Hello all of you from a wild & wet Whitehaven in Cumbria We are trying to find out about our GGM's family, WILLIAMS from Fishguard, who we think were connected with shipbuilding in the early 1800's Our GGM's first name was ELIZABETH. Can anyone help Peter & Christine Peter@ Johnstone45.freeserve.co.uk

Jesse, I have had a look at my DAVID/S/ES database for the whole of Pembrokeshire (based on the IGI). There are no records of a Sarah and Elizabeth whose father may have been Josuah Davies. However, all is not lost for within the database there is listed as follows:- Birth Sarah DAVIES (no parents listed) 19th September 1865 Creswell. Film# 183543, Page 75. Ordinance 2361. Note that the 'baptism' of Sarah into the LDS church was in 1932 and as such you may not find descendants. Regards, Graham Davies > -----Original Message----- > From: OLDGUY32@aol.com [SMTP:OLDGUY32@aol.com] > Sent: 03 November 2000 05:07 > To: WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Davis > > Looking for information on sisters Sarah and Elizabeth Davis > Immigrated from Wales to U.S. around 1872 as indentured servants > Sarah may have been only 7 years old at that time. > Father's name reportedly was Joshua Davis > No record of him or wife (name unknown) coming to U.S. with them. > Thank You > Jesse Strange (oldguy32@aol.com) >

Looking for information on sisters Sarah and Elizabeth Davis Immigrated from Wales to U.S. around 1872 as indentured servants Sarah may have been only 7 years old at that time. Father's name reportedly was Joshua Davis No record of him or wife (name unknown) coming to U.S. with them. Thank You Jesse Strange (oldguy32@aol.com)

Looking for information on Anglican minister Rev. James DALTON. Pembrokeshire mid 1800's. Thanks, Elida in SC, USA

John, In response to your question, I'm also posting this to all of the mailing lists I'm subscribed to as there are probably many new subscribers who aren't aware of this: For anyone researching in Wales, the one book I consider to be a "must have" is "Welsh Family History, A Guide to Research", ed. by John & Sheila Rowlands, 2nd edition1998, pub. by the Federation of Family History Societies Publications Ltd. and the authors, ISBN 1 86006 065 X. This edition (and other genealogical research books/guides) can now be purchased online from the Society of Genealogists, London -- website: http://www.sog.org.uk/acatalog/welcome.html --- under British Research/Wales/Genealogical Guides from the online catalog page. For those of us who live outside the UK, this online purchasing method is extremely convenient! *PLEASE*, *PLEASE*, purchase (and read!) this book, as it will answer many of the basic questions posed to the lists (and directly to lookup exchange volunteers) by new researchers who are unfamiliar with the types of records available. It also addresses those records that go beyond the obvious parish registers, Bishops' Transcripts, and Census Returns, and which are often overlooked by many researchers. In addition, purchasing Ordnance Survey maps of the areas you're researching is also essential, and will clear up many frustrations encountered due to your unfamiliarity with the locale. Julie Preston juliepreston@ameritech.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "john richards" <john@gtwest.freeserve.co.uk> To: <juliepreston@ameritech.net> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 4:37 PM Subject: Welsh Family History > Hello Julie, > > Sounds interesting, do you by any chance have the ISBN number and /or > author. > > John Richards. (London UK) > Searching > RICHARDS, WIFFEN, DAY (London & Middx.) > WIFFEN & NORRIS (Stock, Essex) > RICHARDS & DUGGAN (Pembs) DFHS 2715 > DAY, SAUNDERS, (North Surrey)

