Jo <-- going back to lurking after this one, honest! > > > > ===== > > Joanne Thomas > > journeymouse@yahoo.co.uk > > http://www.geocities.com/journeymouse/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Pembrokeshire Archives > > email claire.orr@pembrokeshire.gov.uk > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Pembrokeshire Archives > email claire.orr@pembrokeshire.gov.uk > >

Dear Karen, If Llandissilio is correct, and working from the information Gerry supplied, it is possible that William Evans' parents were Daniel Evans and Sarah Phillips who married in 1791 at Llandissilio....... purely on the hunch that the first son was named for William's father, though I note there was no little Sarah. There are other possibilities. If Esther Hall is perhaps Daniel's mother, following Pat's discovery, then it is possible that her parents were John Hall and Mary Thomas whose marriage was recorded in the Llandissilio Bishop's transcripts in 1803. There is a notation beside these names in the index, CRO CPR/9/5..which may refer to something at Carmarthen Records Office, though my index is a Pembrokeshire one. If you find that your Daniel matches the age of the one given by Gerry, for absolute proof it may be possible to obtain his birth certificate, or if he proves to be an 1837 birth, then, the certificate for one of his siblings. Likewise, Daniels' marriage certificate should show the name of his father and his father's occupation. Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry" <gerry@asterisk.co.uk> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] FW: Evans - Liansilo? > on 7/1/05 4:28 am, Tony & Karen Moore at tokari@xtra.co.nz wrote: > > > Hello List > > > > I have the following information for my GG grandfather but am at a loss of > > finding anything further back and am wondering if anyone else is researching > > this family. In a book that was written some years ago here in New Zealand > > it states that Daniel Evans was from Liansilo. As I am not up on Welsh > > names of towns and counties I am not sure whether this is the correct > > spelling or not. Daniel Evans from Liansilo (Llandisillio??), Pembrokeshire, > > Wales married Hannah John December 11, 1860 in Church of England, Begelly, > > Pembrokeshre, Wales. He and is wife came to New Zealand circa 1880's. Him > > and his wife are both burried in Dipton Southland New Zealand. Have photos > > of grave site as well as other family members buried there. These are also > > on http://www.interment.net/data/nz/southland/dipton/dip.htm > > > > If anyone can help it would be much appreciated. > > > > Regards > > Karen Moore > > Palmerston North > > New Zealand > > > Hello Karen > > An age for Daniel and his father's name (from the marriage certificate) > would be useful; however, the only Daniel Evans living in Llandisilio in > 1851 was 13 years old which would fit a marriage 9 years later: > > HO107/2475, Llandisilio (CMN), folio 233, page 3, schedule 14 > Ann Evans, 10, born Llandisilio CMN > Caleb Evans, 11, born Llandisilio CMN > Daniel Evans, 13, born Llandisilio CMN > Edward Evans, 6, born Llandisilio CMN > Martha Evans, 7, born Llandisilio CMN > Mary Evans, 37, born Llangolman PEM > Stephen Evans, 3, born Llandisilio CMN > William Evans, 43, born Llandisilio CMN > Were any of these names used by Daniel for his children? > > I do not have an index of the 1841 census covering Llandeilo East (the bit > in CMN) > > And could this be Hannah's family?: > HO107/2475, Begelly, folio 751, page 31, schedule 123 > Anne John, 17, born Begelly > Elizabeth John, 21, born Begelly > Hanah John, 11, born Begelly > Martha John, 55, born Begelly > Rachail John, 19, born Begelly > Thomas John, 56, born Begelly > Thomas John, 10, born Begelly > > In the 1841 index Hannah's age is given as 2, and Thomas's occupation is > coal miner. > > Gerry Lewis > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > National Library of Wales > http://www.llgc.org.uk/ >

