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    1. Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Meyler
    2. Elida
    3. Please define - "Nonconformist" Thanks, Elida in USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Joycozens@aol.com> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Meyler > Hi Jane > > One of the Meylers listed in Fishguard in the 1841 Census is a David Meyler > occupation "Minister of the Gospel". His daughers were named Eleazar and > Martha and I think he is probably Nonconformist which is possibly why no > Meyler baptisms appear on the IGI fiche or the Dyfed Baptsisms Index > 1813-1837 for Pembrokeshire. > > As you know marriages of Nonconformists prior to 1837 had to take place in a > church which is why the following Meyler marriages, during this period, have > been recorded at Fishguard Parish Church > > 21 Oct 1813 William Harries=Anne Meyler M(inor) by Licence > 3 May 1814 William Harries, Mariner=Margaret Meyler by Licence > 12 Aug 1815 George Griffith, Excise Officer=Elizabeth Meyler by Licence > 12 Nov 1818 John Williams, Mariner=Sophiah (sic) Meyler > The above couple both made their marks > > From"The Parish Churches and Nonconformist Chapel of Wales" by Bert J. > Rawlins the baptisms records for those chapels in the area whose records > survive are shown as appearing on the IGI. However you may wish to check > those registers which survive. Those recorded by the Public Record Office > are on film which can be seen at Pembrokeshire Record Office, Haverfordwest > or the Family Records Centre, Myddleton Place, Islington. If you wish to > have a list of these chapels please let me know off list and I will copy them > out for you. > > Bye for now > Joy > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Gareth's Help Page > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html >

    05/29/2001 08:00:05
    1. Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Meyler
    2. Hi Jane One of the Meylers listed in Fishguard in the 1841 Census is a David Meyler occupation "Minister of the Gospel". His daughers were named Eleazar and Martha and I think he is probably Nonconformist which is possibly why no Meyler baptisms appear on the IGI fiche or the Dyfed Baptsisms Index 1813-1837 for Pembrokeshire. As you know marriages of Nonconformists prior to 1837 had to take place in a church which is why the following Meyler marriages, during this period, have been recorded at Fishguard Parish Church 21 Oct 1813 William Harries=Anne Meyler M(inor) by Licence 3 May 1814 William Harries, Mariner=Margaret Meyler by Licence 12 Aug 1815 George Griffith, Excise Officer=Elizabeth Meyler by Licence 12 Nov 1818 John Williams, Mariner=Sophiah (sic) Meyler The above couple both made their marks From"The Parish Churches and Nonconformist Chapel of Wales" by Bert J. Rawlins the baptisms records for those chapels in the area whose records survive are shown as appearing on the IGI. However you may wish to check those registers which survive. Those recorded by the Public Record Office are on film which can be seen at Pembrokeshire Record Office, Haverfordwest or the Family Records Centre, Myddleton Place, Islington. If you wish to have a list of these chapels please let me know off list and I will copy them out for you. Bye for now Joy

    05/29/2001 03:14:03
    1. [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Re: Dyfed Help Rqd.
    2. Gareth
    3. Fwd for Ann Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Davies Ann@llanfabon.freeserve.co.uk To: WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L-@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 8:16 PM Subject: Dyfed Help Rqd. Dear List From the advice of Gareth, (many thanks for your time), I have taken up the mantle to ask for any help as regards the Family name of DAVIES (such an unusual name I know). My gg grandparents were William and Catherine Davies, according to the 1881 Census they were living or owned a farm called Dolewrygan in the Llandilo / Llandeilo area of CMN, but their roots I believe, lie in Pembrokeshire - Llanfyrnach. William was born abt. 1850 and Catherine, (who, apparently was known as Cati), was born abt. 1847. Catherine had a daughter Ann - who died in 1946 at Tynewydd Glandwr Llanfyrnach. Wm. and Cati had 4 sons, Ezer b. 1881, Caleb b.1882, Stephen b.? and John (known as Jack) b. abt. 1887) Caleb is my link he was my Grandfather, he travelled to the Rhondda Valleys in 1899 and lived in Tonypandy. In 1913 he married Sarah E. Parmee, they had 5 children - three daughters and two sons. My Father and Uncle are the only remaining links I have, and they are both in their 80s. So the legacy ends here. Caleb worked as a coal miner, in the Rhondda, and then went back to Dyfed - living at Llanboidy, Tegryn, Tumble etc., he worked at the Mynydd Mawr Drift Mine and in 1939 the coal dust took his life. He is buried at Llwynyrhwrdd Tegryn Llanfyrnach. The names that have been mentioned by my Father are Login Clynderwen Llanfallteg. Croesffyrdd (apparently near a Garn Quarry) Brynmeurig Waunfawr and Fronlleban. If by chance any of these names places etc., are familiar to anyone on the List, I would appreciate any information PLEASE ! Thanking you for reading this Best Wishes Ann Davies Ann Davies

