Tony The url is well dead. All is not lost, the most useful internet archives site shows various historic pages for it, gives up in mid 2003 Search on the url when you get there http://www.archive.org/ Gareth Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Ford" <tony.ford@ntlworld.com> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: [WLS-PEM] Trying to trace a SKYRME researcher called Clive PINCH > This is supplementary to, but in a way separate from, the other posting > that I sent off a few minutes ago. > > My recent "Google" searches relating to my interest in the SKYRME family > in Pembrokeshire have produced multiple tantalising pointers to a site > (now apparently and sadly defunct, it seems) that one Clive Pinch used to > maintain at > <http://www.btinternet.com/~clive.pinch>http://www.btinternet.com/~clive.pinch > : this URL does not work for me, however!! > > Does anyone know either: > > (i) how to make the URL work; and/or > (ii) if Clive Pinch is still around, and (if so) whether there is an > e-mail address for him that I could try? > > I have tried all addresses that are associated with him a few years ago > but sadly all the transmissions that I have attempted have been bounced as > the addresses are no longer valid. > > Finally, maybe others may have copies of some of the material that used to > be on the above site? > > Tony Ford > Guildford, Surrey, UK > > MailTo:tony.ford@ntlworld.com > > Researching: SKYRME > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ > > > >

I would be grateful if any listers can assist in tracing the parents of my wife's 3xgg grandparents. John LAWRENCE b. abt 1796 married Elizabeth DAVIES (b. abt. 1798) in St Mary's Haverfordwest on 21 December 1817. Their children included Jane, Eleanor, William and Essex. Any help will be much appreciated. Henry Johnston

This is supplementary to, but in a way separate from, the other posting that I sent off a few minutes ago. My recent "Google" searches relating to my interest in the SKYRME family in Pembrokeshire have produced multiple tantalising pointers to a site (now apparently and sadly defunct, it seems) that one Clive Pinch used to maintain at <http://www.btinternet.com/~clive.pinch>http://www.btinternet.com/~clive.pinch : this URL does not work for me, however!! Does anyone know either: (i) how to make the URL work; and/or (ii) if Clive Pinch is still around, and (if so) whether there is an e-mail address for him that I could try? I have tried all addresses that are associated with him a few years ago but sadly all the transmissions that I have attempted have been bounced as the addresses are no longer valid. Finally, maybe others may have copies of some of the material that used to be on the above site? Tony Ford Guildford, Surrey, UK MailTo:tony.ford@ntlworld.com Researching: SKYRME

Dear List Members I wonder if any other list members are researching (or may have researched) the name SKYRME in Pembrokeshire in the C19 and earlier? I have only started this angle of enquiry very recently, for the mother of a close friend (her father was a SKYRME, born in 1894). Her great grandfather was a James SKYRME born in Penally, Pembrokshire in about 1842 , and whose own father seems to have been a John SKYRME, whose wife's first name was Mary. James married a Martha RICHARDS, I assume sometime between 1860 and 1866. Jmes and Martha had several children between (at least!) 1865 and 1879, as shown below David John Skyrme - 1865 approx William James Skyrme - 23 June 1867 Edith Mary Skyrme - 1871 approx James Skyrme - 1876 approx Alice Jane Skyrme - 1879 approx Thanks to anyone who can help me look further back up the SKYRME line. N.B.: I am aware that other SKYRME-related material was previously published on the web by others, especially by a Clive Pinch, and I will file a separate posting about that to this list. Tony Ford Guildford, Surrey, UK MailTo:tony.ford@ntlworld.com Researching: SKYRME

