Hi Gareth, I would like to go along with your sentiments too. I have been quite quiet on the List over recent months (off on my Staffordshire ancestors, I afraid) but I am still here monitoring the List and help where I can. It is only through kind people that we meet on these Lists that we are able to further our research. I, for one, have been helped beyond my wildest dreams over the years from people I have lost touch with - usually loosing their email address when my system has crashed! I, too, would just like to thank all those people on the Pembs/Dyfed List who have helped me over the years I have subscribed and in return I hope to be able to continue helping fellow/new researchers and wish everyone a Happy New Year. Rose Epsom/UK

Dear Pat, Following your correspondence with Libby, I've had a look at a few things, and I offer the following for your thoughts. Because the 48 years old John Davies was a Tanner, it seems likely that his father was the John Davies, Tanner, aged 60 in the 1881 census living at Thomas St. O Gardens, Pembroke St. Mary with his widowed daughter Ann Greirson aged 31 and her sons John H. Greirson 7 and David H. aged 2. This gives John Davies (senior) a birth date of 1821, so I looked in the marriage index and there are a couple of Joseph Davies likely candidates for his father, but there is also a John Davies, servant, who married Martha Morris on 12th. December, 1820 at St. Mary's Haverfordwest. (I've found the term "servant" awfully misleading, sometimes these folks had means and weren't my interpretation of servant at all). The John Davies with wife Elizabeth and 3 year old William Henry lived at 9 Mansel St. O Gardens, Pembroke St. Mary. Libby has told us that William Henry became a lawyer (I think the "worker" is just a red herring and the folks who were employed at that time are designated as such on this entry, whilst the wives and children are not). This led me to 'A History of Haverfordwest' edited by Mr. Dillwyn Miles......and from there back to the 1881 census where 59 years old William Davies, Solicitor and MP for the County of Pembroke is shown residing with his family at Spring Gardens, Haverfordwest St. Martin. There may be no connection whatsoever, as the Davies name is so common......but I wondered if perhaps there is some remote family tie between the MP/Solicitor and the young lawyer. Davies, a solicitor, had contested the county as a Liberal in a by-election in 1876 .....his former partner was a William Rees. He would be 79 if still alive in 1901...so the names and occupations are probably just coincidental, but I wondered why the son and grandson of a Tanner aspired to a legal career...maybe he was just clever. Warm regards. Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. PS. This all seems familiar, have we gone down this road previously? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Libby" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 12:53 AM Subject: RE: [WLS-PEM] RE: William Henry Davies > Hi Pat, > Thanks for the email. I believe that the William Henry Davies, aged 3 > living in Mansel Street in Pembroke, 1881 is one and the same person. > According to the 1891 Census he was living at 8 Mansel Street, however, the > details of where his parents were born are different, but ages match. Is it > possible that these two are not the same family?? Can someone tell me if > the street was renumbered, or did they really move that many times? Any > help with this family would be most appreciated. > > Here are the details from the 1901 Census..... > > 17 Mansel Street,St. Mary's, Pembroke RG13/5122, Page 12 > > John Davies, Head, Married 48 Tanner Worker Pembroke > English > Elizabeth Davies, Wife, Married 50 Pembroke > English > John Davies, Father, Widow 80 Pembroke > English > William H. Son Single 23 Lawyer Worker Pembroke > English > Samuel G. Son Single 16 Carpenter Worker Pembroke > English > Phyllis Davies, Niece Single 14 Pembroke > English > > Thanks for your help with this, yours, > Libby Clarke > Bracebridge, ON > Canada > [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Powell [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: December 30, 2003 8:19 AM > To: Libby > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: [WLS-PEM] RE: William Henry Davies > > > Hi Libby > > Can you give us the rest of the information re the 1901 census entry? = > Particularly his age and birthplace - then may be we can find some more > information for you. > Who else was living in the same household? > > William Henry Davies is not an uncommon name!! - There is a William > Henry Davies aged 3 living in Mansel Street, Pembroke in 1881 - any > match? > > Cheers > > Pat > > > > In message <[email protected]>, > Libby <[email protected]> writes > >Happy New Year to a most helpful list. > >I am trying to track down the above individual who was listed as a lawyer > in > >the 1901 Census of St. Mary's Pembroke, Wales. At that time he was > residing > >at 17 Mansel Street. According to the other Census information that I have > >he was born in Pembroke. I am wondering if there might be a directory of > >Lawyers for that time period. The Census also states that he was a worker, > >so it is likely that he was working for another law firm. I believe that > he > >moved to Haverfordwest at some point and may have opened up his own firm > >there. Any light you may be able to shed will be most appreciated. > >Thanks for your time and efforts. > > > >Libby Clarke > >Bracebridge, ON > >[email protected] > >--- > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.556 / Virus Database: 348 - Release Date: 26/12/2003 > > > >______________________________ > > -- > Pat Powell > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.556 / Virus Database: 348 - Release Date: 26/12/2003 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.556 / Virus Database: 348 - Release Date: 26/12/2003 > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Dyfed FHS > http://www.dyfedfhs.org.uk/ >

