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    1. Fw: [WLS-PEM] Family History Network
    2. Martin and Helen Owen
    3. Hello John I only had the one reply to my message, as follows. Vee thinks it may be a subscription site, but the mail I received implies that it is free. Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vera Lowe" <[email protected]> To: "Martin and Helen Owen" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Family History Network > It may be a LDS website i.e. the Mormon church in Utah. I do not subscribe > to this site but I have some antecedents who emigrated in the 19th. c. with > the Mormons and it seems familiar. I did some research about them, so > learned a lot. You will probably have to pay a subscription. That is up to > you. I am not trying to put you off but I think this is what it is about. > Vee. > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 08/01/04

    01/17/2004 03:39:37
    1. Re: [WLS-PEM] Family History Network
    2. John Ball
    3. On 13 January, Martin Owen <[email protected]> wrote: I have just had an email inviting me to sign up for the Family History Network. They appear to be in Utah, USA. Bearing in mind some questionable experiences with other American agencies, directories and so on, has anyone heard of this, and is it any good? =================== Dear Martin, I don't recall seeing any replies on the List to your question about the 'Family History Network', possibly of Utah. Did you get a response off-list perhaps? If so, maybe you could forward it to the List so we can all learn something. Kind regards, John ---------------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, South Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/2004

    01/17/2004 12:22:37
    1. [WLS-PEM] EMAIL ADDRESS
    2. Len and Phyll Pearson
    3. Hello, Could someone tell me if the Pembroke Record Office has an email address please, or does it have to be snail-mail? Diolch yn Fawr Phyllis

    01/16/2004 04:47:20
    1. Re: [WLS-PEM] Royal Charley Sardis
    2. John Ball
    3. Jim Derbyshire [email protected] wrote: I have received a certificate which gives the Royal Charley, Sardis, Burton as the address of Henry Thomas in 1899. Does anybody know if this was a pub and does it still exist? =============== Dear Jim, Presumably the address is handwritten. Are you sure there isn't any other way of interpreting the "Royal Charley" part of the address on the certificate? If the writing is unclear, and you can scan the relevant section of the certificate, I'll be happy to attempt to interpret it if you send it to me (off list) attached to an e-mail. If the certificate is a modern handwritten copy from the local register office, you could ask the registrar if he/she could confirm the address. Kind regards, John ---------------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, South Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/2004

    01/16/2004 11:07:47
    1. Re: [WLS-PEM] Royal Charley Sardis
    2. Gerry
    3. on 16/1/04 1:40 am, Jim Derbyshire at [email protected] wrote: > I have received a certificate which gives the Royal Charley, Sardis, > Burton as the address of Henry Thomas in 1899. Does anybody know if this > was a pub and does it still exist? > > Many thanks > > Jane > > Ottawa Hello Jane This sounds an extremely unlikely name for a pub. There certainly isn't one of that name in the South West Wales telephone book, but perhaps someone with local knowledge could help. There was no habitation with anything like that name in the 1891 census. A 39 year old Henry Thomas was living at Hill Mountain, near Sardis, in the 1891 census. Gerry Lewis

    01/16/2004 10:28:44
    1. Re: [WLS-PEM] EMAIL ADDRESS
    2. Gareth
    3. Hi Phyllis From my Help Page (Archives) E-mail Archivist on [email protected] Gareth List administrator for DYFED, CGN & PEM Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Len and Phyll Pearson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:47 AM Subject: [WLS-PEM] EMAIL ADDRESS > Hello, > > Could someone tell me if the Pembroke Record Office has an email address please, or does it have to be snail-mail? > > Diolch yn Fawr > Phyllis > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Pembrokeshire Archives > email [email protected] > >

    01/16/2004 04:04:09
    1. [WLS-PEM] Royal Charley Sardis
    2. Jim Derbyshire
    3. I have received a certificate which gives the Royal Charley, Sardis, Burton as the address of Henry Thomas in 1899. Does anybody know if this was a pub and does it still exist? Many thanks Jane Ottawa