Hi Libby It rather looks as though your Anne Brinn was a 'naughty' girl more than once! I have extracted the following from the IGI all baptised at Carew 19 Apr 1857 Margaret Parent Anne Brinn 11 Jun 1860 Lydia " " 1 May 1864 John " " 11 Jun 1870 Amelia " " Only by checking the actual entries in the parish register will you establish whether she was shown as a 'single woman'. Pembrokeshire Record Office - Archives@pembrokeshire.gov.uk Neither Lydia or Amelia appear with Anne on any Census. They may have died shortly after their baptism or have been taken in by their respective fathers under their surnames. Once again a check of the burials register for Carew could provide the answer or you could check FreeBMD or 1837online to see if a Death Certificate was issused for them. Margaret and John did both survive and are listed in the 1881 Census as follows Dwelling: Mutton Hill Census Place: Cosheston, Pembroke, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342303 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5408 Folio 39 Page 5 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Mark GRIFFITHS M 23 M Nash, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Head Occ: General Labourer Margaret GRIFFITHS M 24 F Carew, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Wife Occ: Laborers Wife Anne Jane GRIFFITHS 2 m F Cosheston, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Daur John BRINN U 20 M Carew, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Brother In Law Occ: Dock Yard Laborer You have managed to find Anne in Carew in 1871 but here is her entry in 1861as requested 1861 Census PRO Ref. RG9 Piece No 4152 Folio 18 Page 1 Schedule No 4 Vilage of Carew Robert Brinn, Head, Widr, 78, Stone Quarrier, born Pemboke, St, Florence Anne Brinn, Daur, Unm, 25, Boot (Book?) Binder, born Pembroke, Carew Margaret Brinn, G.Daur, - , 4, - , born Pembroke, Carew 1851 Census Index only PRO Ref. HO107 Piece No 2476 Folio 217 Page 6 Schedule No 22 & *23 Robert Brin, 61, born St. Florence Margaret Brin, 60, born Carew *Anne Brin, 18, born Carew Although Anne is next door to her parents she may not be living on her own but in someone's household. As this is an index it is impossible to establish this. 1841 Census PRO Ref. HO107 Piece 1448 Book 4 Folio 12 Page 21 Carew Mountain, Pembs Robert Brinn, 45, Limestone Quarry, Y Margaret Brinn, 50, - , Y Robert Brinn, 13, - , Y Anne Brinn, 9, - Y Jane Griffiths, 50, Pauper, Y Children of Robert/Margaret Brinn baptised at Carew from the IGI 12 Jan 1817 William 24 Jan 1823 Thomas 19 Mar 1827 Robert 14 Mar 1832 Anne Marriage at Carew from Index 6 July 1816 Robert Brinn, Labourer = Margaret Griffith (She made her mark) Details of witnesses obtainable from parish register entry. Father's names did not appear until commencement of Civil Registration 1837. I collected these as I though they might be connected with my Cosheston Brinn family. Hope this will be of some help Bye for now Joy

Dear Libby, It does not look like there's a husband. In the Village of Carew is Robert Brinn, a widowed Stone Quarrier.....his age might end in a 3....unfortunately there is a big black cross right over the entry, particularly the first figure. He was born at St. Florence. Living with him is Anne his 25 years old Unmarried Boot Binder daughter and his 4 years old granddaughter Margaret. I guess there is always the possibility that Margaret is the daughter of Robert's unknown son, unless you are sure that Anne is her mother. Bettye Kirkwood. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Libby" <beansclarke@sympatico.ca> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:14 AM Subject: [WLS-PEM] RE: 1861 Census BRINN > > Ooops, so sorry I forgot to put something in the subject line so am > resending this message in hope that it will grab someone's attention. > Hello, > I'm hoping someone can do a look up in the 1861 Census for Pembroke. I'm > looking for a Annie(Ann, Anne) BRINN and possible a daughter named > Margaret. > Anne was born approximately 1840 and I'm not sure of her birthplace. > Margaret was born approximately 1857 in Carew, Pembroke. > I believe I have found Annie, Dressmaker, with her son John, in the 1871 > Census for Carew. John was born about 1863 and is 8 in that Census. > I'm hoping that someone can shed some light on this for me as I do not > know if there is a husband in the picture or not. > Thanks in anticipation. > > > Libby Clarke > Bracebridge, ON > Canada > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Dyfed FHS > http://www.dyfedfhs.org.uk/ > >

Hi Libby, I don't know if there is any link but on 27 th June 1778 I have a marriage of a Mary Brinnin in the parish of Carew to Philip Pillips of Jefferston.I hven't been able to trace her family yet so it would be interesting to know if there's a connection. Regards, Joan

I wondered IF there is anyone researching HOOPER-in Pembroke please?Robert and wife Christiana-Robert was born in Brixham,Devon-and Christiana in Hull-she was nee Woodall.Thery married in Hull,in 1869.Like to contact if there is SKS.Thanks Jean

I'm hoping SKS can find this family for me in the 1891 Census: William Thomas, b. 1860 Margaret (wife) Thomas b. 1889 Benjamin b. 1892? They were all born in Pemnbrokeshire ?Tenby. If this is the right Thomas (Tom) then he was living Tenby in 1915 at the time of his marriage in Cornwall. Willam was shown as a Engineer on the marriage certificate and I have found a William Thomas, shown as a Marine Engineer born in Milford Haven on the 1901 Census. From what I know of my husband's family there were some living in Ystalyfera in Gl,amorgan but I know nothing of the link between them and his grandfather William who appears to have been born in Pembrokeshire. TIA Anna Thomas

