Hello again, Yes, my records are close, except that the George (Baddam) you have as abt.1785, I chose to date about 1780 (died before 1841c), because he was married on May 7,1803, without any mention of parental consent, to Elizabeth Morgan. I have a copy of his marriage in Begelly [PRO ref MF276]. Tho.S.I.Thomas,Rector; in the presence of John Jones and Susan Parsell. George's 2nd son was WILLIAM, b.1811 d.1868, married Esther Davies: my GGGparents. George's 5th son was Thomas, b.1819, married Mary Childs, Oct 22, 1848. John Baddam, I presume to be George's brother, because they had a double wedding on May 7th, 1803. John married Ann Sanders. His 1st son was also a William b. Jan 1804. The Thomas who married Elizabeth Nash, was JOHN's 2nd known son..b.Nov 1809. John's other children were: George b.Feb 1811, m.Mary Ann Davies Dec 1839, head of Manorbier Badhams, my 5th cousin's gggparents. Sarah b. aug 1817 m. Thomas Davies Dec 19, 1835 I hope that helps, Rachel Allan Richards <allanandmadge@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi again, Getting a bit muddled here trying to fill in the gaps. George Badham abt.1785 - was my husband Allan's 3 x Gt . Grandfather and he is descended from George's son Thomas. You and Allan have a common ancestor in George abt. 1785 and you are descended from William son of George and brother of Thomas. I have found a marriage for William to Esther Davies in 1834 at Begelly, please will you confirm that this is correct. By the way there are still many Badhams in this area. Regards Frances

Dear Listers, The subjects of this week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales' features, uploaded onto my website earlier today, are: 1. The small coastal town of Broad Haven on St Bride's Bay in the county of Pembrokeshire. This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in March 2001 (twelve pictures). 2. An exploration of Old Tenby in the county of Pembrokeshire. This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in May 1998 (seven pictures). To view my Retrospective webpages, go to http://home.clara.net/wfha/walespic/retro/retro.htm Enjoy!! John ---------------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, South Wales, UK E-mail: wfha@clara.co.uk Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/ Images of Wales: http://home.clara.net/wfha/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 19/01/2005

Hi Martin Count yourself lucky, there are umpteen parishes where no one ever lived - apparently ! :-) I hope this doesn't prompt a flood of new entries this weekend, I've got a load of MER census transcriptions to get online ! And there's cricket/rugby on the box ............ Gareth Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen and Martin Owen" <owen@our-house.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] PEM families - Fishguard > Hello list > > Can I fly a flag for Fishguard? > > The contributions to the families project look great, but am I the only > one with a family in Fishguard??!!?? > > ;-) > > Martin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gareth" <tirbach@clara.co.uk> > To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:26 PM > Subject: Fw: [WLS-PEM] PEM families - Fishguard > > >> Third and last try at getting a batch of list mails through, the first >> lot have disappeared whilst later ones have got through. >> Gareth >> Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists >> Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ >> Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html >> Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html >> Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html >> >> . >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gareth" <gareth@tytwp.plus.com> >> To: "PEM" <WLS-Pembrokeshire-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:27 PM >> Subject: Fw: [WLS-PEM] PEM families - Fishguard >> >> >>> Yesterday's version seems to have got lost with my isp problems - now >>> resolved. >>> Gareth >>> Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists >>> Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ >>> Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html >>> Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html >>> Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html >>> >>> . >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Gareth" <gareth@tytwp.plus.com> >>> To: "Helen and Martin Owen" <owen@our-house.fsbusiness.co.uk>; "PEM" >>> <WLS-Pembrokeshire-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 6:52 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] PEM families - Fishguard >>> >>> >>>> Thanks Martin >>>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/Fishguard/Families.html >>>> >>>> Perhaps you would let me have the name of your ancestor to go in Field >>>> 6 ? >>>> >>>> Gareth >>>> Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists >>>> Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ >>>> Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html >>>> Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html >>>> Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html >>>> >>>> . >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Helen and Martin Owen" <owen@our-house.fsbusiness.co.uk> >>>> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 10:51 PM >>>> Subject: [WLS-PEM] PEM families - Fishguard >>>> >>>> >>>>> FISHGUARD; *1;OWEN William James (Fishguard 1892-1924);*2;MITCHELL >>>>> Rachel >>>>> (Llanfihangel-Ar-Arth 1888-1965);*3;Coal miner;*4;Fishguard (1901) / >>>>> Penrhiwceiber, Glamorgan (1919) / Maes-y-Arian Cemetery, Mountain Ash >>>>> (1924);*5;Eirwen D 1920 (Penrhiwceiber, Glamorgan) / David Myrddin >>>>> 1921 >>>>> (Penrhiwceiber, Glamorgan);*6;Fishguard PEM;*7;David Martin Owen >>>>> (David >>>>> Myrddin) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> FISHGUARD; *1;OWEN David (Fishguard 1862-1943);*2;THOMAS Lettice >>>>> (Clegyrnfach, Jordanston 1864-1914);*3;Mariner;*4; Guttus, Fishguard >>>>> (1871) / >>>>> Trecini, Fishguard (1881) / Trecini, Fishguard (1887) / Fishguard >>>>> (1891) / >>>>> Fishguard (1893) / Fishguard (1894) / Fishguard (1895) / Fishguard >>>>> (1896) >>>>> / Fishguard (1901);*5;Hannah M 1889 (Fishguard) / Martha I 1890 >>>>> (Fishguard) / Lititia E 1891 (Fishguard) / William James 1892 >>>>> (Fishguard) >>>>> / John Thomas 1894 (Fishguard) / David B 1897 (Fishguard) / Hugh E >>>>> 1899 >>>>> (Fishguard) / Mabel G 1900 (Fishguard) / Hiline V 1901 (Fishguard) / >>>>> Edith >>>>> Mildred 1907 (Fishguard);*6;Fishguard; *7;David Martin Owen (William >>>>> James) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>>> Welsh Family History Archive >>>>> http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Welsh Family History Archive http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm >> >> > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ > > > >

Hello list Can I fly a flag for Fishguard? The contributions to the families project look great, but am I the only one with a family in Fishguard??!!?? ;-) Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gareth" <tirbach@clara.co.uk> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:26 PM Subject: Fw: [WLS-PEM] PEM families - Fishguard > Third and last try at getting a batch of list mails through, the first lot > have disappeared whilst later ones have got through. > Gareth > Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists > Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ > Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html > Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html > > . > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gareth" <gareth@tytwp.plus.com> > To: "PEM" <WLS-Pembrokeshire-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:27 PM > Subject: Fw: [WLS-PEM] PEM families - Fishguard > > >> Yesterday's version seems to have got lost with my isp problems - now >> resolved. >> Gareth >> Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists >> Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ >> Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html >> Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html >> Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html >> >> . >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gareth" <gareth@tytwp.plus.com> >> To: "Helen and Martin Owen" <owen@our-house.fsbusiness.co.uk>; "PEM" >> <WLS-Pembrokeshire-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 6:52 PM >> Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] PEM families - Fishguard >> >> >>> Thanks Martin >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/Fishguard/Families.html >>> >>> Perhaps you would let me have the name of your ancestor to go in Field 6 >>> ? >>> >>> Gareth >>> Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists >>> Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ >>> Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html >>> Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html >>> Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html >>> >>> . >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Helen and Martin Owen" <owen@our-house.fsbusiness.co.uk> >>> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 10:51 PM >>> Subject: [WLS-PEM] PEM families - Fishguard >>> >>> >>>> FISHGUARD; *1;OWEN William James (Fishguard 1892-1924);*2;MITCHELL >>>> Rachel >>>> (Llanfihangel-Ar-Arth 1888-1965);*3;Coal miner;*4;Fishguard (1901) / >>>> Penrhiwceiber, Glamorgan (1919) / Maes-y-Arian Cemetery, Mountain Ash >>>> (1924);*5;Eirwen D 1920 (Penrhiwceiber, Glamorgan) / David Myrddin 1921 >>>> (Penrhiwceiber, Glamorgan);*6;Fishguard PEM;*7;David Martin Owen (David >>>> Myrddin) >>>> >>>> >>>> FISHGUARD; *1;OWEN David (Fishguard 1862-1943);*2;THOMAS Lettice >>>> (Clegyrnfach, Jordanston 1864-1914);*3;Mariner;*4; Guttus, Fishguard >>>> (1871) / >>>> Trecini, Fishguard (1881) / Trecini, Fishguard (1887) / Fishguard >>>> (1891) / >>>> Fishguard (1893) / Fishguard (1894) / Fishguard (1895) / Fishguard >>>> (1896) >>>> / Fishguard (1901);*5;Hannah M 1889 (Fishguard) / Martha I 1890 >>>> (Fishguard) / Lititia E 1891 (Fishguard) / William James 1892 >>>> (Fishguard) >>>> / John Thomas 1894 (Fishguard) / David B 1897 (Fishguard) / Hugh E 1899 >>>> (Fishguard) / Mabel G 1900 (Fishguard) / Hiline V 1901 (Fishguard) / >>>> Edith >>>> Mildred 1907 (Fishguard);*6;Fishguard; *7;David Martin Owen (William >>>> James) >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>> Welsh Family History Archive >>>> http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Welsh Family History Archive > http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm > >

Mind boggling Dai ! But I think Sandra's contribution might be difficult to beat :-) Gareth Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dai Bevan" <daibevan@clara.co.uk> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Pembrokeshire Families - Llanstadwell > Gareth, > > > I know, now someone's bound to beat that :-) > > How about 16 by one wife ? In Notts, not Wales. > > Dai > > Gareth wrote: > >> Thanks Frances >> That last one must have taken some putting together ! >> >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/Llanstadwell/Families.html >> >> I still find it extraordinary how large some turn of the century (1900 >> ish) families were, I've long known about one in my direct line of 12 >> children by 2 wives but only yesterday came across another of 15 >> children by 2 wives ! >> I know, now someone's bound to beat that :-) >> >> Gareth >> Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists >> Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ >> Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html >> Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html >> Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html >> >> . >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Richards" >> <allanandmadge@btinternet.com> >> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:09 PM >> Subject: [WLS-PEM] Pembrokeshire Families - Llanstadwell >> >> >>> Hi Gareth, >>> >>> Another family, in the later generation there are two wives. I have >>> shown both the wives and their children under [1] & [2] as suggested - >>> >>> LLANSTADWELL - *1; JOHN David (Llanstadwell PEM 1846 - ?); *2; LEWIS >>> Martha (Steynton PEM 1825 - ?); *3; ?; *4; Llanstadwell (1846); *5; >>> JOHN Samuel Lewis 1866 (Waterstone); *6; Maesteg GLA (Samuel Lewis >>> JOHN); *7; Allan Richards (Samuel Lewis JOHN) >>> >>> LLANSTADWELL - *1; JOHN Samuel Lewis (Waterstone, Llanstadwell 1866 - >>> 1938); *2; [1] JAMES Elizabeth Ann (Bletherston PEM 1865 - 1895), [2] >>> DAVIES Sarah Jane (Aberdare GLA 1875 - ?); *3; Boat Builder/Pit >>> Sinker; *4; Hayston Farm, Llanstadwell (1881) / Swansea (1884) / >>> Maesteg (1901); *5; [1] Thomas James 1885 (Llanstadwell) / Phoebe Ann >>> 1887 (Roose PEM) / Watkin William 1893 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Mary >>> Ellen 1891 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / David Edgar 1895 (Caerau, Maesteg >>> GLA) / [2] David R. 1900 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Samuel R. 1901 >>> (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Winifred S. 1906 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / David >>> Lewis 1908 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Edith M. 1909 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) >>> / Beatrice M 1911 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Gwlym H. 1912 (Caerau, >>> Maesteg GLA) / Daisy E. 1913 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Daisy R. 1915 >>> (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / William E. 1917 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Lydia >>> C. 1919; *6; Maesteg GLA Mary Ellen John/Hills); *7; Allan Richards >>> Mary Ellen John/Hills). >>> >>> Frances >>> >>> >>> ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> National Library of Wales >>> http://www.llgc.org.uk/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Rootsweb list archives[threaded] >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/WLSPembrokeshire-L/ >> >> >> >> > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Genuki PEM > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/ > > > >

One of my husband's relatives was said to have had 21 children by two wives and had 50 grandchildren at the time of his death at the age of 102. Sandra Dai Bevan <daibevan@clara.co.uk> wrote: Gareth, > > I know, now someone's bound to beat that :-) How about 16 by one wife ? In Notts, not Wales. Dai