    01/15/2004 01:40:19
    1. [WLS-PEM] 1871 Census Info for Pembroke Dock, help required please!
    2. Booth, Anne
    3. Hello, I am a new subscriber and wonder if anyone out there could help me with some 1871 Census information. I have found the following family in the 1881 census and am trying to find them in 1871: Martin Tracey Head 43 Groom (8.1) Ireland Harriette Tracey Wife 36 Laundress Tunbridge Wells Alfred Tracey Son 15 Errand Boy London New Cross John Tracey Son 13 Errand Boy Dover Katherine Tracey Dau 10 Scholar Pembroke Dock, Wales Alice Tracey Dau 8 Scholar Aldershot, Hampshire James Tracey Son 6 Scholar Brecknock, Wales Hastings Tracey Son 4 Devonport, Devon Lucy Tracey Dau 2 Bristol Harry Tracey Son 7m Bristol Harry Fielding Boarder 23 Groom (8.1) Crediton, Devon and wonder if anyone would be able to locate them in the 1871 census, as it seems a child Katherine was born there around that time. Martin Tracey was my great great great grandfather and was in the army, moving around all over the place and is very hard to pin down! Also, does anyone know anything about army barracks in Pembroke Dock around 1871? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks Anne

    01/15/2004 11:31:19
    1. Re: [WLS-PEM] Levi/Baker
    2. BJ & LC Kirkwood
    3. Dear Pat, You've brought up some interesting thoughts here. Wonder if this has anything to do with the Phillips/Philipps of the banking family whose bank went "bust" in the mid 1800's. Maybe the Levis adopted the name because it was already well known. Some of my ancestors lost money here and I have some random records of the times, but I can't readily put my hands on them. I was prompted to look in Major Jones article on the Morris banking family of Carmarthenshire, for any connecting clues....and noted "The late Francis Green who had made a study of early banks in West Wales....." The reference given for Morris and the Carm. Bank is West Wales Historical Records VI, 144, so I wonder if this refers just to Morris, or to the study referred to. Francis Green wrote many interesting articles....do you or any other Lister know if there is a work on his study of banks? If there is one, it might clear up any confusion between the Levi and Levi-Phillips families. Bettye Kirkwood. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Powell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Levi/Baker > Hello Phyllis > > "Pembroke people" by Richard Rose has this extract:- > > "Mose and Samuel Levi, who may have originated in Frankfurt, came to > Haverfordwest in the 18th century.They became Christians and adopted the > surname of Phillips ........... > In 1778 Samuel Levi Phillips was described as a jeweller. > > It may be just a coincidence of names but I query whether or not Samuel > Levi, Silversmith, of Pembroke may have been a relative of Moses and > Samuel of Haverfordwest ...." > > > From the entry under Samuel Levi, Silversmith it seems that this is > "yours". Have you seen the entry? It mostly gives details from the two > wills which you already have. > > I developed an interest in these and have a copy of the will of Samuel > Levi Phillips - It is very unclear and I am still trying to decipher it. > > If you think we could exchange any info you can get back to me direct if > you like. > > Cheers > > Pat > > > > > In message <[email protected]>, Len and Phyll > Pearson <[email protected]> writes > >Hi, > > > >I'm new to the list. I live in New Zealand, although I am from Newport, Mon, > >originally. I have recently been sent the Wills of my GGGGG'grandparents. > >Samuel > >Levi, and Mary Levi, nee Blear. They lived in Pembroke, either Haverfordwest or > >St Mary's. The wills are date 1793[Samuel] and Mary's is 1805. > > > >In the Wills I see they have the following children:- > > > >George, he is mentioned only in his Father's Will. > >Samuel, he married Catherine Baker, they lived in Monmouthshire > >Mary, she m Thomas Makeig, of Scotland in the town of Cardigan > >Elizabeth, m John Mathias/Matthias of Haverfordwest > >Matilda m ? Gibbs. > > > >Other names mentioned are Captain Brooks, who 'occupies' a house in the 'Green > >Mill Pond' St Mary's Parish. The witnesses of Samuel's Will were > >Joshua Allen > >Thos. Woods > >John Rees > > > >Mary's Will has a lot more detail. In it she names her four remaining children > >and their spouses. She makes John Mathias/Matthias the trustees of her Will > >also. There is a house in St Michaels Parish, occupied by Jeremiah Phillips > >Tanner. The witnesses are > >Geo Bowling [Pembroke] > >Wm Jones, looks like Meicer, Pembroke. > >Mary Runwa or Kunwa Pembroke. > > > >Samuel is presumed to be a German Jew, he or his father came from Frankfurt am > >Main. He came with his brother Moses. Does anyone know of this family, the > >property/people mentioned, or have connections with them? > > > >Diolch yn Fawr > >Phyllis > > > >______________________________ > > -- > Pat Powell > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Gareth's Help Page > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html >