Dear Bettye Thank you for the location information and the other information which sounds as if it could be quite significant (there are tales of mariners in family folklore). I wonder can anyone confirm whether Treleddyn, St. David's is still there? I understand (courtesy of another PARDO researcher) that the Simon PARDO (bapt 28/9/1741) you refer to was the twin brotherof my ancestor David PARDO who married Elizabeth WILLIAMS (8/11/1783) Regards Mark Breeze ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJ & LC Kirkwood" <bjkirkwood@bigpond.com> To: "Mark Breeze" <apiltree@apiltree.screaming.net>; <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] ROWLAND(S) of St. Davids > Dear Mark, > > Treleddyn, St. David's, is/was a double pile 17th. century house with a > smuggler's tunnel. In the 18th. century it was the site of a Royal liaison > with the lessee Mrs. Jordan.... according to Major Francis Jones' Historic > Pemb. Houses book. In 1799 a Thomas Williams, owner of the Sloop "Phoebe" > of Solva receives a mention...and apparently the Williams family lived there > for quite a while. Whether this had any connection to your Elizabeth > Williams, I don't know...but from your message it seems her husband's > Rowland parents were the ones who lived there. > > A Simon Pardo in 1761 married Elinor Perkin at St. David's....a possible for > parents of David Pardo, and there are two 1730's marriages if you are > interested. > > Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Breeze" <apiltree@apiltree.screaming.net> > To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 5:38 AM > Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] ROWLAND(S) of St. Davids > > > > Hi > > > > Can't make any connections to Haverfordwest, but I am descended from an > > extensive Rowland(s) family in St. Davids. > > > > My earliest known Rowlands ancestors are: - > > > > 1. David ROWLAND who married Mary JOHN 10/11/1781 at St. Davids > Cathedral, > > they lived at Treleddyd Fawr, St Davids (can anyone tell me where this > is?). > > > > 2. Thomas ROWLAND (son of the above) bapt. 12/8/1787 at St Davids, m. > > 5/8/1812 St. Davids, Elizabeth PARDO, bapt. 15/6/1788 (daughter of David > > PARDO and Elizabeth WILLIAMS). > > > > 3. Children of Thomas ROWLAND and Elizabeth (all bapt St Davids to the > best > > of my knowledge):- > > Sarah ROWLAND b. 1812 > > David ROWLAND b. 1816, m.(1) Anne DAVIES (1841), (2) May DAVID (1862) > > Mary ROWLAND b. 1817 > > James ROWLAND b. 1819, m Mary REES (~1850?) > > Thomas ROWLAND b. 1821, m. Margaret LEWIS (1846) > > Hannah ROWLAND b. 1823 > > Elizabeth ROWLAND b. 1827 > > Maria ROWLAND b. 1829 > > William ROWLAND b. 1831 > > > > All daughters apparently remaining spinsters (strange). I am descended > from > > James and Mary. > > > > All this and more ROWLANDS, PARDO and JOHN (Mary Ann ROWLANDS daughter of > > Thomas above married Dan JOHN (~1885)) history was passed down to me as a > > paper chart and I've been unable to find the author (anyone out there > > recognise this?). > > > > Pleased to here from anyone with a connection / more information, > > > > Regards > > > > Mark Breeze > > mark@apiltree.screaming.net > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joanne Thomas" <journeymouse@yahoo.co.uk> > > To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:28 PM > > Subject: [WLS-PEM] ROWLANDS of Pembroke and Haverfordwest [crossposting] > > > > > > > Hi again, > > > > > > Third and final post of the day, I promise! > > > > > > The William THOMAS mentioned in the previous posts married Catherine > > > ROWLANDS in Haverfordwest on 9th April 1837. On the register, William > > > is from Lamphey and Catherine is of the parish (of St Thomas', > > > Haverfordwest). However, Catherine was born, and presumably raised, in > > > Pembroke (St Michael's). She was the daughter of George ROWLANDS, a > > > shoemaker and publican in Pembroke. George was the son of another > > > George ROWLANDS who married Mary WOGAN in 1763 at Pembroke St > > > Michael's. > > > > > > So (finally) the questions: > > > Is anyone researching the ROWLANDS families in Pembroke and > > > Haverfordwest? > > > Any suggestions as to what I should be looking at for Catherine's > > > connection to Haverfordwest? > > > > > > Ta, > > > Jo <-- going back to lurking after this one, honest! > > > > > > ===== > > > Joanne Thomas > > > journeymouse@yahoo.co.uk > > > http://www.geocities.com/journeymouse/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > > > Pembrokeshire Archives > > > email claire.orr@pembrokeshire.gov.uk > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Pembrokeshire Archives > > email claire.orr@pembrokeshire.gov.uk > > > > > >

Dear All, I have found a new line of research and was wondering whether anyone out there is researching the surname THOMAS of Marloes? I am particularly interested in a JOHN THOMAS with a wife named REBECCA (surname unknown). They had a daughter named Catherine who was baptised in Marloes in Oct. 1831. From the Pembs Marriage Index I have concluded that they might be the John Thomas and Rebecca Roberts who were married in St. Ishmael's in 1828. Regards, Rose Epsom