    05/27/2001 04:49:23
    1. [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Meyler
    2. buttery
    3. Dear Gerry and Friends, Betty Kirkwood let me know that my Margaret meyler who married WM HARRIES on May3rd1814 may be daughter of Wm MEYLER and Dorothy Richard who married in 1796. Is there any chance you could confirm this sometime. There is no hurry. I would also appreciate any advice about finding church records myself. I come to UK in September. Thanks for all your other help, Gerry. Regards, Jane in Canada

    05/26/2001 06:21:26
    1. Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Replying to queries
    2. Gareth
    3. Thanks for that Elida. I suspect the reality is that there are a multitude of reasons for what we do as individuals, and as long as they are conscious and informed decisions, that's fine with me. I'm sure that no 5. is responsible for a good few anyway, I certainly manage to do so regularly but somehow my eyes have trained themselves to subconsciously check the 'To' box before I press send. I think it might help if in the next revamp of OE they changed the order of the Reply/Reply All buttons ! Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elida" <elida@signature.cc> To: "Gareth" <tirbach@clara.co.uk>; <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Replying to queries > Hi Gareth, glad you asked! > > It has surely come to my attention that on some lists in Pennsylvania, USA > and now in Wales there are individuals who prefer to respond "off-list". I > find their actions displeasing. To put it bluntly, I think this is done > because: > > 1. The listmembers fail to realize their private responses fail to go into > the Rootsweb archives, thereby limiting available information to future > researchers. > > 2. These "private responders" are concerned that their contributions, if > made public, will be used in some manner for profit. > > 3. The "private responders" may feel more powerful having their > contributions shared only with a select few. > > 4. There may be some listers who may be too humble and feel their > information would be too burdensome for others to bother with - I find this > to be especially true of the listers in the predominately old coal-mining > regions of Pennsylvania. > > 5. Sometimes a new lister or one not too familiar with their mail program > may hit the "reply" button rather than "reply all". > > Take care, > Elida in drought-stricken South Carolina, USA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gareth" <tirbach@clara.co.uk> > To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:39 PM > Subject: Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Replying to queries > > > > I strongly endorse Gerry's request. > > I am on record as making periodic identical pleas on all the S/W Wales > lists > > I subscribe to, the making of off-list responses seems to be a growing > > trend. > > I'm not even sure I really understand why, perhaps someone could enlighten > > me ? > > On-list ? :-) > > Please, we're not talking rigid rules or replies with 10 pages of 1881 > > census extracts here, just the ordinary run of the mill list traffic. > > And not the dreaded Reply /Reply All button debate either :-) > > > > Gareth > > List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk > > Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html > > Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gerry" <gerry@asterisk.co.uk> > > To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:37 PM > > Subject: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Replying to queries > > > > > > > Hi listers > > > > > > I know that reading through e-mails that don't concern one can be a > trifle > > > boring but can I ask that replies to queries are sent via the list and > not > > > direct to the enquirer. The reason being that those of us who try to > > answer > > > queries then do not waste our time duplicating the effort put in by > > others. > > > > > > Gerry Lewis > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > > > Gareth's Help Page > > > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Dyfed FHS > > http://www.westwales.co.uk/dfhs/dfhs.htm > > > > >

    05/25/2001 10:09:45
    1. [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] What an interesting letter!
    2. buttery
    3. Dear Sue, I found your letter most interesting and thank you for all the information given. Your name also caught my eye as my VIVIAN cousin was looking for the name Mackie in 1881 recently, expecting them in Scotland and finding them in Carmarthenshire!The list of offspring also showed the parents wanderings! I think I know why some replies are off line. I have found that if you hit the reply button for some lists you just get the original writer's name. I usually put in the list name afterwards as I am doing here. I have found American 3rd cousins researching BATH/COLLIER names in Somerset and Glamorgan/MON border have been very helpful...but we still have gaps so I'll try your ideas. Many thanks Jane in Canada