    01/15/2004 04:56:37
    1. Re: [WLS-PEM] MORGAN FAMILY
    2. marlena payne
    3. Hi Sue, got a bit excited when I saw the name Morgans, my connection with Morgans are through my G Grandmother Sophia Morgans born 1845 ? 1849 ?in Ambleston ST Dogwells 1851 Census. 1881 Census shows she is now living in Haycastle must have married in about 1878 to a Thomas Howell of Granston Dwelling: Tryllys y Cnwc Census Place: St Nicholas, Pembrokeshire Wales Source: FHL Film 1342306 Pro Ref RG11 Oiece 5424 Folio 94 Page 9 Thomas Howell m age 43 Granston Pembroke Sophia Howell ( formally Morgans ) age 32 Haycastle Pembroke David Howell age 4 Fishguard Pembroke William Howell age 3 Fishguard Pembroke Mary Ann Howell Age 8mth St Nicholas Pembroke James Morgan Howell my Grandfather born 8-1 1885 (meildy ) St Nicholas Fishguard no trace of above family on the 1891 Census, sorry I cannot help you but I thought I would post my message my knowledge of the Morgans family is nil hope I have not made a fool of myself, my Grandfather told me that his Mother died in childbirth ? if there is any connection out there with Sophia I would be grateful. Dyfed F.H.S. 3263 Glamorgan F.H.S 5881 Marlena

    01/15/2004 04:24:21
    1. [WLS-PEM] Re: Will of Thomas Makeig 1831
    2. BJ & LC Kirkwood
    3. Dear Ann & Phyllis, Thanks, Ann. This confirms Phyllis's statement that they had a son George born around 1805. What a pity the other children are not named. As Cardigan has been mentioned previously, perhaps their records are to be found in Cardiganshire. I know how difficult it is to read some of these old wills, but I am sure Thomas Makeig was at Parkypratt, St. Dogmaels towards the end of his life, and it is often written as "St. Dogmells" easily mistaken for that other Pemb. area St. Dogwells. Probably because he was ill, Thomas had his doctors sign his will, plus his servant....but, by so doing, he did not do us any favours. I wonder if he is the same Thomas Makeig who married Sarah Stone at Clydey June 13, 1793......Ann next time you visit The Nat. Library..I know it is asking a lot, but could you check this parish register marriage entry and obtain witness names. If Thomas Makeig signed the entry, his signature could be compared with that on the Will, bearing in mind his age difference and possible infirmity. Regards. Bettye K. ----- Original Message ----- From: Janetann Davies To: [email protected] ; BJ & LC Kirkwood ; Len and Phyll Pearson Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:02 AM Subject: Will of Thomas Makeig 1831 Sorry Phyllis if my "shorthand" baffled you---all that I meant was that I would go to the National Library of Wales this morning access the will and read it!! Which I have done.The details are--- Thomas Makeig St Dogwells 1838 Name of farm Panyprat Bequeaths all his property in Town and County of Haverfordwest to his son George The remainder to his wife Mary to be divided after her death between thier other children---not named Witnesses Thomas George Nugent ,Simon Davies ,both surgeons,Hetty Evans ,by mark, servant Hope this is of some value and maybe of general interest to you too Bettye Ann Davies in a threatening to snow Aberystwyth Wales