Ooops, so sorry I forgot to put something in the subject line so am resending this message in hope that it will grab someone's attention. Hello, I'm hoping someone can do a look up in the 1861 Census for Pembroke. I'm looking for a Annie(Ann, Anne) BRINN and possible a daughter named Margaret. Anne was born approximately 1840 and I'm not sure of her birthplace. Margaret was born approximately 1857 in Carew, Pembroke. I believe I have found Annie, Dressmaker, with her son John, in the 1871 Census for Carew. John was born about 1863 and is 8 in that Census. I'm hoping that someone can shed some light on this for me as I do not know if there is a husband in the picture or not. Thanks in anticipation. Libby Clarke Bracebridge, ON Canada

Hello, I'm hoping someone can do a look up in the 1861 Census for Pembroke. I'm looking for a Annie(Ann, Anne) BRINN and possible a daughter named Margaret. Anne was born approximately 1840 and I'm not sure of her birthplace. Margaret was born approximately 1857 in Carew, Pembroke. I believe I have found Annie, Dressmaker, with her son John, in the 1871 Census for Carew. John was born about 1863 and is 8 in that Census. I'm hoping that someone can shed some light on this for me as I do not know if there is a husband in the picture or not. Thanks in anticipation. Libby Clarke Bracebridge, ON Canada

Hi Joan, I have a line of DUGGANs, two in fact, as yet unconnected but unfortunately do not have anything on the persons you named. My Grandfather's mother was Elizabeth DUGGAN born 1830 Castlemartin whose father was John DUGGAN. Sadly, more than that I have not. I have previously had DUGGANs from the Stackpole area in the late 1700s but have no link yet. Apparently there were at least two DUGGAN lines in the Angle area during the 1800s. I will watch for replies to you mailing with great interest. Regards, John Richards. (Hertfordshire) Researching RICHARDS & DUGGAN (SW Pembs) 1800s and earlier. DYFED FHS Member.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Sims" <joan.sims@btinternet.com> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:31 PM Subject: [WLS-PEM] DUGGAN : Hello List, : I am trying to find any information about Alice Duggan married to John Phillips in 1803 in the presence of Abram Duggan and George Duggan. in Castlemartin . Any help would be appreciated. : Regards, : Joan : : : ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== : Genuki PEM : http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/ : : : : -- : No virus found in this incoming message. : Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. : Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 : : -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005

Hello List, I am trying to find any information about Alice Duggan married to John Phillips in 1803 in the presence of Abram Duggan and George Duggan. in Castlemartin . Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Joan

