Hi I am subscribing to this list to try to help someone out. I am trying to locate a Susan Lewis who was born in the mid 1960's in the Newport area. She is last believed to be living near Newport (I am prepared to be corrected on this if you know differently) abt 5-6 years ago where she was believed to be married with at least one child. I have tried checking the marriage indexes at my local library to try to find her married name and try to find her using B.T records under her married name, but a) found to many possible names to search for the years in which it was possible for her to have married. b) the GRO index at my local library only goes up to 1992 so it is possible that I wouldn't have found her doing it this way anyway. Did you got to school with her? Do you know a Susan who fits this description but not know her maiden name? I would be grateful for any info on Susan. If anyone knows of Susan Lewis/ ? and can confirm other details that I have to make sure it is the same one, could they please let me know and I will give more of an explanation as to why I am asking. Yours Rob Eyre.

I'd like to start the year off with a reminder of what the Lookup Exchange is all about. The concept is simple, volunteers [listers like you] own /have access to resource material and are prepared to do free lookups on that material. Each LE entry has the volunteer's email address noted next to it, you send your query to that address as per the onsite instructions. There are separate county pages for CMN, CGN, PEM & GLA. Each county page has sections for Parish records, censuses, Memorial Inscriptions, Other Sources, and Books. And links to the relevant FHS and Genuki sites. There is also the All Wales page which covers items not easily allocated to a single county page. Not to forget the One Name Database which as it implies contains material relating to particular surnames. You should check this one out. Underpinning all this is my Help Page which contains general information, advice and links to more of the same as well as details of book Indexing and links to the "Not everyone knows this.." sites. I would ask you all to consider what material you have and check to see whether it is on the relevant page already, and if not, to offer it for lookups. Volunteering in this way is a most enjoyable aspect of net genealogy, give it a try if you don't already. If you do, then my sincere thanks. Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html

My husband's gt-grandfather had been a smack owner in Devon but moved to Milford Haven in Pembrokeshire when he was in his 40s about 1904 and became a publican. All his children married into Welsh families. Would any historic event of that era have caused him to move to Wales or would it simply be that he liked the look of the place as I heard that fishermen used to regularly ply between Devon and Wales. Is this true? If someone did move from Devon to Pembs would they have been likely to have done it by road or by sea? Valerie (Sydney Australia)

Annette, I recommend you contact Richard Rose, whose magnum opus entitled "Pembroke People" (ISBN 0-9535542-0-1) is coming out next week: your ancestor may be in it. Richard is at Rrose@OtterquillBooks.com > From: "Annette.Musker" <amusker@lineone.net> > Does anyone know whether records were kept of ships constructed in Pembroke > Dock in the middle years of the 19th century? It looks as though my > ancestor, who was a journeyman shipwright, must have worked in Pembroke for > a while and there met his wife. They then returned to Liverpool to marry. > Their son, Henry James Musker, was to be found living with his grandmother > in Pembroke Dock by 1881, so I assume that the father died and the mother > returned home to live. > > What I'd like to know is whether there's any way of finding out what ships > were being constructed c. 1858-60, so that I can try to work out my gtgt > grandfather's movements. Regards Glyn Hatherall Ealing, London UK hatherall@btinternet.com scarrott@one-name.org ----------

Hi Valerie, Happy New Year to you! I should imagine that it depended what side of Devon they resided on in the first place and whether they owned a boat or not. If they lived on the north coast then it was a simple matter of sailing (literally) over to Wales, Pembrokeshire being a regular trading post for such boats as the Kathleen & May (now preserved) which I remember still in use in the late 1950's and possibly 1960! Yes it is true!!! However, if they lived on the south coast then they had to take the 'long' route down to Lands End and then up across the widest part of the St George's Channel by boat. If they travelled by train then they would have probably used the Great Western up to Bristol thence across to Cardiff (through the Severn Tunnel) and then down the South Wales main line all stops to Neyland, Milford, Pembroke Dock and Cardigan. I have left out Fishguard for the main line to that place did not open until 1908 although there was the little 'North Pembrokeshire & Fishguard Railway which ran from Clynderwen up through Maenclochog to Letterston and Fishguard. If they travelled by road then they would take a considerable longer period to get to Wales via Gloucester! Regards, Graham Davies > -----Original Message----- > From: Valerie Wotton [SMTP:wottons@intercoast.com.au] > Sent: 09 January 2001 07:25 > To: WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] England to Wales? > > My husband's gt-grandfather had been a smack owner in Devon but moved to > Milford Haven in Pembrokeshire when he was in his 40s about 1904 and > became a publican. All his children married into Welsh families. Would > any historic event of that era have caused him to move to Wales or would > it simply be that he liked the look of the place as I heard that fishermen > used to regularly ply between Devon and Wales. Is this true? If someone > did move from Devon to Pembs would they have been likely to have done it > by road or by sea? > Valerie > (Sydney Australia) > >

