Fwd for Hazel. Hi Hazel, the list address for messages is WLS-Pembrokeshire-L@rootsweb.com Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "trev-hazel" <trev-hazel@supanet.com> To: <wls-pembrokeshire-l-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:10 PM Subject: Interests > Can anyone visiting HRO help me with a look up please? > > In exchange for same in Midlands area with access to Birmingham, Worcs and Glos RO's. > > BOWEN marriage of Rebekah Bowen and John Bowen > > May 1819 at Clarbeston > > Foot and Mouth has called of our holiday to the area and can't now visit the Records Office > > Thank yuo > > Hazel > >

Fwd for Keith who has used the wrong list address. Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith R. Wood" <31bch@home.com> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 4:41 AM Subject: Richard WARLOW > Hello list: > > I was wondering if someone might help me find birth details for the > above. He is my GGgrand father born c. 1837 in Milford Haven, > Pembrokeshire. I first found him listed in the 1881 census in Portsea, > Hampshire with an age of 44. His 1873 marriage details from St. Marys, > Carisbrooke, I.O.W. show his age at 30(I think he fudged a bit.) and his > father's name was William, a mason by trade. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. > > All the best: > > Keith, > B.C., Canada. > >

John: THANK YOU! You've given me lots to go on. But a few questions if you can bear with me: "the Rawlin's book" - which is that? "Dyfed FHs " - what does this mean? "the Streetmaps website" - do you have the url? "Dyfed List" - do you have the address? this area being in Carmarthenshire - does that mean this Pembrokeshire list won't be helpful to me, or are they so close that they overlap with info? Now I know that these questions reveal my infancy in Wales research. But I hope to learn quickly and not be a great bother. Sally > Hi Sally, > > Rhydwilym is the name of a chapel (and the area immediately round it) in > the parish of Llandysilio, Carmarthenshire. It certainly cannot in any > way be described as a town - not even a very small town! > > The chapel is at grid reference SN114248. It is located about 6 miles > north of the town of Narberth (Pembrokeshire). > > Go to the Streetmaps website, select "Landranger grid" and type SN114248 > into the search field. A detailed map will be displayed centred on the > chosen coordinates. Rhydwilym Chapel is not identified by name, but is > marked by a small black cross " + ". > > I believe Robert Hemphil, a regular Dyfed List contributer, has > researched this area quite extensively. Unfortunately, I don't have a > note of his e-mail address. > > Best wishes, > > John

Can anyone help me with some information about GREAT HONEYBOROUGH, LLANSTADWELL? I think it may be a farm or something. It's where my great grandfather was born (James Herbert Cummings b 22.8.1862), and his parents died (James Cummings d 27.11.1895 and Martha Howell d 6.2.1874) There are also strong links with Cosheston Chemical Works and Blackpool Mill via Martha - anyone also interested in these? This is my first try on this website - I've been really interested to read previous exchanges, and so am hopeful of a response.

Sally Steele <sally.steele@ashland.k12.or.us> wrote: Does anyone know the location for a town (VERY small I understand) of Rhydwilym? This is listed as the town of origin for my ancestor who came to the U.S. in 1711, and for the birthplace of his father in 1638, although spelled Riddillyn on histories here. ================ Hi Sally, Rhydwilym is the name of a chapel (and the area immediately round it) in the parish of Llandysilio, Carmarthenshire. It certainly cannot in any way be described as a town - not even a very small town! The chapel is at grid reference SN114248. It is located about 6 miles north of the town of Narberth (Pembrokeshire). Go to the Streetmaps website, select "Landranger grid" and type SN114248 into the search field. A detailed map will be displayed centred on the chosen coordinates. Rhydwilym Chapel is not identified by name, but is marked by a small black cross " + ". I believe Robert Hemphil, a regular Dyfed List contributer, has researched this area quite extensively. Unfortunately, I don't have a note of his e-mail address. Best wishes, John ---------------------------------- John Ball, South Wales, UK E-mail: wfha@clara.co.uk Welsh Family History Archive: http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally Steele" <sally.steele@ashland.k12.or.us> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:03 PM Subject: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] location Does anyone know the location for a town (VERY small I understand) of Rhydwilym? This is listed as the town of origin for my ancestor who came to the U.S. in 1711, and for the birthplace of his father in 1638, although spelled Riddillyn on histories here. Sally --- This message is certified virus-free by AVG Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 07/03/2001

