Please help all listers. How do I down load a PDF file into ordinary text. - Lisa

Hello out there i am interested in finding what Regiments manned the Blockhouse at Angle? i am looking for a birth date of James Robert Brown born 1880 in Winlaton Newcastle but moved to Angle and served as a master gunner at the blockhouse from about 1900 for approx 25 years he was recalled during WW2 to act again as a gunner? he also married a local girl named Florence Vaughn i can find no record of the marriage nor his DOB. If i can find the regiment i can do a millitary records search. Thanks Alex Swadling Perth Australia (bit more than a bike ride away)

I seem to recall from many years ago when I was at school in Milford Haven, that a book on the history of the various fortifications of the Haven had been published. No doubt this would have had a lot of information about the Angle blockhouse. Unfortunately I can't recall the title although I suspect that the Pembs RO or the County Library would have a copy. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: ALEX <swadlingesq@bigpond.com> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 5:02 AM Subject: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] The Blockhouse Angle > Hello out there i am interested in finding what Regiments manned the Blockhouse at Angle? i am looking for a birth date of James Robert Brown born 1880 in Winlaton Newcastle but moved to Angle and served as a master gunner at the blockhouse from about 1900 for approx 25 years he was recalled during WW2 to act again as a gunner? he also married a local girl named Florence Vaughn i can find no record of the marriage nor his DOB. If i can find the regiment i can do a millitary records search. > > > Thanks Alex Swadling Perth Australia (bit more than a bike ride away) > >

Fwd for Ann ############## NAVAL DOCKYARDS SOCIETY TOUR Pembroke Dock and Milford Haven 5-7 May 2001 Pembroke Dock Museum Trust, supported by Pembrokeshire County Council, has the long-term aim of setting up a museum in the Dockyard Chapel. Its Secretary and the Secretary of West Wales Maritime Heritage have undertaken to make us welcome with their specialised knowledge of the sites and artefacts of Pembroke Dock and Milford Haven. A bird’s eye view of Pembroke Dock will be obtained from Barracks Hill. Visible dockyard structures are three building slips, two docks and a graving dock, mast pond, storehouse, dockyard wall, captain superintendent’s house and dockyard chapel. We shall visit many of these buildings. In Pembroke Dock Town, we shall visit the Gun Tower, which has a model of the dockyard (c 1855), and take refreshments in the Shipwright Public House, a former dockyard worker’s house. At Milford Haven 1860s fortifications and the grid layout of the dockyard town with some original buildings remain. An interesting Museum records the changes. The dockyard site may be viewed, although nothing now remains. Saturday 5 May 8 pm Royal Naval Association Club Function Room, 15 Pembroke Street, Pembroke Dock introductory talk & discussion Sunday 6 May Guides David James & John Evans 9 am Pembroke Dockyard Defensible Barracks Hill for bird’s eye view, Pater Church (view from outside only), Pater Battery, West Martello Tower, Guard House, Captain Superintendent’s House, no 1 The Terrace, ex-RAF Hangars, Perimeter Wall, Commercial Row, Melville Street, RMAS Depot, Admiralty Way, White Farm Way, Edgar Morgan Way, Ferry Terminal. 1 pm Lunch The Shipwright Public House Afternoon Martello Gun Tower Museum Monday 7 May Guides David James & John Evans 10 am Milford Haven Museum cost £1.20/60p Lunch at Milford Marina Milford Haven Dock site, Milford Haven Waterway Fortifications (c1860), Hangars for RAF Sunderland flying boats (c 1938), Neyland - panoramic view of Pembroke Dock - Hobbs Point-Carr Jetty via Cleddau Toll Bridge. Finish 4 pm Our hosts David James Secretary West Wales Maritime Heritage, Vice Chairman Pembroke Dock Museum Trust John Evans Secretary Pembroke Dock Museum Trust For a unique opportunity to visit these sites send your names for access to the sites by Friday 4 May 2001. Short talks and answers to questions will be given at each site. Cost: £11 to cover booking & a donation to the Pembroke West Wales Maritime Heritage & Pembroke Dock Museum Trust. Contact Dr Ann V Coats, Secretary, Naval Dockyards Society, 44, Lindley Avenue Southsea, PO4 9NU, telephone/fax 023 92863799, email ann@dockyards.conx.co.uk ............................................................................ .........................……………………………………………... Pembroke Dock and Milford Haven, 5, 6, 7 May 2001 I wish to book. I enclose a cheque (£11) to cover the booking fee & donation, made out to Naval Dockyards Society Name........................................................................ ....................................................………………………………… Address..................................................................... ......................................................………………………………. ............................................................................ ...........................................................……………………………….. Telephone.......................................................email....... ..........................................Date…………………………….. ############################ Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html