This is the list for the H M Dockyard Pembroke Dock -- dates are of launch Doris, 32 Guns 25th March 1857 Melpomene, 50 guns 8 Aug 1857 Gannet, 11 guns, 20 Dec 1857 Orlando, 50 guns, screw frigate, 12 June 1858 Windsor castle, 116 guns, screw, 16 april 1859 Revenge, 90 guns, screw, 16 April 1859, Greyhound, 16 guns, screw, 15 june 1859, Immortalite, 50 guns, screw, 25 Oct 1859, Espoir, 5 guns, screw, 7 jan 1860 Howe, 121 guns, screw, 7 mar 1860, Pelican 17 guns, screw, 19th July 1860 Nimble, 5 guns, screw, 15 jSept, 1860 Pandora, 5 guns, screw, 7 Feb 1861, Defiance, 91 guns, screw, 27 mar 1861, Aurora, 50 guns, screw, 22 june 1861, Perseus, 6 guns,screw, 21 aug 1861, Shearwater, 4 guns, screw, 17 Oct 1861 There was also small shipbuilding firms dotted arround the area including one at Front St but the major employer was the Dockyard. Hope this is of help Basil <A HREF="www.geocities.com/bashughes">Bashughes Homepage</A>

Does anyone know whether records were kept of ships constructed in Pembroke Dock in the middle years of the 19th century? It looks as though my ancestor, who was a journeyman shipwright, must have worked in Pembroke for a while and there met his wife. They then returned to Liverpool to marry. Their son, Henry James Musker, was to be found living with his grandmother in Pembroke Dock by 1881, so I assume that the father died and the mother returned home to live. What I'd like to know is whether there's any way of finding out what ships were being constructed c. 1858-60, so that I can try to work out my gtgt grandfather's movements. Cheers Annette

Good evening all, I first posted this last year but have still not been able to establish any firm connections. Perhaps there is a new reader that might have the all important clue. My great, great grandmother Elizabeth DUGGAN was b.c.1807 St. Twynnells, and somewhat later was a school teacher and nurse. By the 1851 census she was a widower in Monkton, Pemb. I am tying to connect her late spouse to the following known details which were kindly supplied to me by Bill Griffith. This shows a DUGGAN tree with the latest family having 8 little Duggans. They are William b29/7/1764, Elizabeth b.21/8/1766, Richard b.18/9/1768, Henry b.Oct 1769 d.Oct.1771, Samuel, b.30/6/1771, Anne b.25/7/1773, Henry b.15/10/1775 and Richard b.27/4/1777. Most if not all were born in the Stackpole district. This is only a possible tree but any help here or down other avenues will be gratefully received. John Richards. (London UK) Searching RICHARDS & DUGGAN (Pembs) RICHARDS, WIFFEN, DAY (London & Middx.) WIFFEN & NORRIS (Stock, Essex) DAY (North Surrey) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/00