    01/15/2004 04:06:52
    1. Re: [WLS-PEM] Levi/Baker
    2. Dear Bettye & Phyllis The article on Welsh Banks referred to in West Wales Historical Records is by Francis Green. On Page 155 under The Haverfordwest Bank it states that it was founded by Samuel and Moses Levi. They were befriended by a Mr. Phillips of .... and whose surnamethey afterwards adopted. The article gives details of their descendants and the history of both the banks wwith which they were associated. For further information the West Wales Historical Records are available on CD from the Carmarthenshire FHS who place a restriction on their CDs which be used for other than personal research. I think that you, Bettye, in particular, would find this CD fascinating although you could obtain a photocopy of this article from the Pembrokeshire Record Office. Bye for now Joy

    01/14/2004 11:49:30
    1. Re: [WLS-PEM] Levi/Baker
    2. Hi Phyllis There is quite a lot about Jeremiah Phillips, Tanner on Page 423 of Pembroke People by Richard Rose. Bye for now Joy

    01/14/2004 12:57:43
    1. [WLS-PEM] More of my Pembrokeshire Connections..
    2. Hi All.Here are some more of my Connections.. Thomas HUMPHREYS married to Elizabeth LLEWELLIN at Cillgerran,Pembs;in 1794. Their Daughter Ann was born at Cillgerran about 1802.Need comfirmation,and any siblings please? Also,Is there any possibility of earlier connections of both Thomas HUMPHREYS and of Elizabeth LLEWELLIN.Or is anyone alive connected to them besides me? Thomas & Elizabeth HUMPHREYS great,grandson was Llewellyn Humphreys BOWEN[1857-1908]a "Ships Pilot"born/died at Cardiff.And he was my great,great,grandfather. Thanks,Graham. Graham Williams,Glam;FHS;#551 of Canton,Cardiff. "Seek and Ye shall Find!"

    01/14/2004 12:23:17
    1. [WLS-PEM] MORGAN FAMILY
    2. Susan Harvey
    3. Hi, I am tring to sort out the Morgan (s) who were born and Christened in Redberth around 1834. Lewis Morgan(s) married Rachel LEWIS ,of Laugharne born 1838 There seem to be two distinct families for which I can see no connection. Does anyone have knowledge of the MORGANS in Pembrokshire-- Particularly did they come from the South Wales Morgans or did they have very early roots 17th century back in West Wales. Are there any books or other resources that would help please? Does any Lister have an early census or Bishops transcript entry pre 1790 for MORGANS.? Any help or advice will be most appreciated as I am really stuck!! Best wishes, Sue in LLantrisant,Glam.*****************