Hi all, Does anyone know how to go about finding Quaker records for the Pembroke & Redstone Monthly Meetings in South Wales? I'm researching the following JONES family who apparently appear in those records, beginning in 1708: 1. Francis JONES I was born about 1660, perhaps in County Wexford? Ireland. Died about 13 May 1742 in Leacock? Lancaster County? PA. Francis was a Quaker and he is first found in the records of the Quaker meeting at Jamestown, South Wales. He moved from there and was first listed in the minutes of the Pembroke, South Wales Monthly Meeting on 15th day, 8th month, 1708. This monthly meeting was located in or near Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, South Wales. From the Quaker meeting minutes, it appears that Francis and his family lived near Jamestown, South Wales (which is near Manorbrier, a village not far from Tenby). Jamestown was within the verge of the Redstone Monthly Meeting. The monthly meetings actually alternated between Redstone and Pembrokeshire at Haverfordwest. Apparently the minutes of the Jamestown Monthly Meeting have been lost (can anyone on this list confirm this or refer me to someone who knows?). Per Dillwyn Miles (Haverfordwest writer): George Fox, the founder of the Society of Friends, accompanied by John ap John, toured through Wales and came to Haverfordwest in 1657 where he received a welcome and had a "great meeting". (Pat Powell and Elaine Barsosky kindly provided me with some information on the locations of the Haverfordwest & Redstone Monthly Meetings which I will not post here, to save space.) Francis only lived in Jamestown about three years, for on the 20th day of the 5th month, 1711, the Redstone Monthly Meeting granted the following certificate to him (I'll list it only in case someone else is tracking the surnames mentioned): "Whereas we understand that our friend Francis JONES and his family intends to transport themselves to Pensivlania, in america and Desires a certificate from friends on that account: These are therefore to Certifie all whom it may concern -- that about three years ago they came over here to Pembrock Sheire from Ireland and Ever since did belong to our Monthly Meeting at Redstone and have all along lived in Love and peace with friends and Neighbors and behaved themselves orderly and Cyvil in all Respects, to the utmost of our Knowledge and also do depart out of our Countrey in Love and with Consent of friends; who truely wisheth and Desireth that the Lord may Bless and prosper them in all their good intentions Especially in their inward and Spirituall undertaking and Concerns of Soul Salvation, etc. Signed by us: Tho: CORNOCK, Sr.; Tho: CORNOCK, Jr.; James LEWIS, Sr.; D. MUSGRAVE, Jr.; David MUSGRAVE; James S. KONE; James LEWIS, Jr." The Jones' Pennsylvania references were deleted to save space. He married Rachel NEWTON about 1687. Rachel NEWTON was born on 9 Oct 1662 in Corbally, Queen's County, England to Jonas NEWTON and Jane URIN or WINN?. Rachel was born 9th day, 8th month, 1662. She was probably closely related to Sir Isaac Newton (half sister or aunt). They had the following children: +2 i. Samuel JONES was born on 1 May 1688 in Ireland. +3 ii. Francis JONES II was born 29 Jun 1690 in Ireland. +4 iii. Henry JONES was born on 24 Apr 1693 in Ireland. 5 iv. Jonas JONES was born on 15 Jun 1695 in Ireland?. If anyone wants more details on this line, feel free to contact me. Thanks in advance. Bill Denney--Vancouver USA

For a nice map of Pembrokeshire try: www.pembrokeshire-online.co.uk/map.htm

Hi, Reading a little history of Pembrokeshire, SW Wales today, I came across a few new items: George FOX, who founded the Society of Friends went to Pembroke and Haverfordwest in 1657 and recruited members - following his visits Quaker Meetings started in Redstone which is/was near Narberth, St. David's, Newport, and Haverfordwest. There was a member named Lewis DAVID who, along with others, was imprisoned for his religious beliefs. They eventually emigrated to Pennsylvania, DAVID purchasing 3,000 acres from Wm. PENN. DAVID and his fellow Quakers settled the townships named Haverford and Narberth, Montgomery County, now towns which are located in Lower Merion Township, Montgomery Co., PA. This is the eastern part of Philadelphia's "Welsh Tract" founded by Penn's 'Original Purchasers' of 1682 and 83. The western side of the "Welsh Tract" is in Chester County, Pennsylvania. "Passengers and Ships Prior to 1684 Penn's Colony: Volume 1" by Walter Sheppard, Jr. pub. 1985 by The Welcome Society of Pennsylvania has Lewis DAVID listed as settling in Darby 1686. The 1722 Tax List for Delaware County, PA has these listings: DAVID, Hugh - Radnor DAVID, Jenkin - Radnor DAVID, John - Haverford DAVID, John (single man) - Radnor DAVID, Lewis - Darby DAVID, Thomas - Haverford. The first part of Pennsylvania's Government Archives which is known as the "Colonial Records" and goes from the start of Pennsylvania to just after the Revolution has in Vol. 1 a Lues DAVID and in Vol. 4 a Lewis DAVID. The name DAVID often became DAVIS in Pennsylvania. As many already know, there was a great deal of intermarriage between the early British, German, Dutch, and Swedish settlers of these areas of PA. Good luck, Elida in South Carolina, USA