Hi could anyone do me an 1851 search for a Thomas family, I am looking for a great great grandfather of mine a Thomas Thomas born fishguard in 1848 . if some kind person could get the spare time I would greatly appreciate it. thanks Maggie

on 25/4/01 11:21 pm, Lisa Burgess at Lisa.Burgess1@btinternet.com wrote: > Hi Listers. I have been watching all concerned and decided to introduce my > self. > I live in Cornwall and have been searching the name BEYNON for my children. In > fact the person I am searching is George BEYNON whom was born at Pembroke Dock > in 1870 and went to sea and came to live in Cornwall where he married a lady > called Eliza Ann Deacon. I don't suppose anyone is related to this person > through cousins or even heard of him. He was a Marine Captain. Yours Lisa Hi Lisa If you are sure that George was born in 1870, then the only one that fits the bill in the 1881 census was living at 5 Bay View, Swansea Lower. John Beynon, head, 49, gardener, born St Twynnels parish, PEM Ann Beynon, wife, 46, born Pwllcrochan parish, PEM Rebecca Beynon, daughter, 18, born Rhoscrowther parish, PEM Mary Ann Beynon, daughter, 16, dressmaker, born Monckton parish, PEM Mary James Beynon, son, 14, page boy, born Monckton parish, PEM George Beynon, son, 11, scholar, born Monckton parish, PEM Albert Charles Beynon, son, 5, born Swansea, GLA Monkton is just south of Pembroke town and has now become part of the modern Borough of Pembroke. Does any of the above fit into what you know? If this is him there will, no doubt, be a few relations here and there! If you think this is him, then I can probably find John in the 1851 and 1841 census indexes. The 1861 and 1871 censuses for Pembrokeshire have not been indexed. Gerry Lewis

Hi Listers. I have been watching all concerned and decided to introduce my self. I live in Cornwall and have been searching the name BEYNON for my children. In fact the person I am searching is George BEYNON whom was born at Pembroke Dock in 1870 and went to sea and came to live in Cornwall where he married a lady called Eliza Ann Deacon. I don't suppose anyone is related to this person through cousins or even heard of him. He was a Marine Captain. Yours Lisa

Hi Listers I am new to this list and would like to post my names interests. MACKAY Elizabeth my g.g.grandmother born in Cardiff MACKAY Mary - sister of the above married PRICE James - Solicitor and J.P. of Haverfordwest their children PRICE Gladys PRICE Mildred PRICE Herbert PRICE James Lieut. R.N. (D.S.C. 1916) Lost with all his crew when his submarine was rammed by a British cruiser 1922. Sorry details are a bit thin but have just found these new names amongst family papers. Would be extremely grateful to hear from anyone else researching this family. Philip and Pat Hale France

>From time to time I am contacted by someone looking for a copy of Richard Colyer's 'The Welsh Cattle Drovers. Well, a net contact of mine received a dealer's catalogue this morning which offers one for sale in mint condition for £28 + p & p. The dealer is Reads, Beehive Cottage, East Stoke, Wareham, BH20 6AF - tel nos. 01929 554971 or 01929 554808. Payment by cheque only (no credit cards accepted). Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html