Hello Sheila If I understand you correctly - you are asking for a lookup of possible children of Thomas & Sophia who have already left home by the 1841 census. That is not very easy as there are so many with surname JOHN in the area. As Thomas & Sophia are both from LLanboidy then the first child at least could very well have been born in Llanboidy. The people in that area (of which I have quite a few) move around quite abit - and birthplaces are often different in different census - so the best way to find other children would be in parish registers. Is that where you linked benjamin to Thomas and Sophia rather than any of the other Thomas Johns in the area? However you didn't say whether you already had Thomas & Sophia and family in 1841 and 1851 - so I have added those entries for you to see. Presumably Benjamin married Margaret Davies - was there a link with either of the Davies families that Sophia and Benjamin are in in 1851? I already have Thomas and Sophia on my "notes" as I am looking into Phillips families in the area - Do you know who her parents were? meanwhile - here are the census entries:- 1841 census Llandewy Velfrey enum dist Folio 8 Page 9 Little Wheel? (name is unclear) Thomas John 45 Lab N Sophia " 40 N Elizabeth " 8 Y Sophia " 5 Y 1851 census enum dist 3a Llandewy velfrey Folio 451 Page 18 schedule 63 Bethell Thomas John Head M 59 Ag lab 18 Cmn Llanboidy Sophia John wife M 51 18 Cmn Llanboidy Mary John dau 9 18 Pem Llandewy This could be Sophia in 1851 in Llandewy Velfrey enum dist 3b Folio 460 page 7 schedule 17 Green cottage Elizabeth Davies Head W 77 Landed proprietor Pem Llandewy Velfrey Martha Davies Gdau U 19 Farmer's dau Pem Llandewy Velfrey Sophia John serv U 15 house serv Pem Llandewy Velfrey And a possible for Benjamin in Llandewy Velfrey enum dist 3b Folio 460 Page 6 schedule 13 Waindwrgy David Davies Head M 49 Farmer 115 acres 1 lab Pem Llandewy Margaret Davies wife M 50 Pem Lampeter William Bowen Davies son U 22 Pem Llandewy Velfrey Frances Davies dau 11 at home Pem Llandewy Velfrey Benjamin John serv U 20 Farm serv Pem Llandewy Velfrey Levi Phillip serv U 18 Farm serv Pem Llandewy Velfrey Sophia Mathias serv U 23 House serv Pem Monachlogddu Ann Lewis serv U 18 House serv Cmn Llandissilio I hope some of this helps - feel free to get back to me with any questions. Cheers Pat In message <000a01c513a3$25975980$09760652@sheilas>, Tim Marwood <tim.marwood@ntlworld.com> writes >My gr. grandfather BENJAMIN JOHN was born in Lllandewi Velfrey in 1828. His >parents THOMAS and SOPHIA were married there in 1819. I feel he must have had >some older brothers and sisters. > >On the 1881 census I found >WILLIAM born 1819 in Llandewi V >THOMAS born 1823 " >JOHN born 1825 " > >Could sks see if they could find them on the 1841 and 1851 censuses - I know >they had left home. > >Were there many JOHN families in Llandewi Velfrey? I know Thomas and Sophia >were born in Llanboidy, CMN. > >Many thanks >Sheila in Hertfordshire > . > >______________________________ -- Pat Powell

Good Morning Darryl, I am 99% certain the following is from the 1871 census 1871 RG10 5020 folio 16 page 5. Lists (all born Pembs) Elizabeth RICHARDS 41 Head Widow School Mistress Jane 20 Dau School Mistress dau. John D 18 dau !! Gardener Joseph 15 dau !! Farm Labourer Sarah M 9 dau Scholar Elizabeth DUGGAN 67 Mother Widow Nurse. Can you now confirm? John D Richards came to London around early 1870s to marry in 1878 and I think Joseph followed to be Best Man. Sadly, I have as yet found out very little about Jane and Sarah M. Incidentally, the name you could not decipher is Orielton. There was a Mill there which my grandfather must have know well. Sadly it had to be demolished in the 1970s as unsafe but we now have photos, some artefacts and have seen the location. For the future, I would very much like to expand the DUGGAN line although there are many undiscovered RICHARDS relations out there somewhere. What are your main search directions? Regards, John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl Gwynne" <darryl.gwynne@sympatico.ca> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:28 PM Subject: [WLS-PEM] Joseph RICHARDS family 1851-1861 Monkton : John : : FYI. From my notes, here is the 1851 and 1861 census information (hopefully : error-free as I transcribed it from the census forms!) for your Joseph and : Elizabeth RICHARDS in Monkton. Mother in law was apparently with them in : 1851 (I could not find the family in Monkton in the 1841 and 1871 censuses). : : 1851 : : Residence: Cricelton (<-- not sure of this word) Hill, Monkton : : Joseph Richards Head age 24 occ. Mason, b. Pembs St Twynnels : Elizabeth Richards Wife age 24 (<-- not clear) b. Pembs, Castlemartin : Elizabeth Duggan Visitor age 44 b. Pembs. St Twynnels : (plus two servants - surnames Phillips and Powell) : : 1861 : : Residence ? Cottage, Monkton : : Elizabeth Richards Head Widow age 31 occ. Schoolmistress b. Pembs : Castlemartin : Jane Richards daugh age 10 b. Pembs Monkton : John Richards son age 8 b. Pembs Monkton : Joseph Richards sone age 5 b. Pembs Monkton : : In 1861 also have a Thomas RICHARDS (wife Martha) age 34 b. St Twynells (occ : mason). Let me know if you wish to see details. : : Cheers : : Darryl : GWYNNE, Glen Williams, Canada : ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl Gwynne" <darryl.gwynne@sympatico.ca> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:28 PM Subject: [WLS-PEM] Joseph RICHARDS family 1851-1861 Monkton : John : : FYI. From my notes, here is the 1851 and 1861 census information (hopefully : error-free as I transcribed it from the census forms!) for your Joseph and : Elizabeth RICHARDS in Monkton. Mother in law was apparently with them in : 1851 (I could not find the family in Monkton in the 1841 and 1871 censuses). : : 1851 : : Residence: Cricelton (<-- not sure of this word) Hill, Monkton : : Joseph Richards Head age 24 occ. Mason, b. Pembs St Twynnels : Elizabeth Richards Wife age 24 (<-- not clear) b. Pembs, Castlemartin : Elizabeth Duggan Visitor age 44 b. Pembs. St Twynnels : (plus two servants - surnames Phillips and Powell) : : 1861 : : Residence ? Cottage, Monkton : : Elizabeth Richards Head Widow age 31 occ. Schoolmistress b. Pembs : Castlemartin : Jane Richards daugh age 10 b. Pembs Monkton : John Richards son age 8 b. Pembs Monkton : Joseph Richards sone age 5 b. Pembs Monkton : : In 1861 also have a Thomas RICHARDS (wife Martha) age 34 b. St Twynells (occ : mason). Let me know if you wish to see details. : : Cheers : : Darryl : GWYNNE, Glen Williams, Canada : : : : ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== : Gareth's Help Page : http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html : : : : -- : No virus found in this incoming message. : Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. : Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 : : -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005

