Hello all I have just had an email inviting me to sign up for the Family History Network. They appear to be in Utah, USA. Bearing in mind some questionable experiences with other American agencies, directories and so on, has anyone heard of this, and is it any good? Thanks Martin --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 08/01/04

Hi all.Here are some of my Pembs;Interests.... Henry EVANS[1797-1869]a "Blacksmith" of Hubberston, Milford Haven.He was the son of John EVANS[born at Steynton 1773]He was a "Mariner"of Milford Haven[1841 census].He married Mary,Nee EVANS at Hubberston in 1796. John EVANS was the son of William EVANS,who married Elizabeth PHILLIPS at Robeston in 1769.All of these are my paternal ancestors.If anyone is connected?Id sure like to hear from you to exchange information. Cheers,Graham. Graham Williams,Glam;FHS;#551 of Canton,Cardiff. "Seek and Ye shall Find!"

Hi David good to hear from you I have no recollection of seeing Mclaren when I was reading the BTs for Llanfairnantygof---have not recorded thar name in my jottings--but wouldn't have since it is not relevant to me--next time I go to the NLW--which I have no doubt will be soon!!- I will revist them--just incase.It's a few years since I looked at them Best wishes Ann D

Hello Janetann Davies. Hope you'll forgive me for diving in . . . In your reply to Barry Francis re his Howell family of Nantgwyn Farm, you indicate you have connections in Llanfairnantygof parish. I wonder if you have ever come across my 2ggrandfather, who was of that parish at the time of his marriage in 1818 at Henry's Moat church to Sarah Phillips of Farthings Hook. His name was uncommon for N Pembs, so you may recall it if you saw it whilst searching for your own family. He was James McLaren, b.Scotland (possibly Scone, Perthshire) and a steward, aged c27, at the time of the marriage. I assume he was employed on the Trecwn estate but I know not his parents' names, nor anything of his origins - and of course would dearly like to. After marriage, he soon turned to farming and is to be found, successively, at farms at Ambleston, New Moat, Rosemarket and Steynton parishes in the county. He was buried in Steynton churchyard in 1852, aged 61. He had 12 children, one of whom - another James, who also had 12 children and also farmed in Pembs, before eventually settling in Cardiganshire - was my paternal grandmother's father. The elder James appears to have emigrated to Pembs alone - his parents are not shown as witnesses to his marriage and I assume they remained in Scotland. His origins have long eluded me, so any information on his early life I would welcome gratefully. Thank you in anticipation, David Lloyd Rugby UK

Hi Barry this is what you want -- checked it on the 1851 in NLW this morning Nantgwyn---Llanfairnantygof John Howells Head 55 Famer 350 acres employing 5 labourers b Jordanstone Martha " wife 52 b St Dogwels Thomas " son S 30 b Jordanstone (?)Phanny " dau " 24 " Mary " " 13 Manorowen Hugh " son 7 Llanfair William Triddle servant 20 Letterstone David Jenkins " 14 Llanfair Dorothy Thomas " 19 Llandeloy Sarah Owen " 22 Morvil Rechecked the one that I sent you yesterday even though recorded in Letterstone it is the mountain behind and Cwmwyntill is recorded in both parishes---I went there last year--top of the mountain!!--so both dwellings very close Anyway here it is just incase Cwmwyntill Letterstone Thomas Howel 25 Ag LAb b St Dogwells Mary " 30 Letterstone Maryanne " 3 " William " 1 " the record before it is of the Family of George Devonald and the record after it is of John Jenkins who is probably one of "mine" Best wishes Ann Davies in Aberystwyth

Dear Listers You have been really wonderful with all the information that you have given us over the last few days. This is to say a huge big THANK YOU TO YOU ALL. I think I have replied to everyone, but just in case, please accept this as your thanks. We will let you know how we worked things out later. Regards and thanks again Jan in NZ

With many thanks to Bettye Kirkwood I am able to move a little further forward with my HOWELLS family Could I now request of SKS with the 1851 census for a lookup please? I'd like to know what members of the (HOWEL - HOWELLS) family where living at Nantgwynne Farm, Lanfairnantygof. (Various spellings of the farm name) Many thanks, Barry in Rainford, Lancs --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 08/01/2004