    05/25/2001 04:40:16
    1. [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Another Pem success story !
    2. Gareth
    3. I show below the substance of a message I received from Sue Mackay, a name anyone also on the Glamlist will be familiar with . Apart from telling us about her breakthrough and making very good points about searching list archives and mail subject lines, Sue also gives me the excuse to 'bang the drum' about the 'Not everyone knows this' [NEKT] sections of my Help Page. There is almost 2mb of text material on the NEKT pages, made up of interesting material posted to the lists over the last few years, or what I have extracted from local history books direct. The gateway page is http://home.clara.net/tirbach/HelpPagepearls.html Despite what Sue says, please don't all immediately unsubscribe and use the list archives instead, no listers = no list messages = no archives :-) Thanks for sharing with us Sue ! ############# I am not a subscriber to the Dyfed or Pembrokeshire lists, but I have had considerable success recently in doing some research for cousins in Texas without having to leave my desk. The starting point for this success was an e-mail sent to the Dyfed list by Mary Bryceland in 2000 which Gareth posted on the 'Not Everyone Knows This' section of his Help Page. My cousins are descended from Stephen Langston and Maria Rotch. I am connected to them through another line, but I offered to find out what I could about their Rotch/Langston forebears. There was a well known Quaker whaling family called Rotch in Nantucket, Massachusetts, and family legend said they were connected to this family, yet family papers said that Maria Rotch had been born in Milford Haven, Pembrokeshire, the daughter of Benjamin Rotch and Elizabeth Barker. I typed Rotch and Milford Haven into a search engine, and up came Gareth's NEKT page with a piece about the whaling industry in Milford Haven and the Quakers who came from Nantucket, including a William Rotch. This was the link I needed, which started me off on a fascinating internet search trail. William Rotch turned out to be Benjamin's father and Maria's grandfather, and I was able to tap into a wealth of material on the net about the Rotches from Nantucket. I am very grateful to Gareth for NEKT, but I have since discovered another route which would have achieved the same result. Every message sent to a rootsweb mailing list goes in to the rootsweb archives. If you go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/ and click on Wales, then Dyfed, it will bring up the page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/DYFED.html Scroll down and click on Search the Dyfed Archives, then type in the word Rotch with 2000 ticked and Bingo!! Up comes Mary Bryceland's e-mail about whaling in Pembrokeshire. If you click Browse the Archives you will get a list of all the subject lines, but sadly these are not always what they seem. Do make sure you have the address of the list in your e-mail address book. A lot of listers simply find the last e-mail on their machine that came in from the list and hit the Reply button, without changing the Subject Line. So, for example, someone might get terribly excited while browsing the archives to find one entitled 'Whaling in Pembrokeshire' only to open it and find it said 'Can anyone help me find John Jones?' When you find an e-mail in the Archives you can reply directly to the individual, so you don't actually need to subscribe to the list if you haven't got huge interests in the area. It is therefore possible to search the archives for several counties without having the tremendous volume of e-mail that subscribing to all those lists would entail. When I realised that Stephen Langston and Maria Rotch's daughter had been born in Sheffield, I typed Langston into the Yorkshire rootsweb search. I found an e-mail written two years ago by a lady in Australia who had transcribed the 1840 trade directory for Bridlington and copied the whole thing to the list in 5 e-mails, and there was 'Rev.Stephen Langston, the Promenade Bridlington (also Sheffield)' Until then I had no idea he had ever been near Bridlington, so if I had simply used Browse the Archives I probably wouldn't have opened an e-mail called Bridlington Part 2!!! I have my internet 'Home' page set as http://www.genfair.com/home.htm This is part of the Online Family History Fair, useful in itself, but this particular page has a Google Search Facility and links to the Top 10 Genealogical Sites for UK research. By judicious use of e-mail, Google Advanced Search and the IGI on line I have, in the space of a week, been able to get the Rotch family back to 1704 and the Langstons back to 1765 without really going out of the study.There is a wealth of material out there. Go forth and find it! Sue Mackay Glamorgan FHS sue.mackay@virgin.net Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html