    01/14/2004 11:29:21
    1. Re: [WLS-PEM] Levi/Baker
    2. Pat Powell
    3. Hello Phyllis "Pembroke people" by Richard Rose has this extract:- "Mose and Samuel Levi, who may have originated in Frankfurt, came to Haverfordwest in the 18th century.They became Christians and adopted the surname of Phillips ........... In 1778 Samuel Levi Phillips was described as a jeweller. It may be just a coincidence of names but I query whether or not Samuel Levi, Silversmith, of Pembroke may have been a relative of Moses and Samuel of Haverfordwest ...." From the entry under Samuel Levi, Silversmith it seems that this is "yours". Have you seen the entry? It mostly gives details from the two wills which you already have. I developed an interest in these and have a copy of the will of Samuel Levi Phillips - It is very unclear and I am still trying to decipher it. If you think we could exchange any info you can get back to me direct if you like. Cheers Pat In message <[email protected]>, Len and Phyll Pearson <[email protected]> writes >Hi, > >I'm new to the list. I live in New Zealand, although I am from Newport, Mon, >originally. I have recently been sent the Wills of my GGGGG'grandparents. >Samuel >Levi, and Mary Levi, nee Blear. They lived in Pembroke, either Haverfordwest or >St Mary's. The wills are date 1793[Samuel] and Mary's is 1805. > >In the Wills I see they have the following children:- > >George, he is mentioned only in his Father's Will. >Samuel, he married Catherine Baker, they lived in Monmouthshire >Mary, she m Thomas Makeig, of Scotland in the town of Cardigan >Elizabeth, m John Mathias/Matthias of Haverfordwest >Matilda m ? Gibbs. > >Other names mentioned are Captain Brooks, who 'occupies' a house in the 'Green >Mill Pond' St Mary's Parish. The witnesses of Samuel's Will were >Joshua Allen >Thos. Woods >John Rees > >Mary's Will has a lot more detail. In it she names her four remaining children >and their spouses. She makes John Mathias/Matthias the trustees of her Will >also. There is a house in St Michaels Parish, occupied by Jeremiah Phillips >Tanner. The witnesses are >Geo Bowling [Pembroke] >Wm Jones, looks like Meicer, Pembroke. >Mary Runwa or Kunwa Pembroke. > >Samuel is presumed to be a German Jew, he or his father came from Frankfurt am >Main. He came with his brother Moses. Does anyone know of this family, the >property/people mentioned, or have connections with them? > >Diolch yn Fawr >Phyllis > >______________________________ -- Pat Powell

    01/14/2004 08:44:07
    1. Re: [WLS-PEM] Levi/Baker
    2. BJ & LC Kirkwood
    3. Dear Phyllis, The Pembrokeshire marriage records, particularly for the Haverfordwest St. Mary area, do not show the Levi name in either male or female marriages pre-1837, but there are still clues from the information you provided. I have either corresponded with someone about the Makeig name, or have seen it on a document recently....so I'll give it some more thought. I did find that the Will of a Thomas Makeig of St. Dogmaels, Pembrokeshire, was proved in 1838 ....and Cardigan is close to St. Dogmaels. This led me to look in some random Land Tax records I have, and a "Mr. Mackeig" was apparently the tenant at Parkypratt, St. Dogmaels, in 1831. This property had long been owned by the Davies family, and at this time, Thomas Davies Esq. was proprietor. Unfortunately, Makeig would be dead before the 1841 census, but other family members may have settled close by. You may care to purchase his will on the offchance, or Thomas's death certificate, which is probably registered in the Cards. district. There are many John Mathias/Matthias in Pembrokeshire, so I have not culled him from the flock, but as far as Matilda's Gibbs husband is concerned, perhaps he was the Thomas Gibbs of St. Mary's Haverfordwest whose will was proved in 1819 or the John Gibbs of Cardigan whose will was proved in 1842. As to the witness names you mentioned, several of the surnames were prominent in Pembrokeshire, and Wm. Jones was probably a Mercer. Runwa was definitely a Pembrokeshire surname. If other Listers can't supply more accurate information, purchase of the will abstracts from Haverfordwest Records Office may give enough information for you to pursue the Makeig and Gibbs families further. Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. PS. Managed to catch this in Outbox before sending.....have just stumbled across a marriage record for Thomas Makeig June 13, 1793 to Sarah Stone at Clydey Pembrokeshire, so this Thomas might be son of Thomas. When did your Mary Levi marry Thomas Makeig? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Len and Phyll Pearson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:09 AM Subject: [WLS-PEM] Levi/Baker > Hi, > > I'm new to the list. I live in New Zealand, although I am from Newport, Mon, originally. I have recently been sent the Wills of my GGGGG'grandparents. Samuel Levi, and Mary Levi, nee Blear. They lived in Pembroke, either Haverfordwest or St Mary's. The wills are date 1793[Samuel] and Mary's is 1805. > > In the Wills I see they have the following children:- > > George, he is mentioned only in his Father's Will. > Samuel, he married Catherine Baker, they lived in Monmouthshire > Mary, she m Thomas Makeig, of Scotland in the town of Cardigan > Elizabeth, m John Mathias/Matthias of Haverfordwest > Matilda m ? Gibbs. > > Other names mentioned are Captain Brooks, who 'occupies' a house in the 'Green Mill Pond' St Mary's Parish. The witnesses of Samuel's Will were > Joshua Allen > Thos. Woods > John Rees > > Mary's Will has a lot more detail. In it she names her four remaining children and their spouses. She makes John Mathias/Matthias the trustees of her Will also. There is a house in St Michaels Parish, occupied by Jeremiah Phillips Tanner. The witnesses are > Geo Bowling [Pembroke] > Wm Jones, looks like Meicer, Pembroke. > Mary Runwa or Kunwa Pembroke. > > Samuel is presumed to be a German Jew, he or his father came from Frankfurt am Main. He came with his brother Moses. Does anyone know of this family, the property/people mentioned, or have connections with them? > > Diolch yn Fawr > Phyllis > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Pembrokeshire Archives > email [email protected] > >