Hi Jan Here is a Goodridge family with Langum connections - father Thomas - but mother is Maria. I would think this is the THomas Goodridge who married Maria Reynolds in Langum in 1802. No sign of a George. Anyone else fit in with yours? 1851 census: Haverfordwest St Martin enum dist 5D Folio 203 page 13 schedule 57 Thomas Goodridge HD M 75 Ag Lab PEM Langum Maria " WI M 72 PEM St Dogwells Martha " DA U 19 House svt PEM Haverfordwest Maria " GD U 16 Dressmaker PEM Rudbaxton Anne " GD U 14 scholar PEM Haverfordwest Anne Cole lodger W 75 Pauper/ Lab's wife PEM Letterston Cheers Pat -- Pat Powell

Hello Jan There are quite a lot of Goodridge families around and several Georges. In your description you have quite a few "we think" so I'll start off with one family. There isn't a family in Lambston parish so I am starting with a family with parents Thomas and Anne and a son George and in 1841. The ages and some names don't fit with your data so let's see if we can work out whether to eliminate this family straightaway or keep as a possible. then I will go through some of the other which fit in different ways but not in others and we can see which is the best. Can you tell me the source of some of the facts you have given and which of them you are most certain of. Where was Grosvenor Goodridge born? Bye for now Pat 1841 census: Johnston parish folio 004 page 003 Thomas Gudridge 45 Ag lab Y Anne Gudridge 40 Y George Gudridge 7 Y Harriett Gudridge 10 Y William Gudridge 9 Y There is also a John Goodridge aged 18 working as a M.S in the household of Thomas and Mary Bowen and family a few doors away. Thomas Gudridge married Ann Harry in Pem St Lawrence on Nov 25 1821 In the 1851 the family is in Car parish Folio 231 page 11 schedule 39 Thomas Goodridge 53 Pem Walton Ann Goodridge 52 Pem St Dogwells George Goodridge 16 Pem Johnston Harriet Goodridge 21 Pem St Dogwells Note: I only have a transcribed index for 1851 and the transcriber has a ? after St Dogwells. In message <[email protected]>, Jan-Alan <jan- [email protected]> writes >Dear Listers > >I have just joined this list, in the hope of finding anyone else who is >researching the GOODRIDGE family name. > >My husband's Grandmother was Sarah Ann Goodridge and her father was Grosvenor >William Munroe Goodridge(born 23 Jan 1851) who we think married Sarah Jane >James. > >We believe that Grosvenor's father was George Goodridge born abt Feb 1825 in >Lambston, Pembroke. George we think married Eleanor ?. George had siblings >John born abt Jan 1803 Llangwm, Pembroke, David born abt 1815 Lambston, >Pembroke, Frances born abt Dec 1824 Lambston, Pembroke, and Martha born abt 1832 >St Martin, Haverfordwest, Pembroke. > >We also think that the generation before George and his siblings was Anne, >Thomas (their father) , John, Stephen, Dorothy, William and David all born in >Narberth, Pembroke. > >Does anyone connect with this family, as we would love to find out more. > >Many thanks >Jan in NZ > >______________________________ -- Pat Powell

Craig The 3 Pem parishes you mention have the Pigot's 1830 and 1844 extracts on Genuki, the address for Haverfordwest to get you started is http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/Haverfordwest/index.html#Directories There are other date directories for Neath on Genuki GLA too, you can navigate your way round the Wales Genuki system using the links at the top of each page. Gareth List administrator for DYFED, CGN & PEM Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html . ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 2:36 PM Subject: [WLS-PEM] 1830 Pigots Directory > Was wondering of any members of this list has access to Pigots 1830 Directory > of South Wales? > > Am searching for Aubrey/Awbrey/Obray names who lived in Neath, Haverfordwest, > Pembroke and Milford Haven. > > Thanks, > Craig > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb list archives[threaded] http://archiver.rootsweb.com/WLSPembrokeshire-L/ > >

Hi Craig You can find the entries for Pigots 1830 Directory for Dyfed on the Dyfed FHS website www.dyfedfhs.org.uk listed by surname. Sandra > Was wondering of any members of this list has access to Pigots > 1830 Directory > of South Wales? > > Am searching for Aubrey/Awbrey/Obray names who lived in Neath, > Haverfordwest, > Pembroke and Milford Haven. ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html