Fwd for Glyn whose address appears not to be subbed. The book is listed on the Lookup Exchange, and on the Pem Genuki page. As list administrator I have no objection in this instance to a one off message from the author which I assume will describe the book in detail, as well as explain how it can be purchased :-) Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glyn Hatherall" <glyn@hatherall.org.uk> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 12:12 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Richard Rose: 'Pembroke People' > Richard Rose's 'Pembroke People' (covering the period c. 1790-1857) is not > cheap but it's massive and magnificent. He has done an amazing service to > Pemb genealogy and deserves support. > > There is understandable sensitivity about using rootsweb lists for > advertising purposes - but this is an exceptional publication which everyone > on this list would surely want to know more about. How would our List > Manager, I wonder, view a posting by the author to the list? > > Glyn Hatherall > Ealing, London UK > glyn@hatherall.org.uk > scarrott@one-name.org > > > > Elaine: > > Can you tell me more about this publication? Would it be available on > > interlibrary loan? What eras are covered? > > And are you willing to do lookups? > > Sally > > > >

Does anyone know the location for a town (VERY small I understand) of Rhydwilym? This is listed as the town of origin for my ancestor who came to the U.S. in 1711, and for the birthplace of his father in 1638, although spelled Riddillyn on histories here. Sally

Dear Sally, Yes, I do lookups...just sent you Gareth's Help Page by electronic mail. You'll find this one under Pembrokeshire. Remember in this book that people and their descendants are by occupation...can't go looking for DAVIES through the entire tome without some sort of reference. "Pembroke People" by Mr. Richard Rose was just published by Otterquill Books. As a Subscriber received my copy a couple weeks ago. The price is 65 pounds plus airmail postage fees. Don't know if any library has it yet. If you want to order from Mr. Rose, let me know...will send you the information. Regards, Elaine.

A few members of the lists above have asked me whether my unsubscribing from the lists are temporary. Unfortunately, a 'works directive' is forcing all employees to remove themselves from any mailing lists that they are subscribers of unless it is company approved. In view of this, I have unsubscribed from the Honeywell system. However, the good news is:- I have always maintained a subscription via my home e-mail address which is included in the cc section above. I have explained this to Gareth and I shall also remain a volunteer member for the Pembrokeshire Look Up Exchange via that address. Regards and thanks to all those sending me messages. This will be my last e-mail from this address! Regards, Graham Davies Senior Technical Engineer (Systems), Area Upgrade Co-Ordinator, Honeywell Control Systems Limited, Aberdeen, Direct Line Dialing 01224 805024 Fax 01224 805080 e-mail: <graham.davies@honeywell.com>

Elaine: Can you tell me more about this publication? Would it be available on interlibrary loan?What eras are covered? And are you willing to do lookups? Sally

Regards, Graham Davies Senior Technical Engineer (Systems), Area Upgrade Co-Ordinator, Honeywell Control Systems Limited, Aberdeen, Direct Line Dialing 01224 805024 Fax 01224 805080 e-mail: <graham.davies@honeywell.com>