Hello Bettye and Libby - and any others following this thread. To answer some of your points. 1. Yes we have gone down this road before. Some time ago following a query from Libby for a Martha Davies I found in 1881 the following who I think is a better match for the parents of John Davies. Maybe Libby you can tell us if this is part of the same family - and if you have confirmed that this is your Martha? Dwelling: East End Census Place: Pembroke St Michael, Pembroke, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342303 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5410 Folio 67 Page 13 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John DAVIES M 58 M Penelly, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Head Occ: General Labourer Elizabeth DAVIES M 48 F St Marys, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Wife Occ: Wife Martha DAVIES U 22 F St Marys, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Daur Occ: Cook (Dom) 2. Secondly with regard to the "lawyer" question. First I don't think William Henry Davies of Spring gardens comes into this family (My Mum lived in Spring Gardens when she was 3years old!!! - not that that has any relevance!) I have followedup that W H Davies for someone else a long time ago - so I woulds have to look back at my notes. However maybe Libby could answer this one- I see in the on-line 1901 index that William Henry Davies is shown as a "Sawyer" not a "Lawyer". Certainly these often look similar in the writing of the time - so have you just taken the "lawer" from the print of the census page, Libby - or has it been substantiated by other docs? Certainly Sawyer would fit in more with the family where brother Samuel George is shown as a carpenter. 3. I have also been looking back in the 1851 census and found a possible for John Davies the grandfather of William Henry Davies but I'm not sure yet so I will come back to you both later. The coincidence of the wives seems to be a bit too much!! Williams parents were John and Elizabeth. John's parents were John and Elizabeth and now the second John (aged 27 in 1851) has parents John and Elizabeth!!! He also has a sister Martha. Anyway - between us all we may get to the bottom of this. Happy new year to you all - chat to you again soon. Pat In message <[email protected]>, BJ & LC Kirkwood <[email protected]> writes >Dear Pat, > >Following your correspondence with Libby, I've had a look at a few things, >and I offer the following for your thoughts. > >Because the 48 years old John Davies was a Tanner, it seems likely that his >father was the John Davies, Tanner, aged 60 in the 1881 census living at >Thomas St. O Gardens, Pembroke St. Mary with his widowed daughter Ann >Greirson aged 31 and her sons John H. Greirson 7 and David H. aged 2. > >This gives John Davies (senior) a birth date of 1821, so I looked in the >marriage index and there are a couple of Joseph Davies likely candidates for >his father, but there is also a John Davies, servant, who married Martha >Morris on 12th. December, 1820 at St. Mary's Haverfordwest. (I've found the >term "servant" awfully misleading, sometimes these folks had means and >weren't my interpretation of servant at all). > >The John Davies with wife Elizabeth and 3 year old William Henry lived at 9 >Mansel St. O Gardens, Pembroke St. Mary. > >Libby has told us that William Henry became a lawyer (I think the "worker" >is just a red herring and the folks who were employed at that time are >designated as such on this entry, whilst the wives and children are not). > >This led me to 'A History of Haverfordwest' edited by Mr. Dillwyn >Miles......and from there back to the 1881 census >where 59 years old William Davies, Solicitor and MP for the County of >Pembroke is shown residing with his family at Spring Gardens, Haverfordwest >St. Martin. > >There may be no connection whatsoever, as the Davies name is so >common......but I wondered if perhaps there is some remote family tie >between the MP/Solicitor and the young lawyer. > >Davies, a solicitor, had contested the county as a Liberal in a by-election >in 1876 .....his former partner was a William Rees. He would be 79 if still >alive in 1901...so the names and occupations are probably just coincidental, >but I wondered why the son and grandson of a Tanner aspired to a legal >career...maybe he was just clever. > >Warm regards. > >Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. > >PS. This all seems familiar, have we gone down this road previously? >----- Original Message ----- -- Pat Powell

