Hi Roland This is really difficult - so I started thinking outside the square..... There seems to be a couple of families in MONMOUTH in 1901! Here is the one with Albert - they are all living together: Mary Farrant 2 Monmouth Cwm Monmouth Ebbwvale Albert Farrant 7 Monmouth Cwm Monmouth Ebbwvale Betrice Farrant 10 Monmouth Cwm Monmouth Ebbwvale Cienwon Farrant 12 Monmouth Cwm Monmouth Ebbwvale Maria Farrant 14 Monmouth Cwm Monmouth Ebbwvale George Farrant 20 Monmouth Cwm Monmouth Ebbwvale Coal Hewer Henry Farrant 23 Monmouth Cwm Monmouth Ebbwvale Coal Hewer Job Farrant 48 England N K Monmouth Ebbwvale Coal Hewer John Farrant 21 Monmouth Cwm Monmouth Ebbwvale Coal Hewer Sarah Farrant 23 Monmouth Cwm Monmouth Ebbwvale If this is the correct Albert - he would be old enough to have had a son in 1917 - and called him Albert william FARRANT. You need to look up the actual census entry to see the relationships - Job may be the father I have more information on this family although I can't find John 21, Henry 23, or George 20, in 1881 yet ( not showing as born in MON anyway ! ) Births Sep 1875 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Farrant Maria Jane Pontypridd 11a 370 this looks like Job FARRANT in 1881 but the age is wrong !!: Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Frederick G. FARRANT Head M Male 51 Mireworth, Kent, England Tea Traveller Mary FARRANT Wife M Female 43 Southwell, Nottingham, England Mary FARRANT Daur U Female 20 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Clem FARRANT Daur U Female 18 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Tye Maker Job FARRANT Son U Male 15 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Warehouse Henry FARRANT Son U Male 12 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Scholar Sophia FARRANT Daur U Female 11 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Scholar Florence FARRANT Daur U Female 7 Camberwell, Surrey, England Scholar Rose FARRANT Daur U Female 6 Camberwell, Surrey, England Scholar -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 8 Hamilton Row Census Place London, Middlesex, If this is correct then: FREDERIC GEORGE FARRANT Christening: 20 DEC 1829 Mereworth, Kent Father: JOHN FARRANT Mother: MARY Hope this helps Cheers Jocelyn Sydney Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <sandradmailbox-familytree@yahoo.co.uk> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] FARRANT, Albert - c.1900 - Pembroke Dock area... > Hi Mark > > Sorry!! I got a bit carried away there - I'll go and rest my brain and > maybe someone will come up with something sensible for you. > > Seriously though if I were you I'd probably try looking for Albert (the > elder's) marriage, that way at least you should have an age for him and > his father's name and you could try looking for them on the 1901 census. > > Best wishes > Sandra > > Markie <mark.kirbys@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Sandra .... Many thanks for this.. > > If Albert died in 1979 aged 62 then he would have been born in 1917 ?? > > This Albert is more likely to be the Albert I listed amongst Albert > FARRANTs children. I know that Albert was Albert's eldest son so this does > tie-in? > > From this we might also reasonably say that Albert (the elder) was > probably born before 1900. > > Any more ideas? > > Many thanks > again > Mark > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sandradmailbox-familytree@yahoo.co.uk > To: Markie > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:04 PM > Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] FARRANT, Albert - c.1900 - Pembroke Dock area... > > > Hello Mark > > There is an Albert William FARRANT listed on > http://www.remembranceonline.co.uk/parcgwyn/ as having died in 1979 aged > 62. If this is the one you're looking for then that would give him a > birth year of approx 1907 which isn't far out of your estimation. That > year is searchable on the downloadable indexes on Freebmd. I couldn't > resist a quick search of the births and did find one Albert William > FARRENT, but he was registered in Wandsworth district in September Qtr of > 1907 (Refs. 1d 483) I only searched 1907, so you may want to expand to > the years either side. > Hope this is useful. > > Sandra > > > > > Markie <mark.kirbys@btinternet.com> wrote: > > Dear List, > I have been attempting to set a close friend of mine off on the great > quest that is genealogy. Unfortunately he knows very little about his > background and we are hoping for a spark of crucial information to set us > in the right direction. > > I posted a query a couple of weeks back regarding this FARRANT family. > Peter Haydn FARRANT was born in 28th April 1929 we believe in Pembroke > Dock or surrounds. He married a Dorothy SILINCE. > > We have now discovered further information regarding Peters' parents and > siblings. His father was an Albert FARRANT who married a Martha ELLINS. We > also know that Albert and Martha had 8 children. Albert, Peter, George, > Michael, Toni, Sheila, Nancy and Gwendoline (died aged 21). > > By reasonable extrapolation it seems likely that Albert FARRANT would have > been born somewhere between 1892 and 1905 and therefore married sometime > between 1912 and 1925. It was always thought that he was born in the > Pembroke Dock area but there is no evidence for this - certainly all or > most of his children were born there. > > Any help that anyone can provide regarding Albert FARRANT of the FARRANT > family in general would be greatly appreciated. > > Many Thanks > Mark Kirby > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Gareth's Help Page > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > >

hi Anna , How old was Tom when he married - there are so many of them ! Do you know how old the father, William, was and where he was born? This is what I found on Free BMD Births Jun 1879 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Thomas Prosser Llanelly 11a 766 Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1900 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Llewellyn Catherine Pontardawe 11a 1385 Thomas Thomas Prosser Pontardawe 11a 1385 Cheers Jocelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <AnnaDinahThomas@aol.com> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 6:27 AM Subject: [WLS-PEM] Tom Thomas: schoolmaster in Tenby > I've a Tom Thomas, a schoolmaster, who was living in Tenby at the time of > his marriage in Cornwall in 1915. I'm trying to find out if he was > originally > from Tenby or from Glamorgan and simply working in Tenby. Could SKS > check if > he and, if possible, his father William, an engineer can be found on a > voting list at that time. He was using the surname Prosser Thomas at the > time of > his marriage but this has been of no help. I know that family were > living > in the Ystalyfera area as recently as twenty years ago but for various > reasons > my husbands family lost touch. TIA. > > Anna Thomas > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb list archives[threaded] > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/WLSPembrokeshire-L/ > >

Hi Lynn, I have a interest in the Roch family - they were neighbours of my Davies family of St. Ishmaels and I know Butterhill (or what is left of it) very well indeed. I do have a very limited knowledge of the family. Rose

on 1/4/05 1:04 am, Lyn Tregilgas at lyn.tregilgas@ozemail.com.au wrote: > In a Topographical Dictionary of Wales 1833, I see that a Mr Roch was a > prominent citizen of St Ishmaels. Does anyone know anything about him please. > > Lyn > Adelaide > South Australia Hello Lyn Four members of the Roch family, who lived at the house called Butterhill [now a ruin] in St Ishmaels from 17?? to 1906, were High Sheriffs [of Pembrokeshire?]. This very limited information was gleaned from "Historic Pembrokeshire Homes and their Families" [Major Francis Jones] The only possible candidate in the 1841 census index is a George Roch described as "Ind."[of independent means] aged 45, living with a William Roch, clergyman [40] and a Martha Roch [25, not born in PEM] Gerry Lewis

on 1/4/05 8:11 am, chris Evans at chris.m.evans@ntlworld.com wrote: > > Hi all , > i was wondering if anybody would be kind enough to look up in the 1841 and > 51 census for a john evans ,aged 69 in 1852 when he passed away. > i found his gravestone in the henrys moat church yard and it was the only > evans ones left so am curious to see if eventually i can get a link with my > ancestors who were in henrys moat at the same time. > thanks > chris evans Hello Chris No John Evan/s in Henry's Moat in 1851, but there was a 68 year old John Evans in Maenclochog parish, just to the east of Henry's Moat. He was born in Llandissilio, CMN. He was living with Herbert aged 6, Mary aged 40 also born Llandissilio, CMN, Naomi [8], Ruth [10] and Unice [13]. In the 1841 census index he was also in Maenclochog, described as a farmer. Gerry Lewis

Hello Pembrokeshire listers, I want to thank all interested parties who answered my general query about the surname Morse in Pembrokeshire. I was hoping to have had more specific information on Friday, i.e. yesterday, but it was not forthcoming. There is a relative on holiday, so it will have to wait until his return. I have answered some already, but have not managed all. Lack of time being the reason, not of lack of interest. Gerry, I shall be back. Thank you so much for the rundown on the number of Morse families in different districts of Pembrokeshire. Until more information turns up, I wish you all a very happy weekend. Regards, Maureen Jenkins Upper Rhondda