Hi, I had a great uncle by marriage named Thomas WILLIAMS in Northumberland Co., PA. a Welshman, who probably emigrated about that time-frame. His wife was Gertrude POWELL, born in PA to a mother born in Pembrokeshire. The mother was Hannah PARSELL, married to a John POWELL - they were from St. Issell's parish. Elida in South Carolina, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally Walton" <ncwalt@dnet.net> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] PRIEST > Hi. My ggg-grandfather was William Thomas b. S Wales. He had a daughter, > Margaret Thomas b.1829 who married in 1849 Thomas Williams b. 1829. > They came to the US to PA <1857-61> Does anyone have a connection? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dr. Ray Morris <ray.morris@ntlworld.com> > To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 4:31 AM > Subject: Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] PRIEST > > > > I'm particularly interested in the parish of St Issells and would be > willing > > to act as a focal point for those who have bits and pieces about the > > district. Any tit bits, photos, nme lists etc etc etc would be most > welcome > > which then could be accessed by anyone. Any offers? > > > > Of especial interest would be anything about the Hean Castle Hotel > > (previously the Picton Castle Hotel) and its occupants which is of > interest > > to me and to my new-found second cousin in South Africa. Our grandmothers > > were sisters being daughters of William THOMAS innkeeper of the Hean > Castle. > > > > Ray > > > > Researching MORRIS and BRACE (Saundersfoot), ROBLIN (Jeffreston) > > > > >

--WebTV-Mail-18465-3438 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit --WebTV-Mail-18465-3438 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQOEtuurAlaEYOThcgqStolq/XX8AIUMXYZ6XmTHOmpAWH5tutFWe2sINE= From: eebarsosky@webtv.net (elaine barsosky) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:14:38 -0500 (EST) To: john@gtwest.freeserve.co.uk (john richards) Subject: Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Major Francis Jones, Message-ID: <3038-3AAC310E-3144@storefull-143.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "john richards" <john@gtwest.freeserve.co.uk>'s message of Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:38:54 -0000 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary=WebTV-Mail-18846-1626 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) --WebTV-Mail-18846-1626 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Dear John, I believe that we have exchanged information before. The Major's entry for Orielton, Hundleton, includes a sketch of the mansion...most imposing. He says it was formerly in St. Nicholas, Monkton parish. It was in possession of the Wyrriotts and their descendants for 750 years. One of the descendants is the former husband of Princess Anne...Captain Mark Phillips. It was sold in 1857 to Mark Anthony Saurin who was High Sheriff in 1867. A. G. Gaddum, High Sheriff, owned it in 1943. Today it's a field centre. I've looked in Mr. Richard Rose's recently published "Pembroke People" for you. These names are by occupation. Shown as a Mason is William DUGGAN, h. Dianah (sic) _____. Children: James bapt. at St. Mary's 28.3.1824. Ann DUGGAN m. John Matthew, Coedcanless, (L) at St Michael's 30.8.1807. She was probably a relation of William Duggan, Carpenter, William DUGGAN, h. Elizabeth (Hill). William Duggan, Joiner, m. Elizabeth Hill (L) at St. Michael's 30.1.1777. William DUGGAN, h. Jane (Parry). William Duggan, St Michael's, m. Jane Parry (L) at Carew on 15.5.1780. Witnesses, John John, Thomas Parry. Children: Jane buried at St Michael's 23. [?28] 1.1782, Mary bapt. 23.9.1788 (and presumably died) Mary born 1790 and Martha born 1793 bapt. at St. Mary's 1.7.1797. Wiliam