Pat & Bettye, I can't thank you enough for all your help. To date, I have not actually seen the 1881 census documents but hope to do so in the new year. I have a printed copy of the 1891 page and I do have a downloaded version of the 1901 page and upon closer look at that image I must admit that Pat you just might be correct. The first letter of the word does look more like the "S" in son than the "L" in Labourer. This would make much more sense as you say. As to the question of Martha, I'm still trying to find out who she was. The Census info you sent below for 1881, does seem to be a good match, however, the birthplaces for the parents don't seem to match the 1891 Census although they are close. One other puzzling fact is that on Martha Davies marriage certificate to Walter John Hoad in 1887, John Davies is listed as Gameskeeper, which does not seem to fit either of these two families. I believe that the younger John Davies in the 1901 Census and Martha Davies the one in the 1881 Census are brother and sister, thus giving credence to the niece, Phyllis in the 1901 Census. I would just like to find them all together in one place!!! I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who is confused by all these John and Elizabeth's....and to make matters worse, my full name is Elizabeth and I have a brother John!!! Happy New Year to all and thanks again for all your help throughout the year. Libby Clarke Bracebridge, ON Canada -----Original Message----- From: Pat Powell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: December 31, 2003 5:12 AM To: BJ & LC Kirkwood Cc: [email protected]; Libby Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] RE: William Henry Davies Hello Bettye and Libby - and any others following this thread. To answer some of your points. 1. Yes we have gone down this road before. Some time ago following a query from Libby for a Martha Davies I found in 1881 the following who I think is a better match for the parents of John Davies. Maybe Libby you can tell us if this is part of the same family - and if you have confirmed that this is your Martha? Dwelling: East End Census Place: Pembroke St Michael, Pembroke, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342303 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5410 Folio 67 Page 13 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John DAVIES M 58 M Penelly, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Head Occ: General Labourer Elizabeth DAVIES M 48 F St Marys, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Wife Occ: Wife Martha DAVIES U 22 F St Marys, Pembroke, Wales Rel: Daur Occ: Cook (Dom) 2. Secondly with regard to the "lawyer" question. First I don't think William Henry Davies of Spring gardens comes into this family (My Mum lived in Spring Gardens when she was 3years old!!! - not that that has any relevance!) I have followedup that W H Davies for someone else a long time ago - so I woulds have to look back at my notes. However maybe Libby could answer this one- I see in the on-line 1901 index that William Henry Davies is shown as a "Sawyer" not a "Lawyer". Certainly these often look similar in the writing of the time - so have you just taken the "lawer" from the print of the census page, Libby - or has it been substantiated by other docs? Certainly Sawyer would fit in more with the family where brother Samuel George is shown as a carpenter. 3. I have also been looking back in the 1851 census and found a possible for John Davies the grandfather of William Henry Davies but I'm not sure yet so I will come back to you both later. The coincidence of the wives seems to be a bit too much!! Williams parents were John and Elizabeth. John's parents were John and Elizabeth and now the second John (aged 27 in 1851) has parents John and Elizabeth!!! He also has a sister Martha. Anyway - between us all we may get to the bottom of this. Happy new year to you all - chat to you again soon. Pat In message <[email protected]>, BJ & LC Kirkwood <[email protected]> writes >Dear Pat, > >Following your correspondence with Libby, I've had a look at a few things, >and I offer the following for your thoughts. > >Because the 48 years old John Davies was a Tanner, it seems likely that his >father was the John Davies, Tanner, aged 60 in the 1881 census living at >Thomas St. O Gardens, Pembroke St. Mary with his widowed daughter Ann >Greirson aged 31 and her sons John H. Greirson 7 and David H. aged 2. > >This gives John Davies (senior) a birth date of 1821, so I looked in the >marriage index and there are a couple of Joseph Davies likely candidates for >his father, but there is also a John Davies, servant, who married Martha >Morris on 12th. December, 1820 at St. Mary's Haverfordwest. (I've found the >term "servant" awfully misleading, sometimes these folks had means and >weren't my interpretation of servant at all). > >The John Davies with wife Elizabeth and 3 year old William Henry lived at 9 >Mansel St. O Gardens, Pembroke St. Mary. > >Libby has told us that William Henry became a lawyer (I think the "worker" >is just a red herring and the folks who were employed at that time are >designated as such on this entry, whilst the wives and children are not). > >This led me to 'A History of Haverfordwest' edited by Mr. Dillwyn >Miles......and from there back to the 1881 census >where 59 years old William Davies, Solicitor and MP for the County of >Pembroke is shown residing with his family at Spring Gardens, Haverfordwest >St. Martin. > >There may be no connection whatsoever, as the Davies name is so >common......but I wondered if perhaps there is some remote family tie >between the MP/Solicitor and the young lawyer. > >Davies, a solicitor, had contested the county as a Liberal in a by-election >in 1876 .....his former partner was a William Rees. He would be 79 if still >alive in 1901...so the names and occupations are probably just coincidental, >but I wondered why the son and grandson of a Tanner aspired to a legal >career...maybe he was just clever. > >Warm regards. > >Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. > >PS. This all seems familiar, have we gone down this road previously? >----- Original Message ----- -- Pat Powell --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.556 / Virus Database: 348 - Release Date: 26/12/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.556 / Virus Database: 348 - Release Date: 26/12/2003