on 15/2/05 9:13 pm, Tim Marwood at tim.marwood@ntlworld.com wrote: > My gr. grandfather BENJAMIN JOHN was born in Lllandewi Velfrey in 1828. His > parents THOMAS and SOPHIA were married there in 1819. I feel he must have had > some older brothers and sisters. > > On the 1881 census I found > WILLIAM born 1819 in Llandewi V > THOMAS born 1823 " > JOHN born 1825 " > > Could sks see if they could find them on the 1841 and 1851 censuses - I know > they had left home. > > Were there many JOHN families in Llandewi Velfrey? I know Thomas and Sophia > were born in Llanboidy, CMN. > > Many thanks > Sheila in Hertfordshire Hello Sheila Between 1813 and 1837 the following JOHNs had children baptized at Llandewi Velfrey parish church: Thomas and Docia (Theodosia) John - 3 baptisms (Sarah 21/6/14, Sophia 8/7/16 and John 5/9/18) Thomas was a carpenter (of Llethu in 1816, Llether in 1818) John and Ann(e) John - 4 baptisms (Thomas 30/7/14, Elizabeth 26/7/16, Daniel 5/3/19 and Jane 23/7/21) John was a tailor (of Penlan in 1816, 1819 and 1821) Thomas and Louisa John - 1 baptism (Levi 16/9/27) Thomas was a labourer of Trevangor The 1841 census index is not a great deal of help in finding individuals (ages rounded down, no birth parish) - families are a bit easier. In the 1851 index I couldn't find a William aged 32 and a John aged 26 (both born in Llandewi Velfrey) in the Narberth Enumeration District. I did find a Thomas aged 28 in Narberth parish (HO 107/2475, Folio 480, Page 5, Schedule 16): with Phebe John, 29, b. Llawhaden I believe there is a fair chance that this Phebe is the Phoebe Johns, widow aged 69, born Llawhaden, living in Sheep Street, Narberth in 1891 with her unmarried daughters Margaret A. aged 37, and Eliza aged 30, both dressmakers. Unfortunately none of this helps in proving a connection between your Benjamin and anyone else. Gerry Lewis

I worked with an Albert Moseley who lived in Pembroke Dock about 30 years ago. Maybe the family is still in the area. Regards Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Moseley" <idm.moseley@virgin.net> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Cresselly Parish > Dear Bettye, > Thank you for your reply and to everyone who provided me with this > information. I have not long started on this particular line, I have been > too busy researching my very large Moseley tree and researching for other > Moseley lines. > On all the Census e.g. 1871,1881 and 1891 she is listed as Martha > Andrews, > I have no idea what her maiden name was. > And at the moment I can not find her marriage to Richard Andrews, he was > from Wookey Parish in Somerset, and they lived most of their married life > in > Merthyr Tydfil, so a choice of marriage places, Somerset, unlikely, > Pembrokeshire a possibility, or MT more likely. > > Regards, > Ian. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BJ & LC Kirkwood" <bjkirkwood@bigpond.com> > To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:50 PM > Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Cresselly Parish > > > Dear Ian, > > Cresselly is in Jeffreston, Pembrokeshire. > You failed to tell us your gggrandmother's name.......was she an Allen? > > Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Moseley" <idm.moseley@virgin.net> > To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:20 AM > Subject: [WLS-PEM] Cresselly Parish > > >> Hello all, >> >> I am trying to trace my gggrandmother (paternal). >> >> She married Richard Andrews of Wookey Parish, Somerset and lived most if > not >> all of her married life in Merthyr Tydfil. >> >> On the 1871 census her birth place is listed as Kasey Parish, > Pembrokeshire >> In 1881 as just Pembroke >> and in 1891 as Crishelly. >> I take it that this is supposed to be Cresselly, I have looked at the IGI >> batch numbers and on the GENUKI Pembroke's page but can not find any >> reference to Cresselly. >> >> Is it a parish, or are there no parish records available, or is it a sub >> parish? >> >> Regards, >> Ian, >> not usually baffled with Welsh Counties and Parishes. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 >> >> >> ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Dyfed FHS >> http://www.dyfedfhs.org.uk/ >> > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > National Library of Wales > http://www.llgc.org.uk/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 >