DUGGAN, St Mary's, Burgess, 12.1.1795. Witness, wedding, John Matthews, Ann Duggan, St Michael's, 30.8.1807. William Duggan, Green, buried at St Michael's 16.1.1814 aged 77. In the 1817 vestry accounts, a Jane Duggan received clothing costing 6s 11d. Jane Duggan, Monkton, was buried at St Michael's 17.1.1831 aged 80. Benjamin DUGGAN, h. Mary (Howell). Benjamin DUGAN, X, m. Mary Howell, X, at St Mary's on 9.11.1766. Children [?, manuscript defective] bapt. at St Mary's 28.5.1769, Elizabeth 13.4.1773. James DUGGAN, Green, buried at Monkton 10.11.1824 aged 20. John DUGGAN, Witness, wedding Thomas Davies, Sarah Cockren, widow of Michael Cockren, Naval Officers and Men, 1.4.1820. John DUGGAN, St Mary's, Jury Service: Petty Juror Autumn Great Sessions, 1822. John DUGGAN. The father of one of Elizabeth Thomas's bastard children. Martha DUGGAN. Perhaps the dau. of William and Jane Duggan, born 1793 and bapt. at St Mary's 1.7.1797. Witness: wedding, Joseph Howells, probably Labourers, Martha Peter, 23.3.1817, Thomas Rowlands, Anne Brown 5.4.1818. Samuel DUGGAN buried at St Michael's 8.11.1814 aged 43. Thomas DUGGAN, Eastend, buried at St Michael's 5.6.1817 aged 75. Kind regards, Elaine. --WebTV-Mail-18846-1626 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-101-6.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.40) by storefull-147.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-101-6.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id EFD8B17C; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:43:02 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: eebarsosky@webtv.net Received: from cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.174]) by smtpin-101-6.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id A4675157 for <eebarsosky@webtv.net>; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from modem-101.pebble-butterfly.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.49.101] helo=win98) by cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14cEV4-00085Y-00; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:39:43 +0000 Message-ID: <008f01c0aa7c$38039780$6531893e@win98> From: "john richards" <john@gtwest.freeserve.co.uk> To: "elaine barsosky" <eebarsosky@webtv.net>, <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> References: <17385-3AA98674-859@storefull-144.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Major Francis Jones, Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:38:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Hi Elaine My RICHARDS have strong connections with Orielton Mill and my Grandfather, John Duggan, may well have been born there. (01/04/1853 Monkton according to 1861 census). Later listed as miller & mason. His mother, grandmother and sister were all schoolteachers, possibly or probably locally? Is there anything in the records of Orielton House you think could be of interest to me? Your help is much appreciated. John Richards. (London UK) Searching RICHARDS, WIFFEN, DAY (London & Middx.) WIFFEN & NORRIS (Stock, Essex) RICHARDS & DUGGAN (Pembs) DFHS 2715 ----- Original Message ----- From: "elaine barsosky" <eebarsosky@webtv.net> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 1:42 AM Subject: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Major Francis Jones, > Hi Sally, > > Sorry...Major Francis Jones wrote "Historic Houses Of Pembrokeshire and > Their Families" (yellow book), "Historic Carmarthenshire Homes and Their > Families" (red book), and "Historic Cardiganshire Homes and Their > Families" (blue book). I'm on Gareth's help page for lookups from all > the above, plus others. > > Regards, Elaine. > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.228 / Virus Database: 109 - Release Date: 17/01/01 --WebTV-Mail-18846-1626-- --WebTV-Mail-18465-3438--