Dear Jan, You don't need to find someone else researching a family to obtain help from this List, though I hope Kevin was able to give you lots of information. (When the Cricket is showing on Aussie t.v., sorry, you wait a day or two). The following may help you find out more. You give George Goodridge's birth as around 1825 and that his suspected father's name was Thomas. A Thomas "Goodrich" married Elizabeth Lloyd at Cosheston on 28th. December, 1817...the minister may have erred when writing the surname. You could purchase the parish register entry from Haverfordwest Records Office to see how and if Thomas signed the register. A John Goodrich married at Llanstadwell in 1817 and a David Goodridge married Sarah Davies at Rosemarket on 22/07/1815...the next Goodridge marriage listed in the index is for 1828....not for a Thomas. What makes you think the family members were born in Narberth? The name does not appear in the pre-1813 marriage records for this Hundred, but, rather, in Rhos Hundred. Also you give a 32 years gap between the births of Thomas's siblings...Does this mean his father had two marriages, otherwise the wife would be having children from age 15 to about 45, realistically? John was said to be born Llangwm 1803...and the only Llangwm marriage listed for his possible parents is for a John Goodridge in 1787 to Sarah Phillips. John Goodridge may have married Jane Herbert at St. Mary's H/west on 12/05/1828 or Anne Emment at Rosemarket on 29/03/1834, or be the JG who was a mariner and married Elizabeth Davies at Tenby on 01/11/1835. David born about 1815 might possibly be the David Goodridge who married Mary John of Prendergast at Rudbaxton on 15/07/1834. For the previous generation....Stephen Goodridge married Hester Jones at Haverfordwest St. Martin in 1808 and William Goodrich married Elizabeth Gwinne at Rosemarket in 1810. There is no marriage listed for a Dorothy pre-1813, but a Mary and a Sarah married at Llangwm in the early 1800's. There appear to be only two Goodridge Wills pre-1858 for Richard of Monkton in 1613 and William of Cosheston in 1612. Haverfordwest Records Office could look at the St. David's Probate index sheets for the name for you, to ascertain if there are any Bonds, Grants or Inventories held at The National Library, but if you wish you could order copies of the abstracts for these two wills from the Records Office from dates I have supplied here. Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan-Alan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 9:03 PM Subject: [WLS-PEM] GOODRIDGE research > Dear Listers > > I have just joined this list, in the hope of finding anyone else who is researching the GOODRIDGE family name. > > My husband's Grandmother was Sarah Ann Goodridge and her father was Grosvenor William Munroe Goodridge(born 23 Jan 1851) who we think married Sarah Jane James. > > We believe that Grosvenor's father was George Goodridge born abt Feb 1825 in Lambston, Pembroke. George we think married Eleanor ?. George had siblings John born abt Jan 1803 Llangwm, Pembroke, David born abt 1815 Lambston, Pembroke, Frances born abt Dec 1824 Lambston, Pembroke, and Martha born abt 1832 St Martin, Haverfordwest, Pembroke. > > We also think that the generation before George and his siblings was Anne, Thomas (their father) , John, Stephen, Dorothy, William and David all born in Narberth, Pembroke. > > Does anyone connect with this family, as we would love to find out more. > > Many thanks > Jan in NZ > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Genuki Wales > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ > >

Was wondering of any members of this list has access to Pigots 1830 Directory of South Wales? Am searching for Aubrey/Awbrey/Obray names who lived in Neath, Haverfordwest, Pembroke and Milford Haven. Thanks, Craig

Dear Listers I have just joined this list, in the hope of finding anyone else who is researching the GOODRIDGE family name. My husband's Grandmother was Sarah Ann Goodridge and her father was Grosvenor William Munroe Goodridge(born 23 Jan 1851) who we think married Sarah Jane James. We believe that Grosvenor's father was George Goodridge born abt Feb 1825 in Lambston, Pembroke. George we think married Eleanor ?. George had siblings John born abt Jan 1803 Llangwm, Pembroke, David born abt 1815 Lambston, Pembroke, Frances born abt Dec 1824 Lambston, Pembroke, and Martha born abt 1832 St Martin, Haverfordwest, Pembroke. We also think that the generation before George and his siblings was Anne, Thomas (their father) , John, Stephen, Dorothy, William and David all born in Narberth, Pembroke. Does anyone connect with this family, as we would love to find out more. Many thanks Jan in NZ