Gareth, > > I know, now someone's bound to beat that :-) How about 16 by one wife ? In Notts, not Wales. Dai Gareth wrote: > Thanks Frances > That last one must have taken some putting together ! > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/Llanstadwell/Families.html > > I still find it extraordinary how large some turn of the century (1900 > ish) families were, I've long known about one in my direct line of 12 > children by 2 wives but only yesterday came across another of 15 > children by 2 wives ! > I know, now someone's bound to beat that :-) > > Gareth > Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists > Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ > Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html > Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html > > . > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Richards" > <allanandmadge@btinternet.com> > To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:09 PM > Subject: [WLS-PEM] Pembrokeshire Families - Llanstadwell > > >> Hi Gareth, >> >> Another family, in the later generation there are two wives. I have >> shown both the wives and their children under [1] & [2] as suggested - >> >> LLANSTADWELL - *1; JOHN David (Llanstadwell PEM 1846 - ?); *2; LEWIS >> Martha (Steynton PEM 1825 - ?); *3; ?; *4; Llanstadwell (1846); *5; >> JOHN Samuel Lewis 1866 (Waterstone); *6; Maesteg GLA (Samuel Lewis >> JOHN); *7; Allan Richards (Samuel Lewis JOHN) >> >> LLANSTADWELL - *1; JOHN Samuel Lewis (Waterstone, Llanstadwell 1866 - >> 1938); *2; [1] JAMES Elizabeth Ann (Bletherston PEM 1865 - 1895), [2] >> DAVIES Sarah Jane (Aberdare GLA 1875 - ?); *3; Boat Builder/Pit >> Sinker; *4; Hayston Farm, Llanstadwell (1881) / Swansea (1884) / >> Maesteg (1901); *5; [1] Thomas James 1885 (Llanstadwell) / Phoebe Ann >> 1887 (Roose PEM) / Watkin William 1893 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Mary >> Ellen 1891 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / David Edgar 1895 (Caerau, Maesteg >> GLA) / [2] David R. 1900 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Samuel R. 1901 >> (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Winifred S. 1906 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / David >> Lewis 1908 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Edith M. 1909 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) >> / Beatrice M 1911 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Gwlym H. 1912 (Caerau, >> Maesteg GLA) / Daisy E. 1913 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Daisy R. 1915 >> (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / William E. 1917 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Lydia >> C. 1919; *6; Maesteg GLA Mary Ellen John/Hills); *7; Allan Richards >> Mary Ellen John/Hills). >> >> Frances >> >> >> ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== >> National Library of Wales >> http://www.llgc.org.uk/ >> >> >> >> > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb list archives[threaded] > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/WLSPembrokeshire-L/ > > > >

Thanks Frances That last one must have taken some putting together ! http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/Llanstadwell/Families.html I still find it extraordinary how large some turn of the century (1900 ish) families were, I've long known about one in my direct line of 12 children by 2 wives but only yesterday came across another of 15 children by 2 wives ! I know, now someone's bound to beat that :-) Gareth Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Richards" <allanandmadge@btinternet.com> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:09 PM Subject: [WLS-PEM] Pembrokeshire Families - Llanstadwell > Hi Gareth, > > Another family, in the later generation there are two wives. I have shown > both the wives and their children under [1] & [2] as suggested - > > LLANSTADWELL - *1; JOHN David (Llanstadwell PEM 1846 - ?); *2; LEWIS > Martha (Steynton PEM 1825 - ?); *3; ?; *4; Llanstadwell (1846); *5; JOHN > Samuel Lewis 1866 (Waterstone); *6; Maesteg GLA (Samuel Lewis JOHN); *7; > Allan Richards (Samuel Lewis JOHN) > > LLANSTADWELL - *1; JOHN Samuel Lewis (Waterstone, Llanstadwell 1866 - > 1938); *2; [1] JAMES Elizabeth Ann (Bletherston PEM 1865 - 1895), [2] > DAVIES Sarah Jane (Aberdare GLA 1875 - ?); *3; Boat Builder/Pit Sinker; > *4; Hayston Farm, Llanstadwell (1881) / Swansea (1884) / Maesteg (1901); > *5; [1] Thomas James 1885 (Llanstadwell) / Phoebe Ann 1887 (Roose PEM) / > Watkin William 1893 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Mary Ellen 1891 (Caerau, > Maesteg GLA) / David Edgar 1895 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / [2] David R. 1900 > (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Samuel R. 1901 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Winifred S. > 1906 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / David Lewis 1908 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / > Edith M. 1909 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Beatrice M 1911 (Caerau, Maesteg > GLA) / Gwlym H. 1912 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Daisy E. 1913 (Caerau, > Maesteg GLA) / Daisy R. 1915 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / William E. 1917 > (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Lydia C. 1919; *6; Maesteg GLA Mary Ellen > John/Hills); *7; Allan Richards Mary Ellen John/Hills). > > Frances > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > National Library of Wales > http://www.llgc.org.uk/ > > > >