Dear Jenny, I don't know about Mt. Hermon, as I'm here with you in OZ, but I have the pre-1813 marriage index for Rhos Hundred in Pembrokeshire which includes the parish of Haverfordwest St. Thomas....and that's how it is listed. Bettye Kirkwood ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Dempster" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 2:35 PM Subject: [WLS-PEM] Saint thomas > Hello all, Happy New Year to everyone. > I have two birth certificates which give place of birth as Mount Hermon, Parish of Saint thomas, Haverfordwest However I have just noticed that the alphabetical listing of parishes on genuki, do not list a Saint Thomas. Can anyone shed any light on this. thanks > Jenny Dempster, Australia > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Genuki Wales > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ > >

Hello all, Happy New Year to everyone. I have two birth certificates which give place of birth as Mount Hermon, Parish of Saint thomas, Haverfordwest However I have just noticed that the alphabetical listing of parishes on genuki, do not list a Saint Thomas. Can anyone shed any light on this. thanks Jenny Dempster, Australia

Hi Libby Can you give us the rest of the information re the 1901 census entry? = Particularly his age and birthplace - then may be we can find some more information for you. Who else was living in the same household? William Henry Davies is not an uncommon name!! - There is a William Henry Davies aged 3 living in Mansel Street, Pembroke in 1881 - any match? Cheers Pat In message <[email protected]>, Libby <[email protected]> writes >Happy New Year to a most helpful list. >I am trying to track down the above individual who was listed as a lawyer in >the 1901 Census of St. Mary's Pembroke, Wales. At that time he was residing >at 17 Mansel Street. According to the other Census information that I have >he was born in Pembroke. I am wondering if there might be a directory of >Lawyers for that time period. The Census also states that he was a worker, >so it is likely that he was working for another law firm. I believe that he >moved to Haverfordwest at some point and may have opened up his own firm >there. Any light you may be able to shed will be most appreciated. >Thanks for your time and efforts. > >Libby Clarke >Bracebridge, ON >[email protected] >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.556 / Virus Database: 348 - Release Date: 26/12/2003 > >______________________________ -- Pat Powell