Given the topicality of nationality and census returns, in the UK at least, I thought I would share with you the extract below which is worth reading word for word for its reflections on Welsh nationality. For those who are not familiar with it, the 'The Soul of a Nation' is on my Help Page under 'Welsh nationality'. http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks3a.html Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ######## A Book of Wales by D M & E M Lloyd 1953. In the authors' introduction to the book is this series of passages which to me anyway says all that needs to be said about the concept of 'Welsh nationality'.. "Included in this book is a translation of one of the most widely known passages by the best loved of modern Welsh writers, the late Sir Owen M Edwardes [ 1858-1920].[The Soul of a Nation] He knew well enough what he meant when he said that Wales had a soul. He was not worried by metaphysical niceties, and neither was he thinking in terms of racial purity. On racialism we can do no better than quote Sir Ifor Williams, doyen of Welsh scholarship today, who once remarked that 'the people of England and of Wales are formed of the same racial ingredients, although not necessarily in the same proportions, but that the same is true of Christmas cake and plum pudding, only that one has been baked and the other boiled ' ! The varying racial proportions probably have some bearing on national temperament, modes of feeling and artistic gifts, but in the main our distinctive national characteristics are the fruits of age-long common experiences, the results of having inhabited the same corner of the earth, the incalculable effects of the natural scene and the affinities born of it, of having spoken a common tongue, created our own institutions, shared the same responsibilities, felt the same community sense, and borne the effects of the same national development. We can still recognise ourselves in the people of Giraldus's Wales of the twelfth century--our faults and our good qualities, though much has changed. The Wales of Giraldus and that of Jack Jones are peopled by the same warm-hearted impulsive folk, often contentious, susceptible to the appeal of oratory, relishers of the finely-turned and bold phrase, and passionately attached to the local community and surroundings. They realise themselves in the interplay of personal relations within the neighbourhood and country to which they feel they belong, and have a deep distrust of any impersonal officialdom, privilege, or remote control. A shrewdness and distrust of vague sentiment are combined with a responsiveness to the appeal of music and clear forcible expression in verse, prose, or in pulpit or platform speech. Here is no 'Celtic twilight', but a love of clarity, brilliance, distinct colours and striking antithesis. These are our prevailing modes." #########

Posting my interests. Does anyone know anything about the following family on the 1841 Census of Hubberston please. Elizabeth Owens Widow 35 James Owens Son 18 app sailmaker William Owens Son 15 app sailmaker Clementine Owens Dau 10 Benjamin Owens Son 8 Alfred Owens Son 2 Any help would be appreciated. Angela

Hello again, I forgot to put the age of Benjamin Nicholas born in Pembroke approx. 1837, Hannah Nicholas nee Andrews baptised in Pyle & Kenfig in 1844. Many thanks again Regards Shirley Layer (Cornwall)

Hello, I am looking for the Nicholas family in Pembroke, in particular for my g grandparents Benjamin Nicholas who married Hannah Andrews in Cardiff on 10 December 1864, his father's/mother's name was Gwen Nicholas on the marriage certificate, Benjamin was a Coal Tipper and living in 30 Tredegar Street, Cardiff and Hannah was a Servant and living in 1 East Terrace, Cardiff. I have the 1871 Census for 36 Clive Street, Road, Cardiff - RG10 5366 F86 pg 6 stating that Benjamin, Hannah and Elizabeth H Nicholas were living there. It states that Benjamin was born in Pembroke. There was another daughter in a Deaf & Dumb School, her name was Rhoda. My grandfather William Henry Watts was also in the D & D School in Cardiff they were approx. 8/9 yrs old. William and Rhoda married in Cardiff in 1902 and had a son who was my father Alfred George WATTS. I hope someone can kindly help me as I have search on the IGI and have come up with nothing so far, I would like to go further back in my ancestry but cannot until I can find Benjamin and his parents. I live in Cornwall so an unable to do searches so far away, I like to visit the records offices of close places, LDS etc but with no luck so far. Any help would be gratefully appreciated. Many thanks and Kind Regards Shirley Layer, Cornwall

Hi all I hope I have the correct list. I am looking for a marriage of William ANTHONY and Esther ? apparently going by the IGI they were married about 1869 NEWPORT, Pembroke. I am unsure of the areas as I left South Wales when I was only 4 years Can someone please help me. Pauline Longwood pauline@omninet.net.au