Hi Mark Sorry!! I got a bit carried away there - I'll go and rest my brain and maybe someone will come up with something sensible for you. Seriously though if I were you I'd probably try looking for Albert (the elder's) marriage, that way at least you should have an age for him and his father's name and you could try looking for them on the 1901 census. Best wishes Sandra Markie <mark.kirbys@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi Sandra .... Many thanks for this.. If Albert died in 1979 aged 62 then he would have been born in 1917 ?? This Albert is more likely to be the Albert I listed amongst Albert FARRANTs children. I know that Albert was Albert's eldest son so this does tie-in? From this we might also reasonably say that Albert (the elder) was probably born before 1900. Any more ideas? Many thanks again Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: sandradmailbox-familytree@yahoo.co.uk To: Markie Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] FARRANT, Albert - c.1900 - Pembroke Dock area... Hello Mark There is an Albert William FARRANT listed on http://www.remembranceonline.co.uk/parcgwyn/ as having died in 1979 aged 62. If this is the one you're looking for then that would give him a birth year of approx 1907 which isn't far out of your estimation. That year is searchable on the downloadable indexes on Freebmd. I couldn't resist a quick search of the births and did find one Albert William FARRENT, but he was registered in Wandsworth district in September Qtr of 1907 (Refs. 1d 483) I only searched 1907, so you may want to expand to the years either side. Hope this is useful. Sandra Markie <mark.kirbys@btinternet.com> wrote: Dear List, I have been attempting to set a close friend of mine off on the great quest that is genealogy. Unfortunately he knows very little about his background and we are hoping for a spark of crucial information to set us in the right direction. I posted a query a couple of weeks back regarding this FARRANT family. Peter Haydn FARRANT was born in 28th April 1929 we believe in Pembroke Dock or surrounds. He married a Dorothy SILINCE. We have now discovered further information regarding Peters' parents and siblings. His father was an Albert FARRANT who married a Martha ELLINS. We also know that Albert and Martha had 8 children. Albert, Peter, George, Michael, Toni, Sheila, Nancy and Gwendoline (died aged 21). By reasonable extrapolation it seems likely that Albert FARRANT would have been born somewhere between 1892 and 1905 and therefore married sometime between 1912 and 1925. It was always thought that he was born in the Pembroke Dock area but there is no evidence for this - certainly all or most of his children were born there. Any help that anyone can provide regarding Albert FARRANT of the FARRANT family in general would be greatly appreciated. Many Thanks Mark Kirby

Hello Mark There is an Albert William FARRANT listed on http://www.remembranceonline.co.uk/parcgwyn/ as having died in 1979 aged 62. If this is the one you're looking for then that would give him a birth year of approx 1907 which isn't far out of your estimation. That year is searchable on the downloadable indexes on Freebmd. I couldn't resist a quick search of the births and did find one Albert William FARRENT, but he was registered in Wandsworth district in September Qtr of 1907 (Refs. 1d 483) I only searched 1907, so you may want to expand to the years either side. Hope this is useful. Sandra Markie <mark.kirbys@btinternet.com> wrote: Dear List, I have been attempting to set a close friend of mine off on the great quest that is genealogy. Unfortunately he knows very little about his background and we are hoping for a spark of crucial information to set us in the right direction. I posted a query a couple of weeks back regarding this FARRANT family. Peter Haydn FARRANT was born in 28th April 1929 we believe in Pembroke Dock or surrounds. He married a Dorothy SILINCE. We have now discovered further information regarding Peters' parents and siblings. His father was an Albert FARRANT who married a Martha ELLINS. We also know that Albert and Martha had 8 children. Albert, Peter, George, Michael, Toni, Sheila, Nancy and Gwendoline (died aged 21). By reasonable extrapolation it seems likely that Albert FARRANT would have been born somewhere between 1892 and 1905 and therefore married sometime between 1912 and 1925. It was always thought that he was born in the Pembroke Dock area but there is no evidence for this - certainly all or most of his children were born there. Any help that anyone can provide regarding Albert FARRANT of the FARRANT family in general would be greatly appreciated. Many Thanks Mark Kirby