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Could SKS look for any SANDS families in both censuses please. Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching : Cork - FITZGIBBON, LEAHY, TARRANT, OAKSHOTT, VAUGHAN Dublin - CULLODEN, HAYDEN Martha, HAYES, HIGGINSON, HUGHES Patrick & Henry, MOFFETT Cambridge - SHICKEL-any spelling Somerset & Dorset - GRUBB, READ/REID, WHITTLE Suffolk - ATKINS, BOWLER, BROWN Robert, DAVIE/EY, PARR, SKINNER, SLATELY Stafford - WINTERTON, Webb WILLIAMS Wales - BALLARD, HOOPER, HOWELL, SANDS, YORATH

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Hello Karen, Gerry & all I looked up the Evans family in 1841 that Gerry found in 1851. It looks as if William's first wife was Esther and by 1851 he was married to Mary. So it looks as if Daniel's mother was Esther. 1841 census Llandissilio: Maengwynne William Evan 30 Y Esther Evan 25 N Mary Evan 9 Y Morris Evan 7 Y Daniel Evan 5 Y Caleb Evan 2 Y Anne Evan 3 mth Y Note: On 19 June 1830 William Evan married Esther Hall in Llandissilio Cheers Pat In message <BE04A4D8.9F53%gerry@asterisk.co.uk>, Gerry <gerry@asterisk.co.uk> writes >on 7/1/05 4:28 am, Tony & Karen Moore at tokari@xtra.co.nz wrote: > >> Hello List >> >> I have the following information for my GG grandfather but am at a loss of >> finding anything further back and am wondering if anyone else is researching >> this family. In a book that was written some years ago here in New Zealand >> it states that Daniel Evans was from Liansilo. As I am not up on Welsh >> names of towns and counties I am not sure whether this is the correct >> spelling or not. Daniel Evans from Liansilo (Llandisillio??), Pembrokeshire, >> Wales married Hannah John December 11, 1860 in Church of England, Begelly, >> Pembrokeshre, Wales. He and is wife came to New Zealand circa 1880's. Him >> and his wife are both burried in Dipton Southland New Zealand. Have photos >> of grave site as well as other family members buried there. These are also >> on http://www.interment.net/data/nz/southland/dipton/dip.htm >> >> If anyone can help it would be much appreciated. >> >> Regards >> Karen Moore >> Palmerston North >> New Zealand > > >Hello Karen > >An age for Daniel and his father's name (from the marriage certificate) >would be useful; however, the only Daniel Evans living in Llandisilio in >1851 was 13 years old which would fit a marriage 9 years later: > >HO107/2475, Llandisilio (CMN), folio 233, page 3, schedule 14 >Ann Evans, 10, born Llandisilio CMN >Caleb Evans, 11, born Llandisilio CMN >Daniel Evans, 13, born Llandisilio CMN >Edward Evans, 6, born Llandisilio CMN >Martha Evans, 7, born Llandisilio CMN >Mary Evans, 37, born Llangolman PEM >Stephen Evans, 3, born Llandisilio CMN >William Evans, 43, born Llandisilio CMN >Were any of these names used by Daniel for his children? > >I do not have an index of the 1841 census covering Llandeilo East (the bit >in CMN) > >And could this be Hannah's family?: >HO107/2475, Begelly, folio 751, page 31, schedule 123 >Anne John, 17, born Begelly >Elizabeth John, 21, born Begelly >Hanah John, 11, born Begelly >Martha John, 55, born Begelly >Rachail John, 19, born Begelly >Thomas John, 56, born Begelly >Thomas John, 10, born Begelly > >In the 1841 index Hannah's age is given as 2, and Thomas's occupation is >coal miner. > >Gerry Lewis > -- Pat Powell