Hi Gareth, Another family, in the later generation there are two wives. I have shown both the wives and their children under [1] & [2] as suggested - LLANSTADWELL - *1; JOHN David (Llanstadwell PEM 1846 - ?); *2; LEWIS Martha (Steynton PEM 1825 - ?); *3; ?; *4; Llanstadwell (1846); *5; JOHN Samuel Lewis 1866 (Waterstone); *6; Maesteg GLA (Samuel Lewis JOHN); *7; Allan Richards (Samuel Lewis JOHN) LLANSTADWELL - *1; JOHN Samuel Lewis (Waterstone, Llanstadwell 1866 - 1938); *2; [1] JAMES Elizabeth Ann (Bletherston PEM 1865 - 1895), [2] DAVIES Sarah Jane (Aberdare GLA 1875 - ?); *3; Boat Builder/Pit Sinker; *4; Hayston Farm, Llanstadwell (1881) / Swansea (1884) / Maesteg (1901); *5; [1] Thomas James 1885 (Llanstadwell) / Phoebe Ann 1887 (Roose PEM) / Watkin William 1893 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Mary Ellen 1891 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / David Edgar 1895 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / [2] David R. 1900 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Samuel R. 1901 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Winifred S. 1906 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / David Lewis 1908 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Edith M. 1909 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Beatrice M 1911 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Gwlym H. 1912 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Daisy E. 1913 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Daisy R. 1915 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / William E. 1917 (Caerau, Maesteg GLA) / Lydia C. 1919; *6; Maesteg GLA Mary Ellen John/Hills); *7; Allan Richards Mary Ellen John/Hills). Frances

Thanks Rose http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/StIshmaels/Families.html Gareth Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html . ----- Original Message ----- From: <Maytree4@aol.com> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:32 PM Subject: [WLS-PEM] Pembrokeshire Families - re-sending due to 'typo'. . . Gareth, Herewith another for St. Ishmael's. . . Rose Gareth, Just noticed I had a typing error in my first attempt . . . Rose ST. ISHMAEL'S; *1;DAVIES Thomas (Talbenny 1809-??); *2; ROWE Margaret (Penally Court, Penally 1810-1869); *3; farmer; *4; Gt. Hoaten, St. Ishmael's (1841) / Gilterns, Walwyn's Castle (1848) / Bicton, St. Ishmael's (1869); *5; Jane 1830 (St. Ishmael's) / John 1832 (St. Ishmael's) / Thomas 1833 (St. Ishmael's) / Ellen 1834 (St. Ishmael's) / Robert 1836 (St. Ishmael's) / Elizabeth 1838 (St. Ishmael's) / Emma 1840 (St. Ishmael's) / Martha 1841 (St. Ishmael's) / Frances 1847 (Walwyn's Castle) / Thomas Henry 1849 (Giltern's, Walwyn's Castle); *6; Fold Farm, Herbrandston PEM 1901 (Martha Davies/Feild); *7; Rosemary May (Martha). ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== Rootsweb list archives[threaded] http://archiver.rootsweb.com/WLSPembrokeshire-L/

Have copy will do look ups Name Search etc Scans of pics etc on request Yours Robert Alun Chick (Penarth S Glam )

Frances wrote: Hi Rachel, Thankyou for the reply. I have amended my records in respect of Robert. Otherwise we more or less agree, except that I have dates of death for Ann(e) 21/6/1840, age 9wks. and Abraham 9/9/1841 age 2mths. These were taken from the parish records. If you are interested to find out more about Begelly and it's history, I recommend the following book, (certain members of the Badham family are mentioned in it.) There are also many interesting picture and photos. It is called - The Story of Begelly by W.R. Morgan ISBN 0 85088 703 8. It may be out of print by now but worth obtaining. You may of course have already read it. There are lots of Badhams still around this area. May I ask did your ancestor William emigrate to America or is it coincidence that you live there. I would love to think that he found a better life than that of coalmining in Begelly. The wind has dropped, Saundersfoot Bay was calm this morning and the temp. is around 8 deg. Regards Frances Thanks Frances, I will definitely add that book to my "find list", along with "A Pembrokeshire Country Man Looks Back" author Cmdr W.R. Morgan, recommended to me a while back by mjroberts of this list. To my knowledge my parents were the first of the family to come to USA, and they returned to England before their deaths. I do however have a Great-Uncle William Badham (Baddam in 1881 census) born Begelly (Wooden) 1875, of whom we know nothing after 1901, as he "ran away from home". He had been apprenticed as a blacksmith, following in the footsteps of his father, but that was not to his liking anymore than mining, according to my Grandfather, George, who supposed he may have gone to Australia, I am hopeful that one day I can find him, as more information is becoming available daily on this wonderful internet. According to one source, there were over 2400 Badhams in America in the 2000 census, but I don't know any of them. I have found references to a William Badham in Virginia as far back as late 1600s, probably a pirate or convict? He seems to have ended up being a trapper, dealing in furs.. I found no record of descendants. I haven't really done any US research. Thanks again, Rachel Ct, USA