Hi. My ggg-grandfather was William Thomas b. S Wales. He had a daughter, Margaret Thomas b.1829 who married in 1849 Thomas Williams b. 1829. They came to the US to PA <1857-61> Does anyone have a connection? ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Ray Morris <ray.morris@ntlworld.com> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 4:31 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] PRIEST > I'm particularly interested in the parish of St Issells and would be willing > to act as a focal point for those who have bits and pieces about the > district. Any tit bits, photos, nme lists etc etc etc would be most welcome > which then could be accessed by anyone. Any offers? > > Of especial interest would be anything about the Hean Castle Hotel > (previously the Picton Castle Hotel) and its occupants which is of interest > to me and to my new-found second cousin in South Africa. Our grandmothers > were sisters being daughters of William THOMAS innkeeper of the Hean Castle. > > Ray > > Researching MORRIS and BRACE (Saundersfoot), ROBLIN (Jeffreston) > >

Hi Elaine My RICHARDS have strong connections with Orielton Mill and my Grandfather, John Duggan, may well have been born there. (01/04/1853 Monkton according to 1861 census). Later listed as miller & mason. His mother, grandmother and sister were all schoolteachers, possibly or probably locally? Is there anything in the records of Orielton House you think could be of interest to me? Your help is much appreciated. John Richards. (London UK) Searching RICHARDS, WIFFEN, DAY (London & Middx.) WIFFEN & NORRIS (Stock, Essex) RICHARDS & DUGGAN (Pembs) DFHS 2715 ----- Original Message ----- From: "elaine barsosky" <eebarsosky@webtv.net> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 1:42 AM Subject: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Major Francis Jones, > Hi Sally, > > Sorry...Major Francis Jones wrote "Historic Houses Of Pembrokeshire and > Their Families" (yellow book), "Historic Carmarthenshire Homes and Their > Families" (red book), and "Historic Cardiganshire Homes and Their > Families" (blue book). I'm on Gareth's help page for lookups from all > the above, plus others. > > Regards, Elaine. > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.228 / Virus Database: 109 - Release Date: 17/01/01

Hi could SKS look up an Evans family for me on the 1861 census, information I have Martha Evan's aged 43 henry Evan's aged 14 Margaret Evan's 14, I do believe they lived in lower town fishguard, if possible could 1851 census be searched, thanks Maggie

Fwd for Hazel on trev-hazel@supanet.com who has used the wrong list address Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "trev-hazel" <trev-hazel@supanet.com> To: <wls-pembrokeshire-l-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 3:58 PM Subject: Interests > As a new subscriber may I please post my interests - just the one! > > BOWEN > > My 2. gtgrandmother Rebekah BOWEN of Clarbeston married John BOWEN of Llanboidy in Clarbeston and they lived and brought up their children in Dale. > > Two of their daughters married men from the Royal Artillery, one, Amelia ended up at Melton Mowbray and the other, my GtGran, Ellen (born 1838/9) married James QUEEN. We are trying to find her death and what happened to her son James Henry QUEEN > > Hazel > >

I'm particularly interested in the parish of St Issells and would be willing to act as a focal point for those who have bits and pieces about the district. Any tit bits, photos, nme lists etc etc etc would be most welcome which then could be accessed by anyone. Any offers? Of especial interest would be anything about the Hean Castle Hotel (previously the Picton Castle Hotel) and its occupants which is of interest to me and to my new-found second cousin in South Africa. Our grandmothers were sisters being daughters of William THOMAS innkeeper of the Hean Castle. Ray Researching MORRIS and BRACE (Saundersfoot), ROBLIN (Jeffreston)

Hello Rosalie Lovely to hear from you. I'll give you a "potted" family history of my Wathens. My grandmother was a Wathen (the last of that name in our line). She was actually born in Staffordshire where her family owned potteries.(She also married "down"& moved to South Wales). Her grandfather (Obadiah Paul Wathen) moved to Staffs. from the Cotswolds on his marriage to Esther Venables in 1806. The Wathens in Glos. were a family of long-standing who owned wool weaving mills way back to at least the early 1600s. The information at the church at Robeston Wathen leads us to believe that they had moved from that area to Glos because of their connection with the wool trade. However, I have yet to find a connection. As its back in the 1500s and records in Wales at that time are almost non-existent its unlikely that I shall ever find it. It seems probable that the Wathens in West Wales are descended from the original family, and certainly the Bristol Wathen are connected to my line somewhere. Sir Charles Wathen, my grandmother's uncle, was 6 times Lord Mayor of Bristol & was part-owner of the company Bristol Uniforms who are still in business. I have heard that the firm is still in the family, although the name has changed through marriage. As you are 'on the spot' why not get in touch with someone there & see what you can discover. Its one of those things I have been meaning to do but haven't yet found the time. I was hoping they had email so I could just whip off a query, but haven't found a website for them. If you get any further information I would love to hear from you. Its encouraging to at last get a reply through the list. I was beginning to wonder if it was worth continuing with it. Say hello & thank you to your mum for me. Cheerio, Peggy Beckett, Melbourne, Australia

Now there's another reason, we miss out on the pearls from ' old hands' like you, Maureen :-) Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. Lookup Exchange http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/lookup.html Help Page http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <MJen512444@aol.com> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 8:40 PM Subject: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Re: WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-D Digest V01 #30 > Hello Gareth, > > Point taken re private replies. I must say that I agree with you, even > though I have been guilty of giving private replies myself. > > Maureen Jenkins > >