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Dear List, I have been attempting to set a close friend of mine off on the great quest that is genealogy. Unfortunately he knows very little about his background and we are hoping for a spark of crucial information to set us in the right direction. I posted a query a couple of weeks back regarding this FARRANT family. Peter Haydn FARRANT was born in 28th April 1929 we believe in Pembroke Dock or surrounds. He married a Dorothy SILINCE. We have now discovered further information regarding Peters' parents and siblings. His father was an Albert FARRANT who married a Martha ELLINS. We also know that Albert and Martha had 8 children. Albert, Peter, George, Michael, Toni, Sheila, Nancy and Gwendoline (died aged 21). By reasonable extrapolation it seems likely that Albert FARRANT would have been born somewhere between 1892 and 1905 and therefore married sometime between 1912 and 1925. It was always thought that he was born in the Pembroke Dock area but there is no evidence for this - certainly all or most of his children were born there. Any help that anyone can provide regarding Albert FARRANT of the FARRANT family in general would be greatly appreciated. Many Thanks Mark Kirby

I've a Tom Thomas, a schoolmaster, who was living in Tenby at the time of his marriage in Cornwall in 1915. I'm trying to find out if he was originally from Tenby or from Glamorgan and simply working in Tenby. Could SKS check if he and, if possible, his father William, an engineer can be found on a voting list at that time. He was using the surname Prosser Thomas at the time of his marriage but this has been of no help. I know that family were living in the Ystalyfera area as recently as twenty years ago but for various reasons my husbands family lost touch. TIA. Anna Thomas

Hi Listers I know this a long shot but could some kind person (if they have a spare moment)try to find a John James born 24 7 1860,his fathers name was William James ,mothers name not known.I am afraid i donot know which part of Pembrokeshire they came from.In the family bible he wrote he came from Pembrokeshire but on the 1881 census he put his place of birth as Swansea,but then on the 1891 and the 1901 he put it down as Pembrokeshire so iam taking the first one as the correct one. best regards to all alvina alvinarichards@hotmail.co.uk _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Hi Elida Surely not, although I don't know what the problem might be - but I'm sure Sylvia will respond to you when she reads your message Gareth Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elida" <purrysburg@islc.net> To: "Gareth" <gareth@tytwp.plus.com>; <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:33 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] 1871 Pem census update - cross posting > The registration page will not accept my email address. Why? > > Is this search link closed to others than British? > > Thanks, > Elida of South Carolina, USA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gareth" <gareth@tytwp.plus.com> > To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:38 AM > Subject: [WLS-PEM] 1871 Pem census update - cross posting > > >> Sylvia Birch tells me that the first part of the 1871 Pem census is now >> online at www.cenquest.co.uk and joins the entire 1891 census, both > indexes >> are of course free to search. >> >> The areas of 1871 below are those covered at present - together with >> complete records for All Army, Navy, Shipping, Pauper Institutions and >> Trinity House for both years. >> >> >> ################## >> >> 1871 Pembrokeshire census area coverage (Interim Block 1). >> >> A Amroth, Angle, Angle Bay Milford Haven >> >> B Begelly, Bletherston, Bosherston, Burton >> >> C Caldey Island and Lighthouse, Carew, Castlederran, Castlemartin, >> Cilmaenllwyd, Clarbeston, Coedcanlas, Cosheston, Crinow, Crunwear, Cyffig >> >> E East Williamston, Eglwyscymmin, Eglwysfairachurrig >> >> G Grondre, Gumfreston >> >> H Henllan Amgoed, Hodgeston >> >> J Jeffreston >> >> L Lampeter Velfrey, Lamphey, Lawhaden, Lawrenny Llanboidy, Llandilo, >> Llandysillio, Llanfallteg, Llangan, Llangan Hamlet, Llanglydwen, > Llangolman, >> Llanstadwell, Llanycefn, Llysyfran Loveston, Ludchurch >> >> M Maenclochog, Manorbier, Marros, Martletwy, Minwere, Monachlogddu, > Monkton, >> Mounton >> >> N Narberth, Narberth South, Nash, New Moat, Newton, Neyland >> >> P Pembroke, Pembroke Dock, Penally, Penally Barracks, Pendine, >> Pwllcrochan >> >> R Redberth, Reynoldston, Rhoscrowther, Robeston Wathen, Rosemarket >> >> S Slebech St St Florence, St Issells, St Mary Pembroke, St Mary Pembroke >> Dock, St Mary Tenby in Liberty, St Mary Tenby out Liberty, St Michaels >> Pembroke, St Petrox, St Twynnels, Stackpole Elidor, Steynton >> >> T Tenby and Harbour >> >> U Upton >> >> V Vorlan >> >> W Warren >> >> Y Yerbeston >> ############################ >> >> Gareth >> Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists >> Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ >> Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html >> Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html >> Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html >> >> . >> >> >> >> ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Welsh Family History Archive > http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm >> > > > -- > This email has been verified as Virus free > Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net >