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Hello everyone Having been quite successful with the more recent members, my father was one of nine, I felt it time to turn to the past. All my descendants appear to stem from the southern part of Pembrokeshire - Monkton, St Twynnells generally - and to date I can see no association with Cornwall or across the pond. Any connection with the following siblings is awaited with keen anticipation:- Joseph RICHARDS b.1793 m. 1821 to Elizabeth ? b.1790 # Henry RICHARDS b.1801 m. Jane ? b.1808 James RICHARDS b.1802 m. 7/1/1828 to Jane GRIFFITHS Thomas RICHARDS b.1804 m. Hannah ? ## William RICHARDS b.1808 m. 1834 to Abra ? ### Mary RICHARDS b.1810 m. 1834 to William DAVIS Jane RICHARDS b. 1818 Elizabeth RICHARDS b. 1819 m. 26/3/1850 to William GRIFFITHS Matha RICHARDS b. 1820 m. 13/11/1847 to Thomas SMITH John RICHARDS b.1821 m. Jane ? #### # Joseph & Elizabeth had Thomas b.24/2/1822, Francis b.28/7/1824 & who m. 29/9/1846 Matha Lloyd. Martin b. 28/12/1828 d.24/12/1855. John b.15/4/1831 & who m. Martha ? ## Thomas & Hannah had a son Henry b. 26/8/1834 ### William & Abra had a son Benjamin b.10/3/1835 #### John & Jane had 3 sons, George b. May 1835, John b. 21/2/1835, James b. 7/10/1838 I could go on, no, just kidding. John Richards. London UK In for a very stormy night. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.198 / Virus Database: 95 - Release Date: 04/10/00

Is there a Wales GenWeb Archives Search Page? Is there a GenWeb page specific to Pembrokeshire? Searchable? Is there a Rootsweb Archive page specific to Pembrokeshire? Searchable? Or am I just whistling Dixie? I'm just a little buffaloed by all these "look-up" links. How does one get back to researching 1700's Pembrokeshire? Elida, Befuddled in South Carolina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gareth" <W/gen@johngareth.freeserve.co.uk> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 12:23 PM Subject: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Pem Archives goes e-mail !! > Anita Thomas of Haverfordwest Library tells me that Pem Archives also in > H'west at last has its own email address. > Now don't all mail claire at once :-) > > claire.orr@pembrokeshire.gov.uk > > Gareth > List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. > Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html > Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html > > >

Just to say MANY THANKS, to all who responded to my request about Kilwendeg aka Cil wen deg. I have just visited the old maps, Ordinance Survey maps for 1891 and see that it was once a beautiful old park. Unfortunately, I didn't see where I could order the map. I know some are available for sale because I bought some when I was in the UK in 1998. If you don't know the old maps site, it is well worth a visit and very well organized by county and within the county towns and villages. http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: <DYFED-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <DYFED-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 9:00 PM Subject: DYFED-D Digest V00 #536

Anita Thomas of Haverfordwest Library tells me that Pem Archives also in H'west at last has its own email address. Now don't all mail claire at once :-) claire.orr@pembrokeshire.gov.uk Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html

Julie said; <Someone else with an English surname book might pop up with more on the subject. There is at least one such book in the depths of the All Wales Lookup Exchange. Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Preston" <juliepreston@ameritech.net> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 3:50 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] SURNAME ORIGIN > Hal, > > I live in Michigan, but "The Surnames of Wales" does not list HESTERLY as a > "Welsh" surname. This is not to say there were no HESTERLY's who lived in > Wales. Pembrokeshire was described as the "Little England in Wales" due to > the many English who've always populated that county. > > I just did a search of the 1881 Census Index for Wales & Monmouthshire and > there were no entries for anyone with the surname HESTERLY, ESTERLY, or any > variations of those. There were 6 people born & living in Monmouthshire > with the surname HESTER. > > Following a hunch, I checked the rest of the UK and again, no entries for > HESTERLY, but there were 47 people with the surname EASTERLY or variations, > including a smattering of people in the counties of Denbighshire, Flintshire > and Montgomeryshire in Wales with the surname ASTERL(E)Y. I suspect this is > where your HESTERLY came from, or vice-versa, so that by 1881 the name > HESTERLY had changed to EASTERLY or ASTERLY. There were none whatsoever in > the counties of south or west Wales, so you might want to concentrate your > search with the surname ASTERL(E)Y in the northern counties of Wales and/or > the bordering English counties like Shropshire, etc. > > Hope this helps a bit. Someone else with an English surname book might pop > up with more on the subject. > > Regards, > > Julie Preston > juliepreston@ameritech.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <NHHS48@aol.com> > To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:04 PM > Subject: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] SURNAME ORIGIN > > > > Hi, > > > > My first post to this list. Hope everyone finds something of use here. > My > > first question is, are there any listers here who are located in Wales? > In > > the likelyhood that there are my second question is: > > > > HESTERLY-- can anyone confirm for me that this surname is of Welsh origin? > I > > have been told and several people in the US have posted to various sites > that > > one of my ancestors cam to America in 1815 from Wales. I have discovered > the > > name or variations in the IGI for the British Isles, but nothing in Wales. > > Thanks!!!! > > > > Hal in Florida > > > > > > >