on 7/1/05 4:28 am, Tony & Karen Moore at tokari@xtra.co.nz wrote: > Hello List > > I have the following information for my GG grandfather but am at a loss of > finding anything further back and am wondering if anyone else is researching > this family. In a book that was written some years ago here in New Zealand > it states that Daniel Evans was from Liansilo. As I am not up on Welsh > names of towns and counties I am not sure whether this is the correct > spelling or not. Daniel Evans from Liansilo (Llandisillio??), Pembrokeshire, > Wales married Hannah John December 11, 1860 in Church of England, Begelly, > Pembrokeshre, Wales. He and is wife came to New Zealand circa 1880's. Him > and his wife are both burried in Dipton Southland New Zealand. Have photos > of grave site as well as other family members buried there. These are also > on http://www.interment.net/data/nz/southland/dipton/dip.htm > > If anyone can help it would be much appreciated. > > Regards > Karen Moore > Palmerston North > New Zealand Hello Karen An age for Daniel and his father's name (from the marriage certificate) would be useful; however, the only Daniel Evans living in Llandisilio in 1851 was 13 years old which would fit a marriage 9 years later: HO107/2475, Llandisilio (CMN), folio 233, page 3, schedule 14 Ann Evans, 10, born Llandisilio CMN Caleb Evans, 11, born Llandisilio CMN Daniel Evans, 13, born Llandisilio CMN Edward Evans, 6, born Llandisilio CMN Martha Evans, 7, born Llandisilio CMN Mary Evans, 37, born Llangolman PEM Stephen Evans, 3, born Llandisilio CMN William Evans, 43, born Llandisilio CMN Were any of these names used by Daniel for his children? I do not have an index of the 1841 census covering Llandeilo East (the bit in CMN) And could this be Hannah's family?: HO107/2475, Begelly, folio 751, page 31, schedule 123 Anne John, 17, born Begelly Elizabeth John, 21, born Begelly Hanah John, 11, born Begelly Martha John, 55, born Begelly Rachail John, 19, born Begelly Thomas John, 56, born Begelly Thomas John, 10, born Begelly In the 1841 index Hannah's age is given as 2, and Thomas's occupation is coal miner. Gerry Lewis

Hi Can't make any connections to Haverfordwest, but I am descended from an extensive Rowland(s) family in St. Davids. My earliest known Rowlands ancestors are: - 1. David ROWLAND who married Mary JOHN 10/11/1781 at St. Davids Cathedral, they lived at Treleddyd Fawr, St Davids (can anyone tell me where this is?). 2. Thomas ROWLAND (son of the above) bapt. 12/8/1787 at St Davids, m. 5/8/1812 St. Davids, Elizabeth PARDO, bapt. 15/6/1788 (daughter of David PARDO and Elizabeth WILLIAMS). 3. Children of Thomas ROWLAND and Elizabeth (all bapt St Davids to the best of my knowledge):- Sarah ROWLAND b. 1812 David ROWLAND b. 1816, m.(1) Anne DAVIES (1841), (2) May DAVID (1862) Mary ROWLAND b. 1817 James ROWLAND b. 1819, m Mary REES (~1850?) Thomas ROWLAND b. 1821, m. Margaret LEWIS (1846) Hannah ROWLAND b. 1823 Elizabeth ROWLAND b. 1827 Maria ROWLAND b. 1829 William ROWLAND b. 1831 All daughters apparently remaining spinsters (strange). I am descended from James and Mary. All this and more ROWLANDS, PARDO and JOHN (Mary Ann ROWLANDS daughter of Thomas above married Dan JOHN (~1885)) history was passed down to me as a paper chart and I've been unable to find the author (anyone out there recognise this?). Pleased to here from anyone with a connection / more information, Regards Mark Breeze mark@apiltree.screaming.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne Thomas" <journeymouse@yahoo.co.uk> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:28 PM Subject: [WLS-PEM] ROWLANDS of Pembroke and Haverfordwest [crossposting] > Hi again, > > Third and final post of the day, I promise! > > The William THOMAS mentioned in the previous posts married Catherine > ROWLANDS in Haverfordwest on 9th April 1837. On the register, William > is from Lamphey and Catherine is of the parish (of St Thomas', > Haverfordwest). However, Catherine was born, and presumably raised, in > Pembroke (St Michael's). She was the daughter of George ROWLANDS, a > shoemaker and publican in Pembroke. George was the son of another > George ROWLANDS who married Mary WOGAN in 1763 at Pembroke St > Michael's. > > So (finally) the questions: > Is anyone researching the ROWLANDS families in Pembroke and > Haverfordwest? > Any suggestions as to what I should be looking at for Catherine's > connection to Haverfordwest? > > Ta, > Jo <-- going back to lurking after this one, honest! > > ===== > Joanne Thomas > journeymouse@yahoo.co.uk > http://www.geocities.com/journeymouse/ > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Pembrokeshire Archives > email claire.orr@pembrokeshire.gov.uk >