Hello Jenny Happy new Year! Mount Hermon is the same as Hermon's Hill in Haverfordwest , parish of St Thomas. We have previously spoken of this address and the people living there. If you want more information re the ones mentioned in the birth certificates then give me some more details - or are they ones we have already talked about? Cheers Pat In message <[email protected]>, Jenny Dempster <[email protected]> writes >Hello all, Happy New Year to everyone. >I have two birth certificates which give place of birth as Mount Hermon, Parish >of Saint thomas, Haverfordwest However I have just noticed that the >alphabetical listing of parishes on genuki, do not list a Saint Thomas. Can >anyone shed any light on this. thanks >Jenny Dempster, Australia > >______________________________ -- Pat Powell

Hi Pat, Thanks for the email. I believe that the William Henry Davies, aged 3 living in Mansel Street in Pembroke, 1881 is one and the same person. According to the 1891 Census he was living at 8 Mansel Street, however, the details of where his parents were born are different, but ages match. Is it possible that these two are not the same family?? Can someone tell me if the street was renumbered, or did they really move that many times? Any help with this family would be most appreciated. Here are the details from the 1901 Census..... 17 Mansel Street,St. Mary's, Pembroke RG13/5122, Page 12 John Davies, Head, Married 48 Tanner Worker Pembroke English Elizabeth Davies, Wife, Married 50 Pembroke English John Davies, Father, Widow 80 Pembroke English William H. Son Single 23 Lawyer Worker Pembroke English Samuel G. Son Single 16 Carpenter Worker Pembroke English Phyllis Davies, Niece Single 14 Pembroke English Thanks for your help with this, yours, Libby Clarke Bracebridge, ON Canada [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Pat Powell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: December 30, 2003 8:19 AM To: Libby Cc: [email protected] Subject: [WLS-PEM] RE: William Henry Davies Hi Libby Can you give us the rest of the information re the 1901 census entry? = Particularly his age and birthplace - then may be we can find some more information for you. Who else was living in the same household? William Henry Davies is not an uncommon name!! - There is a William Henry Davies aged 3 living in Mansel Street, Pembroke in 1881 - any match? Cheers Pat In message <[email protected]>, Libby <[email protected]> writes >Happy New Year to a most helpful list. >I am trying to track down the above individual who was listed as a lawyer in >the 1901 Census of St. Mary's Pembroke, Wales. At that time he was residing >at 17 Mansel Street. According to the other Census information that I have >he was born in Pembroke. I am wondering if there might be a directory of >Lawyers for that time period. The Census also states that he was a worker, >so it is likely that he was working for another law firm. I believe that he >moved to Haverfordwest at some point and may have opened up his own firm >there. Any light you may be able to shed will be most appreciated. >Thanks for your time and efforts. > >Libby Clarke >Bracebridge, ON >[email protected] >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.556 / Virus Database: 348 - Release Date: 26/12/2003 > >______________________________ -- Pat Powell --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.556 / Virus Database: 348 - Release Date: 26/12/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.556 / Virus Database: 348 - Release Date: 26/12/2003

Happy New Year to a most helpful list. I am trying to track down the above individual who was listed as a lawyer in the 1901 Census of St. Mary's Pembroke, Wales. At that time he was residing at 17 Mansel Street. According to the other Census information that I have he was born in Pembroke. I am wondering if there might be a directory of Lawyers for that time period. The Census also states that he was a worker, so it is likely that he was working for another law firm. I believe that he moved to Haverfordwest at some point and may have opened up his own firm there. Any light you may be able to shed will be most appreciated. Thanks for your time and efforts. Libby Clarke Bracebridge, ON [email protected] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.556 / Virus Database: 348 - Release Date: 26/12/2003