Hal, I live in Michigan, but "The Surnames of Wales" does not list HESTERLY as a "Welsh" surname. This is not to say there were no HESTERLY's who lived in Wales. Pembrokeshire was described as the "Little England in Wales" due to the many English who've always populated that county. I just did a search of the 1881 Census Index for Wales & Monmouthshire and there were no entries for anyone with the surname HESTERLY, ESTERLY, or any variations of those. There were 6 people born & living in Monmouthshire with the surname HESTER. Following a hunch, I checked the rest of the UK and again, no entries for HESTERLY, but there were 47 people with the surname EASTERLY or variations, including a smattering of people in the counties of Denbighshire, Flintshire and Montgomeryshire in Wales with the surname ASTERL(E)Y. I suspect this is where your HESTERLY came from, or vice-versa, so that by 1881 the name HESTERLY had changed to EASTERLY or ASTERLY. There were none whatsoever in the counties of south or west Wales, so you might want to concentrate your search with the surname ASTERL(E)Y in the northern counties of Wales and/or the bordering English counties like Shropshire, etc. Hope this helps a bit. Someone else with an English surname book might pop up with more on the subject. Regards, Julie Preston juliepreston@ameritech.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <NHHS48@aol.com> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:04 PM Subject: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] SURNAME ORIGIN > Hi, > > My first post to this list. Hope everyone finds something of use here. My > first question is, are there any listers here who are located in Wales? In > the likelyhood that there are my second question is: > > HESTERLY-- can anyone confirm for me that this surname is of Welsh origin? I > have been told and several people in the US have posted to various sites that > one of my ancestors cam to America in 1815 from Wales. I have discovered the > name or variations in the IGI for the British Isles, but nothing in Wales. > Thanks!!!! > > Hal in Florida > >

Hi, My first post to this list. Hope everyone finds something of use here. My first question is, are there any listers here who are located in Wales? In the likelyhood that there are my second question is: HESTERLY-- can anyone confirm for me that this surname is of Welsh origin? I have been told and several people in the US have posted to various sites that one of my ancestors cam to America in 1815 from Wales. I have discovered the name or variations in the IGI for the British Isles, but nothing in Wales. Thanks!!!! Hal in Florida

Dear Kate, Have been out of town for awhile...just saw your request for information on the above. Since it doesn't appear you've had a reply here goes... >From Major Francis Jones "Historic Houses of Pembrokeshire and Their Families": CILWENDEG, Capel Colman. This place is situated about half a mile east of Capel Colman parish church...one and one quarter miles to the northeast of Boncath. The first owner was Llewelyn ap Howel, descended from Edwyfed Fychan of Gwynedd, Seneschal of Prince Llewelyn the Great. Llewelyn was there in the early 16th century...followed by his son David Llewelyn...he was followed by his son Llewelyn David. The last named was followed by his son David Llewelyn living in 1646. In 1670 he paid for two hearth taxes...suggesting it was a small house then. On 17 September 1687 he conveyed the capital messuage of Cilwendeg to his son and heir apparent Jonathan Llewelyn. Jonathan mortgaged the property in the same year to David John. On 13 January 1698-9 Jonathan assigned the equity of redemption of Place Kilwendeg, Wenros Ucha and Isha, to Miss Mary Skyrme, daughter of William Skyrme of Llawhaden Esq. The mortgage of 1687 held by David John passed to his widow and son who assigned it to Jacob Morgan of Vaynor, Manordeifi, attorney, who afterwards acqured the freehold of Cilwendeg and lived there. Jacob died in 1732-33 and left three daughters. The property passed to the youngest daughter, Margaret Morgan who married John Jones of Llanbadarn, Cards., and settled at his wife's house. Their descendants succeeded to Cilwendeg; Morgan Jones was High Sheriff in 1801 and his nephew of the same name in 1831. The family left Cilwendeg in the second half of the 19th century and were settled at Llwynbedw, Penylan in the Tivyside, and at Llanmilo near Pendine. Morgan Jones of Llanmilo was High Sheriff of Carms. in 1909. Fenton in his Tour of 1811 writes 'another handsome mansion of modern growth, Cylywendeg, bursts upon the eye, built by the gentleman who how inhabits it, Morgan Jones Esq., owner of the Skerry Lighthouse off the north coast of Anglesey, a property from which he derives a large income.' In 1840 Lewis says 'Cilwendeg the seat of Morgan Jones Esquire, is an elegant mansion erected within the last fifty years by the uncle of the present proprietor, ornamental with a handsome receding portico in good taste, and occupies the center of an extensive demesne beautifully laid out in plantations and pleasure grounds to which are entrances to two handsome lodges, recently added by the present proprietor.' A photograph of the mansion was taken in 1871 by Allen. It was advertised for sale in 1931...'a handsome modern mansion' of three stories...on the ground floor was hall, inner hall, double drawing room, didning room, morning room, library, billiard room, two conservatories, domestic offices. The first floor had twelve bed and dressing rooms and offices. The second floor had six rooms. It is now used as an old people's home...no trace of the earlier residence. Regards, Elaine.