This isn't a repeat performance of stating the obvious such as not opening attachments and keeping AV protection up to date. Oh no, nothing so mundane :-) I have been giving some thought to what we listers could collectively do to help ourselves, here are two ideas for you to chew on; The first. I know there are many listers who at present receive separate mails who could get on just as well in Digest mode. With this latest virus involving lists, even though not carried on list mail, being in digest would mean that, if you somehow 'caught' a virus such as this latest one, then it would only send its auto response, with virus laden attachment, back to the Rootsweb admin address, and on the list administrator who could then deal with it, and warn the person with the infected computer. I expect you all appreciate by now that with this particular virus it is the actual sending of a message to the list which exposes one to it in the first place. Never posting to the lists is a bit drastic, although.............. The downside is that digest is more inconvenient to use than separate mails in OE. However, with this little trick this shouldn't be as bad as that for many of you who mostly just read mails, and don't regularly respond to them. --Left click once to highlight the digest in the inbox of OE, press Ctrl plus F3 together, maximise the window to see all the messages laid out and scroll away. If you do feel an irresistable urge to reply to a message then note the sender and open the digest normally, and Bob's your uncle! Another downside might be all the previous mails tacked on the end which haven't been properly culled, well, that's down to us collectively too........ We could have a sin bin [food bin?] and banish the main offenders to Jeff's All Wales list as a punishment, does one week there sound long enough ? Second. Not this virus, but the equally devious ones which attack via our address books, the previous norm. Might I suggest that we all switch off the facility for addresses to be auto added to our address books in OE , or whatever, every time we send a mail out. That way address books will be vastly smaller and any auto sending out of mails by a virus will be considerably limited. To just your special friends in fact, think about it............ I just trimmed mine from about 500 names down to c 50, and no, I'm not telling who is left on there :-) If you then can't find someone's email address via View/Sort by 'From' in OE's Deleted items file, then too bad....... Could also of course transfer the complete address list outside of OE before trimming. Could I request that you all delete me from your address books please :-) Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html

I have just put a new Volunteer projects information section on my Help Page, please take a peek for the full details and links. Briefly; There are now three separate ongoing projects which are part of the FreeUKGEN initiative which is aimed at helping make high quality primary [or near primary] records of relevance to UK genealogy freely available online, the emphasis being on free and available; FreeCEN--Census return transcriptions FreeBMD--GRO index transcriptions FreeREG--Parish register transcriptions Volunteers needed on all fronts, " Your country needs you" ! Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html

Please can someone look up the following family. Richard EVANS ..his wife may be Jemmima . but as he married twice i am not sure , an address found with some old photograph is Pen-Y-Wen, Stackpole Court, Stackpole, Pembrokeshire. I know there were at least nine children.. but not sure if all were born before this date 5 Sons..Richard, Herbert, Fred, George, and Griff. 4 Daughters.. Marjorie, Lucy, Edith and Mattie. I would be greatful for any information.. thanks in a

Please can someone look up the following family. Richard EVANS ..his wife may be Jemmima . but as he married twice i am not sure , an address found with some old photograph is Pen-Y-Wen, Stackpole Court, Stackpole, Pembrokeshire. I know there were at least nine children.. but not sure if all were born before this date 5 Sons..Richard, Herbert, Fred, George, and Griff. 4 Daughters.. Marjorie, Lucy, Edith and Mattie. I would be greatful for any information.. thanks in anticipation.. BrynEvans

I have just added to my Help Page a new section containing a collection of links which might be useful if you are searching in UK for that long lost cousin [living] . Based on an article in "Web-user "magazine 5 April 2001. It would be a kindness for you to share with us any other links you might have Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html

on 18/4/01 2:38 pm, lealaa at lealaa@btinternet.com wrote: > Hello, > I have just joined the list and am looking for James Hall, > Father of Lily Hall. Lily was from Milford Haven Pembs. > Lily married a William Collins from Bristol. On the 1881 census they appear in > 7 Russell St Cardiff with a 5 month old son William Collins( my grand father) > I think I am needing the 1851 census which I have but I can't find any thing > can any one help? > Liz Hi Liz Very few HALLs in the Milford area in the 1851 census index and only one James - he ws 50 - a bit old for your father of Lily I think. Do you have any idea when he was born? Gerry Lewis