Forwarded for the Glamlist admins Gareth List administrator for DYFED, CGN & PEM Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Muir" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 8:48 PM Subject: [Dyfed] Glamorgan Certificates Hello Listers, With Gareth's permission I wish to let you know of a 'new' web site, which is in its infancy and for the time, being anyhow is called 'Glamorgan Certificates' This is a database of certificates, wills and photographs owned principally by Glamorgan Rootsweb List members. The site exists to help others researching families in Glamorgan or the rest of Wales and of course you are all very welcome to take a look through the site. If you wish register and add any certificates or photographs we would be very pleased. The more the merrier of course. The site can be found at:- http://www.ukgen.com/forums/glamorgan/ Cheers Jill Joint List Administrator for the Glamorgan Mailing List See List outline at:- http://www.muir.clara.net/glamorgan ==== DYFED Mailing List ==== South/West Wales Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html

Hi List As I am new to Pembrokeshire in my ancestry research and initially it is aimed at Freystrop and its area in an around the very early 1800's I would be pleased to hear from anyone who has any knowledge of its history and people etc. I understand it was and possibly still is just a small village. Any thoughts I would be pleased to receive. Best Regards...Rita --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now

Hi Rita On the index of baptisms for Rhos hundred 1813-37 published by the Dyfed FHS there are two Ann YOUNGs listed at around the right time. There was one baptised at Freystrop in 1824 and another at Rosemarket in 1823. The index doesn't give any further details, but you may be able to find these entries on the IGI online to find out the parents names. Good luck and a Happy New Year to you and all other listers Sandra Hello Pembroke, > > New member signing on in hopes someone can help me with an ANN > YOUNG born circa 1823 at a place called FREYSTROP in Pembrokeshire. > I believe she married a JAMES LITTLE ( my Gt Gt Gt Grandfather) > born circa 1821 in Hungerford in Wilts. > > On the 1861 British Census, if I am correct with Ann's maiden > name, the family were living in Union Street, Pontlottyn, > Glamorganshire and had three children William Little aged 13 yrs, > Thomas Little aged 9 yrs and Elizabeth Little aged 2 yrs. > ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html

Dear Rita, Happy New Year to you too! We are always happy to welcome a new researcher to the List and are pleased if we can help. The 1813-37 marriage index shows three possibilities: 20/11/1813 John Young, Labourer, married Martha Watts at Freystrop 11/04/1816 William Young, Farmer of Freystrop, married Phoebe Davies at Haroldston St. Issells 19/11/1822 Thomas Young of Freystrop married Mary Roberts at St. Thomas Haverfordwest. Because of the names your Anne gave her children it is a toss-up between the latter two marriages to provide her own parents. I do not have the 1841 census material, but, using these marriages, perhaps another Lister can find Anne at that time and hopefully living at home. I have the pre-1813 Roch Hundred marriages (which include Freystrop) but have mislaid the last page which contains the Young males. I have the page which contains the female Youngs, but none married at Freystrop and I could not find any relevant earlier wills. The will of a John Young of Roch was proved in 1716 and another of the same name proved at Burton in 1611. I have an interest in the very early Youngs of Nevern if any other Lister has them in their sights. Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rita woodcock" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 5:14 AM Subject: [WLS-PEM] Re: ANN YOUNG - FREYSTROP > > Hello Pembroke, > > New member signing on in hopes someone can help me with an ANN YOUNG born circa 1823 at a place called FREYSTROP in Pembrokeshire. > > I believe she married a JAMES LITTLE ( my Gt Gt Gt Grandfather) born circa 1821 in Hungerford in Wilts. > > On the 1861 British Census, if I am correct with Ann's maiden name, the family were living in Union Street, Pontlottyn, Glamorganshire and had three children William Little aged 13 yrs, Thomas Little aged 9 yrs and Elizabeth Little aged 2 yrs. > > Anyone with information on ANN YOUNG would be most welcomed. > > Best Regards and a Happy New Year to you all. > > Rita > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > South/West Wales Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html >