There may be newish listers who are not aware of the South/West Wales Lookup Exchange, or what it is. Old hands please bear with me. The concept is simple, volunteers [listers like you] own /have access to resource material and are prepared to do free lookups on that material. Not really an exchange at all, it's all one way ! Each LE entry has the volunteer's email address noted next to it, you send your query to that address as per the onsite instructions. There are separate county pages for CMN, CGN, PEM & GLA. Each county page has sections for Parish records, censuses, Memorial Inscriptions, Other Sources, and Books. And links to the relevant FHS and Genuki sites. There is also the All Wales page which covers items not easily allocated to a single county page. Not to forget the One Name Database which as it implies contains material relating to particular surnames. You should check this one out. Underpinning all this is my Help Page which contains general information, advice and links to more of the same as well as details of the ongoing book Indexing Project and links to the "Not everyone knows this.." sites. I would ask you all to consider what material you have and check to see whether it is on the relevant page already, and if not, to offer it for lookups. Volunteering in this way is a most enjoyable aspect of net genealogy, give it a try if you don't already. If you do, then my sincere thanks. Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html

Fwd for Marge who was not a subscriber when that arrived at rootsweb. Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marge Wilcox" <mwilcox@ismi.net> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 5:51 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} SHANER > Hi: > > My long-standing brickwall is Jacob/John Jacob SHANER. Someone in the > family said the Shaners were of Welch origin. Up until now, I have assumed > they were of German extraction. > > Does the surname SHANER ring any bells? > > Marge Wilcox, Brighton, MI > Rootsweb Sponsor Plus > >

Since I have just spent some time "tidying up" the separate index online pages it seems as good a time as any to summarise for you the state of play with the book Indexing Project which has been going for nearly 2 years now. There are 68 completed indexes and 14 still being done. The breakdown is [ C=complete, U=unfinished] GLA ; C 36, U 6 CGN; C10, U 5 CMN; C 13, U 1 PEM ; C 3, U 0 Wales: C 6, U 2 The detailed list is on my Help Page. I would ask anyone who is now *unlikely * to complete any index they have agreed to do to inspect the list today and tell me so I can remove the entry if that is what they would like, with absolutely no grief from me :-). I am personally now an indexing addict and expect to carry on until I run out of books, unlikely to happen, or my eye sight fails completely, much more likely ! I naturally hope that some of you will feel the same way and perhaps agree to produce an index from a book you own or can borrow. Local history type books with lots of personal names are favourite, it is even possible to do un-translated Welsh books with a minimum of familiarity with the language. It isn't totally essential for a book to go on the Lookup Exchange if that is a problem area, there are some there now which aren't. Contact me off line if you are interested and have a possible book in mind, we can then discuss and deal with any copyright concerns you may have. If a book relates to CGN or CMN then I transfer the index itself into the Genuki system [where it will live on for ever presumably], I dare say Pem will do likewise when a new co-ordinator takes it over from Brian Randell, and GLA might if I can persuade Phil Mustoe to spend his limited available time making the required switches. I would like to take the opportunity to thank everyone who has taken part in this most successful project run between the Dyfed and Glamorgan lists. And any who are still beavering quietly away out there ! Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html