    01/14/2004 07:24:34
    1. [WLS-PEM] Will of Thomas Makeig 1831
    2. Janetann Davies
    3. Sorry Phyllis if my "shorthand" baffled you---all that I meant was that I would go to the National Library of Wales this morning access the will and read it!! Which I have done.The details are--- Thomas Makeig St Dogwells 1838 Name of farm Panyprat Bequeaths all his property in Town and County of Haverfordwest to his son George The remainder to his wife Mary to be divided after her death between thier other children---not named Witnesses Thomas George Nugent ,Simon Davies ,both surgeons,Hetty Evans ,by mark, servant Hope this is of some value and maybe of general interest to you too Bettye Ann Davies in a threatening to snow Aberystwyth Wales

    01/14/2004 07:02:55
    1. [WLS-PEM] Levi/Baker
    2. Len and Phyll Pearson
    3. Hi, I'm new to the list. I live in New Zealand, although I am from Newport, Mon, originally. I have recently been sent the Wills of my GGGGG'grandparents. Samuel Levi, and Mary Levi, nee Blear. They lived in Pembroke, either Haverfordwest or St Mary's. The wills are date 1793[Samuel] and Mary's is 1805. In the Wills I see they have the following children:- George, he is mentioned only in his Father's Will. Samuel, he married Catherine Baker, they lived in Monmouthshire Mary, she m Thomas Makeig, of Scotland in the town of Cardigan Elizabeth, m John Mathias/Matthias of Haverfordwest Matilda m ? Gibbs. Other names mentioned are Captain Brooks, who 'occupies' a house in the 'Green Mill Pond' St Mary's Parish. The witnesses of Samuel's Will were Joshua Allen Thos. Woods John Rees Mary's Will has a lot more detail. In it she names her four remaining children and their spouses. She makes John Mathias/Matthias the trustees of her Will also. There is a house in St Michaels Parish, occupied by Jeremiah Phillips Tanner. The witnesses are Geo Bowling [Pembroke] Wm Jones, looks like Meicer, Pembroke. Mary Runwa or Kunwa Pembroke. Samuel is presumed to be a German Jew, he or his father came from Frankfurt am Main. He came with his brother Moses. Does anyone know of this family, the property/people mentioned, or have connections with them? Diolch yn Fawr Phyllis