Hello Pembroke, New member signing on in hopes someone can help me with an ANN YOUNG born circa 1823 at a place called FREYSTROP in Pembrokeshire. I believe she married a JAMES LITTLE ( my Gt Gt Gt Grandfather) born circa 1821 in Hungerford in Wilts. On the 1861 British Census, if I am correct with Ann's maiden name, the family were living in Union Street, Pontlottyn, Glamorganshire and had three children William Little aged 13 yrs, Thomas Little aged 9 yrs and Elizabeth Little aged 2 yrs. Anyone with information on ANN YOUNG would be most welcomed. Best Regards and a Happy New Year to you all. Rita --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now

Dear Listers, This week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales', just uploaded onto my website, features: 1. The historic St David's Cathedral in the tiny Pembrokeshire city of St David's. This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in February 1998 (five photos). 2. The mysterious Arthur's Stone on the top of Cefn Bryn, Gower, in the county of Glamorgan. This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in March 1998 (four photos). To view my Retrospective webpages, go to http://home.clara.net/wfha/walespic/retro/retro.htm Enjoy!! Best wishes, John ---------------------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, South Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/ Welsh Family History Archive (WFHA): http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.552 / Virus Database: 344 - Release Date: 15/12/2003

Dear all A poor excuse of a subject line - but did not want my wrists slapped for going off geneology Christmas OWEN was my grandfather born Dec 25th 1901 - as the family joke goes - could have been worse - he might have been born on Shrove Tuesday! Anyway - a cheeky way of reminding all of who I am researching AND to wish all fellow researchers a very merry Christmas, hope Santa brings sacks full of ancestors! And that 2004 is rewarding, healthy and happy for all. Many thanks for all who have either shown an interest in my research or have helped, Researching in and around Fishguard/ Dinas Cross / Llanychaer / Manorowen etc OWEN - all dates THOMAS (yes! I know there are tooo many names & dates to share) JAMES (ditto) EVANS (ditto) CORNOCK - if anyone has anything on Cornock ANYWHERE I would be interested Also researching various surnames in Aberdeenshire Scotland - PETERKIN and FALCONER and Norfolk, England CANHAM, DIX/DIXON, CLARKE With kind regards - Nadolig Llawen Melanie - Fishguard --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.538 / Virus Database: 333 - Release Date: 11/10/03

Hi everyone, I know a group e-mail doesn't have much of the personal touch, but I thought I'd just say "Merry Christmas and Happy new Year" to you all in one fell swoop! Hope you all have a good time, Jo Thomas ===== Joanne Thomas [email protected] http://www.geocities.com/journeymouse/ ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html

I would like to wish a very Happy Christmas to all those kind folk who give up so much of their time to helping others on this List, wouldn't it be wonderful if every List had a a similar bunch of people. Sally --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.553 / Virus Database: 345 - Release Date: 18/12/03

Anyone not interested in spam protection delete now. I use Mailwasher pro, and as of yesterday the FirstAlert optional reporting facility. The Statistics facility tells me that over the last month I received 5627 emails of which 3464 were spam filtered and deleted. In other words out of c180 a day then c110 are spam, leaving 70 a day which are legit. I guess around 60% spam is par for the course these days, if you get a lot less then consider yourselves fortunate. But I have this week noticed on 3 separate occasions that legitimate emails I noticed in Mailwasher in the pre-download phase then disappeared, or were deleted. This made me check last month's log to make sure there weren't any others, there were in fact a couple more. All the erroneous deletes appeared to be prompted by reference to the DNS spam check list, particularly Spamcop. The upshot of it all is that I have turned this DNS reference off as being not 100% reliable. Other Mailwasher users might check their own systems for accuracy too. Gareth List administrator for DYFED, CGN & PEM Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html .