    05/24/2001 05:29:12
    1. Re: [Dyfed] Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Replying to queries
    2. Gareth
    3. Hi Pat The only case that I might have had any doubts about is a), but you cover those by your 'short list message' approach. If everyone did as you do then we wouldn't be having this dialogue . Apart from Gerry's original point, another equally valid one is that if I, for example, give someone duff advice or factual information *off list* then I will be giving up the 'safety net' of another lister either correcting me, or amplifying what I said. In both cases the person who asked the question loses out, possibly 'fatally'. I did wonder if people who respond off-list as a matter of course [ if they exist] are concerned that they may make themselves look silly onlist if they get it wrong, that can happen to the best of us and I would be disappointed if that was a real factor at play. I seem to regularly see thank you type messages where it is quite obvious that not all the indicated replies from listers passed through the list, happens on the Glamlist as well.................. Thanks for the input. Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Powell" <pat@pcubed.demon.co.uk> To: "Gareth" <tirbach@clara.co.uk> Cc: <DYFED-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [Dyfed] Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Replying to queries > Hi Gareth > > I sometimes make "direct" replies if > > a) the reply is full of lots of detail > > or > > b) if my reply is not necessarily directly related to the original query > but has prompted me to ask something > > or > > c) > if someone is getting a bit "depressed" at no success and I send a > "hopefully" encouraging reply with some suggestions of actions to take > to try to make progress. > > Very often - and particularly in case a) I send a short reply to the > list saying that I am replying fully "off-list" which allows anyone else > with an interest to send to me for a copy. > > I hope this seems a reasonable set of actions. > > Finally I must say that most of the replies I send are on-list as > usually that id where reply directs the response but in the case of > your e-mail when "reply" brings up a choice of direct or both I choose > both. > > Cheers > > Pat > > > > In message <00c901c0e471$66c07460$0730b10a@gareth>, Gareth > <tirbach@clara.co.uk> writes > >I strongly endorse Gerry's request. > >I am on record as making periodic identical pleas on all the S/W Wales lists > >I subscribe to, the making of off-list responses seems to be a growing > >trend. > >I'm not even sure I really understand why, perhaps someone could enlighten > >me ? > >On-list ? :-) > >Please, we're not talking rigid rules or replies with 10 pages of 1881 > >census extracts here, just the ordinary run of the mill list traffic. > >And not the dreaded Reply /Reply All button debate either :-) > > > >Gareth > >List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk > >Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html > >Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Gerry" <gerry@asterisk.co.uk> > >To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:37 PM > >Subject: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Replying to queries > > > > > >> Hi listers > >> > >> I know that reading through e-mails that don't concern one can be a trifle > >> boring but can I ask that replies to queries are sent via the list and not > >> direct to the enquirer. The reason being that those of us who try to > >answer > >> queries then do not waste our time duplicating the effort put in by > >others. > >> > >> Gerry Lewis > >> > >> > >> ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> Gareth's Help Page > >> http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >==== DYFED Mailing List ==== > >Genuki CGN http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CGN/ > > > > -- > Pat Powell > >

    05/24/2001 05:04:09
    1. Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Replying to queries
    2. Elida
    3. Hi Gareth, glad you asked! It has surely come to my attention that on some lists in Pennsylvania, USA and now in Wales there are individuals who prefer to respond "off-list". I find their actions displeasing. To put it bluntly, I think this is done because: 1. The listmembers fail to realize their private responses fail to go into the Rootsweb archives, thereby limiting available information to future researchers. 2. These "private responders" are concerned that their contributions, if made public, will be used in some manner for profit. 3. The "private responders" may feel more powerful having their contributions shared only with a select few. 4. There may be some listers who may be too humble and feel their information would be too burdensome for others to bother with - I find this to be especially true of the listers in the predominately old coal-mining regions of Pennsylvania. 5. Sometimes a new lister or one not too familiar with their mail program may hit the "reply" button rather than "reply all". Take care, Elida in drought-stricken South Carolina, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gareth" <tirbach@clara.co.uk> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Replying to queries > I strongly endorse Gerry's request. > I am on record as making periodic identical pleas on all the S/W Wales lists > I subscribe to, the making of off-list responses seems to be a growing > trend. > I'm not even sure I really understand why, perhaps someone could enlighten > me ? > On-list ? :-) > Please, we're not talking rigid rules or replies with 10 pages of 1881 > census extracts here, just the ordinary run of the mill list traffic. > And not the dreaded Reply /Reply All button debate either :-) > > Gareth > List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk > Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html > Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerry" <gerry@asterisk.co.uk> > To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:37 PM > Subject: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Replying to queries > > > > Hi listers > > > > I know that reading through e-mails that don't concern one can be a trifle > > boring but can I ask that replies to queries are sent via the list and not > > direct to the enquirer. The reason being that those of us who try to > answer > > queries then do not waste our time duplicating the effort put in by > others. > > > > Gerry Lewis > > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Gareth's Help Page > > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Dyfed FHS > http://www.westwales.co.uk/dfhs/dfhs.htm >