    01/14/2004 05:09:55
    1. Re: [WLS-PEM] Levi/Baker
    2. Janetann Davies
    3. Hi Bettye and Hello Phyllis As it happens I am off to the NLW this morning so will check out /readthe will you mention and forward the details. Speak soon Ann D in Aber ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJ & LC Kirkwood" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:24 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Levi/Baker > Dear Phyllis, > > The Pembrokeshire marriage records, particularly for the Haverfordwest St. > Mary area, do not show the Levi name in either male or female marriages > pre-1837, but there are still clues from the information you provided. > > I have either corresponded with someone about the Makeig > name, or have seen it on a document recently....so I'll give it some more > thought. I did find that the Will of a Thomas Makeig of St. Dogmaels, > Pembrokeshire, was proved in 1838 ....and Cardigan is > close to St. Dogmaels. This led me to look in some random Land Tax records > I have, and a "Mr. Mackeig" was apparently the tenant at Parkypratt, St. > Dogmaels, in 1831. This property had long been owned by the Davies family, > and at this time, Thomas Davies Esq. was proprietor. Unfortunately, Makeig > would be dead before the 1841 census, but other family members may have > settled close by. You may care to purchase his will on the offchance, or > Thomas's death certificate, which is probably registered in the Cards. > district. > > There are many John Mathias/Matthias in Pembrokeshire, so I have not culled > him from the flock, but as far as Matilda's Gibbs husband is concerned, > perhaps he was the Thomas Gibbs of St. Mary's Haverfordwest whose will was > proved in 1819 or the John Gibbs of Cardigan whose will was proved in 1842. > > As to the witness names you mentioned, several of the surnames were > prominent in Pembrokeshire, and Wm. Jones was probably a Mercer. Runwa was > definitely a Pembrokeshire surname. > > If other Listers can't supply more accurate information, purchase of the > will abstracts from Haverfordwest Records Office may give enough information > for you to pursue the Makeig and Gibbs families further. > > Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. > > PS. Managed to catch this in Outbox before sending.....have just stumbled > across a marriage record for Thomas Makeig June 13, 1793 to Sarah Stone at > Clydey Pembrokeshire, so this Thomas might be son of Thomas. > When did your Mary Levi marry Thomas Makeig? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Len and Phyll Pearson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:09 AM > Subject: [WLS-PEM] Levi/Baker > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm new to the list. I live in New Zealand, although I am from Newport, > Mon, originally. I have recently been sent the Wills of my > GGGGG'grandparents. Samuel Levi, and Mary Levi, nee Blear. They lived in > Pembroke, either Haverfordwest or St Mary's. The wills are date 1793[Samuel] > and Mary's is 1805. > > > > In the Wills I see they have the following children:- > > > > George, he is mentioned only in his Father's Will. > > Samuel, he married Catherine Baker, they lived in Monmouthshire > > Mary, she m Thomas Makeig, of Scotland in the town of Cardigan > > Elizabeth, m John Mathias/Matthias of Haverfordwest > > Matilda m ? Gibbs. > > > > Other names mentioned are Captain Brooks, who 'occupies' a house in the > 'Green Mill Pond' St Mary's Parish. The witnesses of Samuel's Will were > > Joshua Allen > > Thos. Woods > > John Rees > > > > Mary's Will has a lot more detail. In it she names her four remaining > children and their spouses. She makes John Mathias/Matthias the trustees of > her Will also. There is a house in St Michaels Parish, occupied by Jeremiah > Phillips Tanner. The witnesses are > > Geo Bowling [Pembroke] > > Wm Jones, looks like Meicer, Pembroke. > > Mary Runwa or Kunwa Pembroke. > > > > Samuel is presumed to be a German Jew, he or his father came from > Frankfurt am Main. He came with his brother Moses. Does anyone know of this > family, the property/people mentioned, or have connections with them? > > > > Diolch yn Fawr > > Phyllis > > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Pembrokeshire Archives > > email [email protected] > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Welsh Family History Archive http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm >

    01/14/2004 02:27:13