Hi Lyn Have a look at the ones listed on Genuki, although not an exhaustive list http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/MilfordHaven/index.html Gareth Admin for the Rootsweb DYFED, CGN & PEM lists Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Tregilgas" <lyn.tregilgas@ozemail.com.au> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 2:16 AM Subject: [WLS-PEM] READING MATTER > Hello Listers, as many of my ancestors came from the Milford Haven area I > wonder if anyone could recommend a good book I could read regarding the > way people would have lived in say the 1800s. > > I have just read the wonderful book "A Vision of Greatness" by Wing > Commander K.D.McKay. > > Regards > Lyn > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Welsh Family History Archive > http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm > > > >

Hello I would like to thank all those list members who helped me with my search for information on Stephen Davies. With your help, I have found quite a bit about him, and I must say how helpful a list you are. I really appreciate all your work and help, thank you all. Jim

Hello Listers, as many of my ancestors came from the Milford Haven area I wonder if anyone could recommend a good book I could read regarding the way people would have lived in say the 1800s. I have just read the wonderful book "A Vision of Greatness" by Wing Commander K.D.McKay. Regards Lyn

Pat Powell <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> wrote: For anyone searching for a possible cremation I would like to point out that this book of remembrance presumably does not contain the names of all those who were cremated there as I have just searched for someone whose cremation I attended and her name is not there. ================== Dear Listers, What Pat says is probably true, but there may also be errors in the spelling of the names of individuals entered in the Book of Remembrance. I already know that my late aunt and uncle, Frank and Alice PENNEY, cremated at Narberth in 1975 and 1976, have entries in the Book of Remembrance. To test the on-line database, I first conducted a search for Alice PENNEY but much to my surprise, received a negative result. I then searched for and found Frank PENNEY. I eventually discovered that my Aunt Alice is entered with a misspelt surname, PENNY. So failure to find an individual could be for one of at least four reasons: 1. He or she was not cremated at Narberth. 2. He or she was cremated at Narberth but does not have an entry in the Book of Remembrance. 3. The entry in the Book of Remembrance is misspelt. 4. The name in the Book of Remembrance was incorrectly transcribed into the search index. Nevertheless, as Pat says, the facility is a useful one. Kind regards, John ---------------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, near Swansea, Wales, UK E-mail: wfha@clara.co.uk Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/ Images of Wales: http://home.clara.net/wfha/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.5 - Release Date: 29/03/2005

In a Topographical Dictionary of Wales 1833, I see that a Mr Roch was a prominent citizen of St Ishmaels. Does anyone know anything about him please. Lyn Adelaide South Australia

Hello Sandra Thank you very much for pointing this out to us. For anyone searching for a possible cremation I would like to point out that this book of remembrance presumably does not contain the names of all those who were cremated there as I have just searched for someone whose cremation I attended and her name is not there. However It is still a very useful link . Thank you again Pat In message <20050331173940.77640.qmail@web86101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>, sandradmailbox-familytree@yahoo.co.uk writes >This website was pointed out to me today, it may be useful for searching for >death dates for more recently departed relatives. Its the searchable book of >remembrance of Parc Gwyn Crematorium, Narberth (the only crematorium in Pembs). > > http://www.remembranceonline.co.uk/parcgwyn/ > >Sandra > >______________________________ -- Pat Powell

Maureen I did a quick surname and place check on the 1901 census and got: MORSE - PEMBROKESHIRE - 38 INDIVIDUALS MORSE - PEMBROKE - 152 INDIVIDUALS Not so many, but enought to keep you busy for a while! Megan MJen512444@aol.com wrote: Hello list, This is not a specific request as yet. I am waiting for some information from a friend, so that I can make specific requests. All I have at the moment is, that a family carrying the surname Morse from Pembrokeshire, will be at the centre of the enquiry when it presents itself. At this moment, I suppose I am just wondering just how many, or how few, Morse families I will be searching for. If this is too vague, then please accept my apologies for this initial outburst. I will be back perhaps within a week. Happy hunting everyone, Maureen Jenkins Rhondda ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== Pembrokeshire Archives email claire.orr@pembrokeshire.gov.uk Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com