    05/24/2001 03:32:35
    1. Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Replying to queries
    2. Gareth
    3. I strongly endorse Gerry's request. I am on record as making periodic identical pleas on all the S/W Wales lists I subscribe to, the making of off-list responses seems to be a growing trend. I'm not even sure I really understand why, perhaps someone could enlighten me ? On-list ? :-) Please, we're not talking rigid rules or replies with 10 pages of 1881 census extracts here, just the ordinary run of the mill list traffic. And not the dreaded Reply /Reply All button debate either :-) Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry" <gerry@asterisk.co.uk> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:37 PM Subject: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Replying to queries > Hi listers > > I know that reading through e-mails that don't concern one can be a trifle > boring but can I ask that replies to queries are sent via the list and not > direct to the enquirer. The reason being that those of us who try to answer > queries then do not waste our time duplicating the effort put in by others. > > Gerry Lewis > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Gareth's Help Page > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > >

    05/24/2001 11:39:28
    1. [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Fishguard
    2. buttery
    3. Listing my interests: William HARRIES mariner alive in 1819 wife Margaret MEYLER HARRIES alive in 1841 census as HARRY ALL in Fishguard Ann Griffiths married Henry DAVIES 16 Dec 1817 in Fishguard. Would anyone be able to tell me if they were there in 1851 please? I'd also like to go back further with list advice...but live in Canada. Is there agood researcher in the area? Jane in Canada.

    05/24/2001 05:57:03
    1. [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Replying to queries
    2. Gerry
    3. Hi listers I know that reading through e-mails that don't concern one can be a trifle boring but can I ask that replies to queries are sent via the list and not direct to the enquirer. The reason being that those of us who try to answer queries then do not waste our time duplicating the effort put in by others. Gerry Lewis

    05/24/2001 05:37:07
    1. Re: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Replying to queries
    2. Elida
    3. DITTO!!! Elida in South Carolina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry" <gerry@asterisk.co.uk> To: <WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 7:37 AM Subject: [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Replying to queries > Hi listers > > I know that reading through e-mails that don't concern one can be a trifle > boring but can I ask that replies to queries are sent via the list and not > direct to the enquirer. The reason being that those of us who try to answer > queries then do not waste our time duplicating the effort put in by others. > > Gerry Lewis > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Gareth's Help Page > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html >

    05/24/2001 03:16:46
    1. [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Fw: Amish Elevator (OFF TOPIC)
    2. Sally Walton
    3. Oh, boy! can you imagine what This would do to our genealogy searches if the age rolled back as well??? Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: Honey V Vartabedian <havanap@juno.com> To: <flkjlk@prodigy.net>; <WAG2829@aol.com>; <claude@cipcug.org>; <ncwalt@email.dnet.net>; <deedee125@webworkz.com>; <ddheim@webworkz.com>; <timade@webworkz.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 1:01 PM Subject: Amish Elevator > > >> An Amish boy and his father were visiting a mall. > >> They were amazed by almost everything they saw, but > >especially by two > >shiny, > >> silver walls that could move apart and then slide back > >together > >again. > >> The boy asked, "What is this, Father?" > >> The father (never having seen an elevator) responded > >"Son, I have > >never > >seen > >> anything like this in my life, I don't know what it is." > >> While the boy and his father were watching with > >amazement, a fat old > >lady > >in > >> a wheel chair rolled up to the moving walls and pressed a > >button. > >The > >walls > >> opened and the lady rolled between them into a small > >room. The walls > >closed > >> and the boy and his father watched the small circular > >numbers above > >the > >> walls light up sequentially. They continued to watch > >until it reached > >the > >> last number and then the numbers began to light in the > >reverse order. > >> Finally the walls opened up again and a gorgeous, > >voluptuous 24 year > >old > >> blonde woman stepped out. The father, not taking his eyes > >off the > >young > >> woman, said quietly to his son ... > >> "Go get your mother". > ~~~~~~~~~~*********~~~~~~~ > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >

    05/23/2001 05:26:45
    1. [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Llanboidy
    2. elaine
    3. Dear Ray, We're moving and haven't kept up with the list. Have looked at Llanboidy, Carms., marriages 1813-37 with only one MORRIS showing...Shadrach in 1832 married Sarah WILLIAM...not even close to Thomas. Regards, Elaine.