Hello List I have the following information for my GG grandfather but am at a loss of finding anything further back and am wondering if anyone else is researching this family. In a book that was written some years ago here in New Zealand it states that Daniel Evans was from Liansilo. As I am not up on Welsh names of towns and counties I am not sure whether this is the correct spelling or not. Daniel Evans from Liansilo (Llandisillio??), Pembrokeshire, Wales married Hannah John December 11, 1860 in Church of England, Begelly, Pembrokeshre, Wales. He and is wife came to New Zealand circa 1880's. Him and his wife are both burried in Dipton Southland New Zealand. Have photos of grave site as well as other family members buried there. These are also on http://www.interment.net/data/nz/southland/dipton/dip.htm If anyone can help it would be much appreciated. Regards Karen Moore Palmerston North New Zealand -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 3/01/2005

Hi Karen Could be Llandissilio parish - one of those awkward ones which are spread over two counties, Genuki has the whole lot under CMN for simplicity. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/Llandissilio/ But I wonder if it could be Llandilo parish in Pem, depends where the original mis-spelling takes place I guess. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/Llandilo/index.html Neither are particularly near to Begelly being the other parish mentioned. Best way forward might be be to find him on the 1851 census at either place, I assume you know the father's name/occupation from the marriage cert. I had a quick look at the 1881 census but didn't see any likely Daniel/Hannah candidates based on what you have and having checked their ages on your site. Gareth Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony & Karen Moore" <tokari@xtra.co.nz> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:28 AM Subject: [WLS-PEM] FW: Evans - Liansilo? > Hello List > > I have the following information for my GG grandfather but am at a loss > of > finding anything further back and am wondering if anyone else is > researching > this family. In a book that was written some years ago here in New > Zealand > it states that Daniel Evans was from Liansilo. As I am not up on Welsh > names of towns and counties I am not sure whether this is the correct > spelling or not. Daniel Evans from Liansilo (Llandisillio??), > Pembrokeshire, > Wales married Hannah John December 11, 1860 in Church of England, > Begelly, > Pembrokeshre, Wales. He and is wife came to New Zealand circa 1880's. Him > and his wife are both burried in Dipton Southland New Zealand. Have > photos > of grave site as well as other family members buried there. These are > also > on http://www.interment.net/data/nz/southland/dipton/dip.htm > > If anyone can help it would be much appreciated. > > Regards > Karen Moore > Palmerston North > New Zealand > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 3/01/2005 > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Genuki PEM > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/ > > > >

More possible info for your GG grandmother - stop me if you know all this. Hannah John birth registered June 1838 Narberth 26 585. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Tony & Karen Moore [mailto:tokari@xtra.co.nz] Sent: January 6, 2005 11:29 PM To: WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WLS-PEM] FW: Evans - Liansilo? Hello List I have the following information for my GG grandfather but am at a loss of finding anything further back and am wondering if anyone else is researching this family. In a book that was written some years ago here in New Zealand it states that Daniel Evans was from Liansilo. As I am not up on Welsh names of towns and counties I am not sure whether this is the correct spelling or not. Daniel Evans from Liansilo (Llandisillio??), Pembrokeshire, Wales married Hannah John December 11, 1860 in Church of England, Begelly, Pembrokeshre, Wales. He and is wife came to New Zealand circa 1880's. Him and his wife are both burried in Dipton Southland New Zealand. Have photos of grave site as well as other family members buried there. These are also on http://www.interment.net/data/nz/southland/dipton/dip.htm If anyone can help it would be much appreciated. Regards Karen Moore Palmerston North New Zealand -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 3/01/2005 ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== Genuki PEM http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/

Hi List, I am not doing a lot of research in Pembrokeshire and just need some help in tracing some of the relatives that wandered south from Scotland. Joseph Crawshaw marr Margaret/Maggie Mackie at the family farm South Craig near Kilmarnock, Ayrshire 1875. Joseph was a newspaper reporter and they lived in various towns, in the 1901 census they were in Stroud.Had children Richard b Darwen, Robert H b Pendlebury, Maggie b Cheshire. A family story says the last place they lived was Milton Haven, is there anyone who wouldnt mind checking the electoral roll for me sometime after 1901 to see if they were in fact living there. Any help and suggestions in tracing this couple greatly appreciated, Margaret Pool, NZ

A very successful lecture on the the lodges and gatehouses of Carmarthenshire given to the Carmarthenshire Antiquarian Society has led to the author Dominic Conway expanding his area of interest to cover Pembrokeshire lodges as well.His researcher would be very grateful for any info/photos/reminiscences etc to help him with his research. Thanking you in anticipation for your help. Ronald John Saunders =====