Hi Jan, I have been searching part of your Goodridge i.e. Frances Goodridge born Lambston c1824 as part of Belt Family research. Contact me off list and we can exchange information Regards Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Jan-Alan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 08 January 2004 10:04 To: [email protected] Subject: [WLS-PEM] GOODRIDGE research Dear Listers I have just joined this list, in the hope of finding anyone else who is researching the GOODRIDGE family name. My husband's Grandmother was Sarah Ann Goodridge and her father was Grosvenor William Munroe Goodridge(born 23 Jan 1851) who we think married Sarah Jane James. We believe that Grosvenor's father was George Goodridge born abt Feb 1825 in Lambston, Pembroke. George we think married Eleanor ?. George had siblings John born abt Jan 1803 Llangwm, Pembroke, David born abt 1815 Lambston, Pembroke, Frances born abt Dec 1824 Lambston, Pembroke, and Martha born abt 1832 St Martin, Haverfordwest, Pembroke. We also think that the generation before George and his siblings was Anne, Thomas (their father) , John, Stephen, Dorothy, William and David all born in Narberth, Pembroke. Does anyone connect with this family, as we would love to find out more. Many thanks Jan in NZ ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/

Hi, Could I request of SKS with the 1861 census for a lookup please? I'd like to know what members of the HOWELL family where living at Nantgwyn Farm, Lanfairnantygof. Many thanks, Barry in Rainford, Lancs --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.559 / Virus Database: 351 - Release Date: 07/01/2004

Bettye, Thanks so much for all this fascinating information! Nice to know my interest in languages could potentially stem from distant foreign connections! Thanks also for the suggestions - I shall certainly look into the St Davids Probate Index sheets when I get a chance. Before I can do much with the COLES I need to find out my Hannah's parents. I see that there's apparently no Narberth index available from Dyfed FHS for her birthdate (approx 1785-1791) and I just wondered whether you or anyone else knew whether an index exists for this time? Or perhaps I can ask Pembrokeshire Record Office to do a 5-year search if they do that? Thanks again for all the help you've been able to give me, both with COLEs and MORGANs - my father was thrilled with his Christmas present including these details. Cate

Dear John, The Griffith Jenkins in the Narberth Hundred marriage index pre-1813 are as under: Griffith Jenkin 1765 Llanfallteg m. Margaret Lewis Griffith Jenkin 1775 Lampeter Velfrey m. Elizabeth Phillip Griffith Jenkins 1793 Begelly m. Martha Nash Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Spencer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Re: The Mote > Hi Kevin, > > One local MI from the area, Llanfallteg/Llandewi-velfrey. > > GRIFFITH JENKINS = ELIZABETH ? > Born c. 1774 Born c. 1787. > > Died 11 JUN 1839 (55) Died 14 AUG 1839 (52) > > Lived at Trevaughane Mill. > > Might be of interest. > > John Spencer. > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Dyfed FHS > http://www.dyfedfhs.org.uk/ >

For now, Griffith Jenkin remains unconnected to anyone I know, but he sounds like someone to keep an eye on. Pat's idea on The Mote sounds just right, though. I'm sorry it wasn't likely of any help to your Mote research. I don't have the marriage certificate you asked about, but the man with the Web site -- Shon Edwards -- has agreed to send me a copy when he returns from his extended vacation. According to his Web site, the address mentioned in the marriage certificate is at Penquerr, Ilston, West Glam. Family group sheet for one of the children later born in Llanelly lists the home at Cevencaiau at time of his birth, which I assume is Cefncaeau just east of Llanelly. James worked as a coal filler. What information are you hoping to get from the certificate? Thanks to everyone who responded. Even if nothing immediate comes of it, I'm grateful for everyone's interest in helping. Kevin Jenkins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus

Hello Bettye , Thank you so much for taking the time to post this. It is very interesting, one point that I noted about the mention of the Coles being from France. There is a family story (I know, we all have tons of these :-), that says our Phillips lot were from Brittany, but could have been the Cole side, or maybe both. Thanks again Bettye for posting this All the best Sue Martin