My gr. grandfather BENJAMIN JOHN was born in Lllandewi Velfrey in 1828. His parents THOMAS and SOPHIA were married there in 1819. I feel he must have had some older brothers and sisters. On the 1881 census I found WILLIAM born 1819 in Llandewi V THOMAS born 1823 " JOHN born 1825 " Could sks see if they could find them on the 1841 and 1851 censuses - I know they had left home. Were there many JOHN families in Llandewi Velfrey? I know Thomas and Sophia were born in Llanboidy, CMN. Many thanks Sheila in Hertfordshire .

Dear Ian I have been trying to find a connection between a Phelps family of Cresselly Farm and Creswell Quay to my own without success. I am guessing Cresselly was the name of a large property near Creswell Quay where there are now river-front Cresselly Cottages, according to the net. I like the cricket club site! http://www.cressellycricketclub.co.uk/ I'm sure there is someone out there who knows some detail of the area and its history, Regards Megan Phelps Sydney, Australia On 15/02/2005, at 10:50 AM, BJ & LC Kirkwood wrote: > Dear Ian, > > Cresselly is in Jeffreston, Pembrokeshire. > You failed to tell us your gggrandmother's name.......was she an Allen? > > Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Moseley" <idm.moseley@virgin.net> > To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:20 AM > Subject: [WLS-PEM] Cresselly Parish > > >> Hello all, >> >> I am trying to trace my gggrandmother (paternal). >> >> She married Richard Andrews of Wookey Parish, Somerset and lived most >> if > not >> all of her married life in Merthyr Tydfil. >> >> On the 1871 census her birth place is listed as Kasey Parish, > Pembrokeshire >> In 1881 as just Pembroke >> and in 1891 as Crishelly. >> I take it that this is supposed to be Cresselly, I have looked at the >> IGI >> batch numbers and on the GENUKI Pembroke's page but can not find any >> reference to Cresselly. >> >> Is it a parish, or are there no parish records available, or is it a >> sub >> parish? >> >> Regards, >> Ian, >> not usually baffled with Welsh Counties and Parishes. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 >> >> >> ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Dyfed FHS >> http://www.dyfedfhs.org.uk/ >> > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > National Library of Wales > http://www.llgc.org.uk/ >

Hello Megan, Cresselly is my neck of the woods and is part of Jefferstone Parish. (Jefferston, Jeffreston, Jeffreystone - I have seen all these spellings!) The village and church of Jefferston are about a mile or so away. Most of the property would have once belonged to the Cresselly Estate, owned by the Allen Family who live at Cresselly House. There is a large farm opposite the "Big House" which I believe is Cresselly Farm. Two rows of cottages, fronted by a green still appear to belong to the estate and are known as "The Green". There is a Primitive Chapel which is no longer in use and has been recently converted to a private dwelling. The grave stones still remaining at the front. The school closed last year and we now have a new one situated closer to Jefferston. Their are several other farms and four lodges belonging to the estate which have seen better days. As you know we have an excellent cricket team and the local pub. The Cresswell Arms sells a good pint or so I am told! Cresselly was once a busy place with a coalmine that dated back to Elizabethan times. The coal would have been shipped out from Cresswell Quay and lime for the fields brought in up the Cleddau Estuary. There is little trace of this industry now. The lanes are particularly pretty at this time of the year as primroses grow wild along the Pembrokeshire banks. Hope this gives you a rough idea, if you would like to know anything else or would like any pictures, please ask. Frances