A Very Happy, if belated, New Year. It is a few months since I last posted my interests and I hope there is some new blood out there to whom this might ring a bell or strike a chord seems more appropriate All my descendants appear to stem from the southern part of Pembrokeshire - Monkton, St Twynnells, Stackpole generally - and to date I can see no association with Cornwall or across the pond. Any connection with the following siblings is awaited with keen anticipation:- Joseph RICHARDS b.1793 m. 1821 to Elizabeth ? b.1790 # Henry RICHARDS b.1801 m. Jane ? b.1808 James RICHARDS b.1802 m. 7/1/1828 to Jane GRIFFITHS Thomas RICHARDS b.1804 m. Hannah ? ## William RICHARDS b.1808 m. 1834 to Abra ? ### Mary RICHARDS b.1810 m. 1834 to William DAVIS Jane RICHARDS b. 1818 Elizabeth RICHARDS b. 1819 m. 26/3/1850 to William GRIFFITHS Matha RICHARDS b. 1820 m. 13/11/1847 to Thomas SMITH John RICHARDS b.1821 m. Jane ? #### # Joseph & Elizabeth had Thomas b.24/2/1822, Francis b.28/7/1824 & who m. 29/9/1846 Matha Lloyd. Martin b. 28/12/1828 d.24/12/1855. John b.15/4/1831 & who m. Martha ? ## Thomas & Hannah had a son Henry b. 26/8/1834 ### William & Abra had a son Benjamin b.10/3/1835 #### John & Jane had 3 sons, George b. May 1835, John b. 21/2/1835, James b. 7/10/1838 I could go on, no, just kidding. I am working (with enormous "L" plates) on a web site and will advise when it open to scrutiny !!!! John Richards. (London UK) Searching RICHARDS, WIFFEN, DAY (London & Middx.) WIFFEN & NORRIS (Stock, Essex) RICHARDS & DUGGAN (Pembs) DFHS 2715 DAY, (North Surrey) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.225 / Virus Database: 107 - Release Date: 22/12/00

In case anyone was actually considering it , I withdraw my recent request for help with the Rawlins chapel extracts for the Pem Genuki pages. I am already over a quarter of the way through it, only 100 parishes to go, just a case of mind over matter really :-) Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html

This is a plea for help from those listers whose New Year resolutions included something about helping the old and infirm deal with problems :-) I have now taken over the Pem pages of Genuki, as well as those for CGN/CMN which I already looked after, my cup runneth over.......... I have already spent a lot of time on this over the last couple of days, but there is much still to do. I would appreciate some help from anyone who has the Rawlins book on nonconformist chapels, what I need right now is the chapel data extracted and sent to me in batches of , say, 10 parishes at a time. I will be more than happy just to get one such batch from anyone, it all helps. The format is as on the CMN parish pages, here are some below from the Carmarthen parish page to illustrate what is needed. Contributors of such batches will be permanently acknowledged on the Pem Genuki providers page. I won't say no to single parishes either if anyone happens to have them. Please check with me before doing anything too heavy, to avoid duplication, ever the optimist I am :-) ############### Nonconformist Chapels: Penuel (Baptist, 1775) - births (1801-37) PRO RG4/4437, LDS 828110, IGI Tabernacle (Baptist, c1650) - births (1785-1828, 33-37) and burials (1790-1837) PRO RG4/3942 and RG4/4124, LDS 828110, IGI; marriages (1838-68) and burials (1841-67) NLW; other records NLW Mss 746-771B, 817B, 873-4, 19469C, 19470-473C. Bethania (Calvinistic Methodist, 1896) Bethel (Calvinistic Methodist, 1815) - records with those of Water Street Chapel Sion (Calvinistic Methodist, 1849) Water Street (Calvinistic Methodist, bef 1743) - births and baptisms (1806-37); burials (1831-36) PRO RG4/3817, LDS 828111, IGI ######### Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html

Hello All again, Still looking for great-grandpa George CHARLES on census..anywhere from 1871 back to? His widow Ann THOMAS CHARLES found 1881 in Pembroke St Mary, Pembroke along with children Clara, George & William. Where is George? Make my Christmas a happy one. Please look for G-grandpa. Warm Holiday Greetings, Winie in Calif

Jon Thereis a Kingsmoor Common Begelly which is in the adjacent parish to Saundersfoot. It could actually be in S/FOOT as I'm not sure where the boundary runs. David

hi Can anyone advise whereabouts in Saundersfoot the above is? Is it an area? A house on its own? Jon