Rose , thank you this is great news. I didnot give the grooms name as I wanted to confirm it without 'guidance' which is exactly what has happened. I was trying to clarify the maiden name of Lewis Morgans wife, Martha as there has been some consideration given to a Martha WILLIAMS also born 1795 and Redberth. So what you have found for me is excellent and I shall now see if I can get an image or copy of their marriage certificate/entry. Also your second mail giving Lewis as MORGANS was additional help as 'S 'has been used and omitted from quite early but my Gt ...grandfather was Lewis Morgans. Again many thanks, Sue in LLantrisant. ***************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Maytree4@aol.com To: pippyx@tiscali.co.uk ; WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Martha WHITTA b1795 Sue, Further to my email. The name of the groom should have read "Lewis MORGANS". Sorry, Rose

Does anyone have Martha WHITTA b 1795 Redberth Pembs in their family or research interests.? I am trying to clarify who she married, probably about 1822. Would be really grateful for any information. Cheers, Sue in LLantrisant ********************************************************************

Gareth, Herewith another for St. Ishmael's. . . Rose Gareth, Just noticed I had a typing error in my first attempt . . . Rose ST. ISHMAEL'S; *1;DAVIES Thomas (Talbenny 1809-??); *2; ROWE Margaret (Penally Court, Penally 1810-1869); *3; farmer; *4; Gt. Hoaten, St. Ishmael's (1841) / Gilterns, Walwyn's Castle (1848) / Bicton, St. Ishmael's (1869); *5; Jane 1830 (St. Ishmael's) / John  1832 (St. Ishmael's) / Thomas 1833 (St. Ishmael's) / Ellen 1834 (St. Ishmael's) / Robert 1836 (St. Ishmael's) / Elizabeth 1838 (St. Ishmael's) / Emma 1840 (St. Ishmael's) / Martha  1841 (St. Ishmael's) / Frances 1847 (Walwyn's Castle) / Thomas Henry 1849 (Giltern's, Walwyn's Castle); *6; Fold Farm, Herbrandston PEM 1901 (Martha Davies/Feild); *7; Rosemary May (Martha).

Hello Pat and Siân Thank you both for your info, it is vary much appreciated Kindest Regards Yvonne

Gareth, Herewith another for St. Ishmael's. . . Rose ST. ISHMAEL'S; *1;DAVIES Thomas (Talbenny 1809-??); *2; ROWE Margaret (Penally Court, Penally 1810-1869); *3; farmer; *4; Gt. Hoaten, St. Ishmael's (1841) / Gilterns, Walwyn's Castle (1848) / Bicton, St. Ishmael's (1869); *5; Jane 1830 (St. Ishmael's) / John 1832 (St. Ishmael's) / Thomas 1833 (St. Ishmael's) / Ellen 1834 (St. Ishmael's) / Robert 1836 (St. Ishmael's) / Elizabeth 1938 (St. Ishmael's) / Emma 1840 (St. Ishmael's) / Martha 1841 (St. Ishmael's) / Frances 1847 (Walwyn's Castle) / Thomas Henry 1849 (Giltern's, Walwyn's Castle); *6; Herbrandston PEM 1901 (Martha Davies/Feild); *7; Rosemary May (Martha).

Hi Bettye, I do have the names of Lettice CODD's parents and grandparents. Parents are Tobias CODD and Elizabeth MOORE. Grandparents are William CODD and Eleanor SAISE and Patrick MOORE and Lettice MORGAN. The only information that I have on them is what is on the Mormon site and that is patron submitted. I haven't really done any research myself on them yet. I do know where Tobias and Elizabeth CODD are buried as I have seen the gravestone in Marloes Parish graveyard and copied the information on it. If you have any information on them would love to know what you have. Thanks, Gwen in Bermuda. On 20/1/05, BJ & LC Kirkwood said: >Dear Gwen, > >You may already have them, if not I can give you Lettice Codd's >parents and grandparents. > >Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. ------------------------------------- Gwen Fitch, g.fitch@ibl.bm

Glad to have been able to help. If you contact Pemb s Record Office in Haverford they will send you a copy of the marriage entry. Rose

Sue, Further to my email. The name of the groom should have read "Lewis MORGANS". Sorry, Rose