    05/20/2001 02:09:05
    1. [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] NATIONAL BURIAL INDEX
    2. Gareth
    3. Here is a message that the FFHS have asked to be circulated. ################ NATIONAL BURIAL INDEX If you've already placed an order which you haven't yet received, we apologise for the delay. The NBI has proved even more popular than we had anticipated and our FFHS Publications company have received almost 12,000 orders. You'll be glad to know that they've taken on additional staff to cope with the resultant backlog, and I trust that you'll receive your copy of the NBI very soon. Please note that they will not have cashed your cheque or debited your card payment until they have sent out your order. Thanks again for being so patient. Regards Alec Tritton Vice-Chairman (Acting Chairman) Federation of Family History Societies ############# Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html

    05/19/2001 12:22:11
    1. [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Fw: [Dyfed] RICHARDS & DUGGAN
    2. john richards
    3. This does not appear to have been processed, at least it did not come into my In box. Any way, Freeserve is back now. Sorry if everyone else received the original! John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john.gw" <john.gw@ic24.net> > To: <>; <>; "Gareth" <> > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] RICHARDS & DUGGAN > > > > Thanks Gareth, > > > > Now look where you have landed up - on your office doorstep I presume but > > miles from anywhere !! > > > > Yes, we have sheep just around the corner and are only 30 mins by train > > central London. Best of both worlds we think. > > > > Very sadly, nil response to my original message. Surely there must be some > > RICHARDS or DUGGAN relatives out there. Further data on request. No SAE > > required. > > > > Regards, > > > > John. > > > > ps, Freeserve down so using ic24 emergency service! > > > > St Albans, Herts. UK > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gareth" <tirbach@clara.co.uk> > > To: "john richards" <john@gtwest.freeserve.co.uk>; <DYFED-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 3:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [Dyfed] RICHARDS & DUGGAN > > > > > > > Don't know what you're complaining about John ! > > > As a reaction to commuting by train into London for a few years I > resolved > > > never again to live more than a 30 minute steady car ride to the office. > > > Result of that master plan was I ended up moving house 9 times in a 36 > > year > > > career. > > > Daft or what ?? > > > And I'm sure we mislaid a couple of kids along the way............... > :-) > > > > > > Gareth > > > List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk > > > Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html > > > Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "john richards" <john@gtwest.freeserve.co.uk> > > > To: <DYFED-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:16 PM > > > Subject: [Dyfed] RICHARDS & DUGGAN > > > > > > > > > > Greetings one and all, > > > > > > > > Don't consider doing it - moving home, I mean. After living within the > > > > London area all my life and Totteridge for the last 35 years, I'm in a > > > state > > > > of trauma. > > > > > > > > Please aid my recovery by, I hope, helping me. > > > > > > > > I would like to hear from anyone who has an interest in RICHARDS and > > > DUGGAN > > > > with connections to Pembroke and the area south and west of the town. > To > > > > date I go back to around 1800 but there are many large descendant > gaps. > > > > > > > > John Richards. > > > > (St. Albans UK) > > > > > > > > RICHARDS & DUGGAN (Pembs) DFHS 2715 > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 09/05/01 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DYFED Mailing List ==== > > > > Genuki CMN http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 09/05/01 > > > > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 09/05/01 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 09/05/01

    05/18/2001 05:17:22
    1. [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Rootsweb threaded archive
    2. Gareth
    3. The Rootsweb threaded list archive is down at present, don't know how long for, the ordinary archive is working OK. These are the urls Rootsweb Archives Search http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Rootsweb THREADED Archive Search http://archiver.rootsweb.com/DYFED-L/ [Change Dyfed to WLS-Cardiganshire/Pembrokeshire as appropriate] Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html

    05/18/2001 09:23:29
    1. [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] RICHARDS & DUGGAN
    2. john richards
    3. Greetings one and all, Don't consider doing it - moving home, I mean. After living within the London area all my life and Totteridge for the last 35 years, I'm in a state of trauma. Please aid my recovery by, I hope, helping me. I would like to hear from anyone who has an interest in RICHARDS and DUGGAN with connections to Pembroke and the area south and west of the town. To date I go back to around 1800 but there are many large descendant gaps. John Richards. (St. Albans UK) RICHARDS & DUGGAN (Pembs) DFHS 2715 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 09/05/01

    05/17/2001 05:16:28
    1. [WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE] Lookup Exchange/Help Page has moved
    2. Gareth
    3. I have been running the freeserve and clara.net sites together for a while, now time to drop freeserve. I have therefore just removed the freeserve pages, leaving behind only a link to the clara.net gateway pages below. Please change your bookmarks, and my email address, although I will continue to use the latter as a backup. Gareth List Administrator for Dyfed, CGN & PEM. tirbach@clara.co.uk Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html

    05/17/2001 12:39:26