Ooops...sorry...Margaret was from Little Haven (not Broadhaven). Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: Valerie Wotton <wottons@intercoast.com.au> To: <Tomthechair@aol.com> Cc: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] DAVID OWEN > Hi Tom, > My husband (born Haverfordwest but lived in Milford Haven) descends from > a Margaret Llewellyn Owen from Broadhaven who married George Oliver > (blacksmith from Talbenny). She was George's second wife. I have > Margaret's ancestry somewhere in my muddled filing so if she is on your tree > anywhere let me know and I'll dig out the papers. > Valerie Wotton > (Australia) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Tomthechair@aol.com> > To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 4:29 AM > Subject: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] DAVID OWEN > > > > Hello,listers, > > I am searching for the death and burial of DAVID OWEN,Master Mariner & > > Shipbuilder of ST DOGMAELS,who died about 1859.There are so many DAVID > > OWENS in the GRO death indexes with no ages until 1866that I would have to > buy > > innumerable certificates. > > Anyone help > > Regards, > > Tom > > > > ______________________________ >

Hi Listers Looking for info on Robert BIGINGS or BIGGINS born est 1804 married to Catherine Jones (? on first letter of Surname) with a son George Born c1830 Milford Haven, Pembrokeshire, Wales. any sugestions welcome. Anyone interested in desendants of George BIGINGS or BIGGINS I have alot of info. Thank you

What do the initials AGY stand for? Thanks, Elida in SC

Hello,listers, I am searching for the death and burial of DAVID OWEN,Master Mariner & Shipbuilder of ST DOGMAELS,who died about 1859.There are so many DAVID OWENS in the GRO death indexes with no ages until 1866that I would have to buy innumerable certificates. Anyone help Regards, Tom

I am looking for the ancestors of Charles Warwick Frank Jones who was born, according to his school records, on 2 February 1897 but I don't know where. His father was Francis William Jones. I have found someone of that name , born about 1869, living with his father, William Reece Jones, according to the 1881 census, in the Royal Marine Artillery Barracks in Eastney, Portsmouth.William Reece Jones was born in Haverford West, Pembrokeshire in about 1836. Can anyone confirm that I am on the right lines and/or provide me with any further information

I have been asked to forward the message below to the list, any queries to Ann Coats please. ########## NAVAL DOCKYARDS SOCIETY TOUR Pembroke Dock and Milford Haven, 5, 6, 7 May 2001 This is more ambitious and will be more difficult to organise than our previous tours, but the committee felt that members wanted to see less accessible dockyard sites and it is part of our rôle to facilitate this. We also have a body of knowledgeable members who have already indicated their support for such a tour and contributed significantly to the planning. From past experience, members appreciate trudging through the remains of dockyards and seeing what may be pieced together from the detritus. Pembroke Dock Museum Trust, supported by Pembrokeshire County Council, has the long-term aim of setting up a museum in the Dockyard Chapel. Its Chairman and the Secretary of West Wales Maritime Heritage have undertaken to make us welcome with their specialised knowledge of the sites and artefacts of Pembroke Dock and Milford Haven. A bird’s eye view of Pembroke Dock will be obtained from Barracks Hill. Visible dockyard structures are three building slips, two docks and a graving dock, mast pond, storehouse, dockyard wall, captain superintendent’s house and dockyard chapel. We shall seek permission to get access. In Pembroke Dock Town, we shall visit the Gun Tower, which has a model of the dockyard (c 1855), and take refreshments in the Shipwright PH, a former dockyard worker’s house. At Milford Haven 1860s fortifications and the grid layout of the dockyard town with some original buildings remain. An interesting Museum records the changes. The dockyard site may be viewed, although nothing now remains. Cost: a donation to the Pembroke Museum societies, plus £2 to cover administration, plus cost of entry to museums. It would also be pleasant to book a modest meal and drink so that we can meet Pembrokeshire members on the Saturday evening. Please contact the Secretary as soon as possible for further details if you are interested. Contact Dr Ann V Coats, Secretary, Naval Dockyards Society, 44, Lindley Avenue Southsea, PO4 9NU, telephone/fax 023 92863799, email ann@dockyards.conx.co.uk ............................................................................ ........................... I wish to participate in the Naval Dockyards Society Tour Pembroke Dock and Milford Haven, 5, 6, 7 May 2001 Please send me details Name........................................................................ ...................................................... Address..................................................................... ........................................................ ............................................................................ ............................................................. Telephone............................................................email.. .................................................. ############### Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html