on 18/1/04 1:48 am, Sean Farrell at [email protected] wrote: > Hi There, > Having spent a fruitless day at the Family Record Centre in London searching > for two separate SULLIVAN families in the 1851,1861 and 1871 census' (censusi) > (with limited results in the 1871) I was hoping SKS could look up in the 1851 > and/or 1861 and could save me from the experience again. Both families are > headed by Cornelius SULLIVAN, both are from Ireland and are probably listed as > labourers. One lot is in either Pembroke Dock or St. Mary's, the other is in > St. Michaels, Pembroke; this Cornelius is married to Julia. > I did find a James SULLIVAN in a poor house in Pembroke in 1851 but I don't > think he's one of mine. > Many thanks > Sean Farrell Hello Sean I don't know what prompted me to look up SALIVAN, having had no success with Sullivan, but I found a Corls. Salivan aged 34 from County Kerry, Ireland in the 1851 index of the Pembroke Enumeration District, reference: HO107/2476, Pembroke St.Michael, folio 321, page 21, schedule 69 I checked Sullivan again and found the following person with the same reference: Talic(?) Sullivan(?), 21, born County Kerry, Ireland Perhaps "Talic" is an interpretation of a very badly written "Julia". How can Cornelius be heading up two separate Sullivan families - or shouldn't I ask? :-) Or were there two Corneliuses? Gerry Lewis

Dear Listers, I have just uploaded the six 'Retrospective Images of Wales' features scheduled for the next three weeks. The details are as follows: 1. The former coalmining village of Nantyglo, Monmouthshire. This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in February 1999 (six photos). 2. The town of Aberystwyth, Cardiganshire. This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in June 1999 (twelve photos). 3. The village of Alltwen, near Pontardawe, Glamorgan. This two-page feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in July 1998 (seventeen photos). 4. The parish church at Manordeifi, Pembrokeshire (photography by Gerwyn Williams). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in October 2000 (nine photos). 5. The parish church of St Bilo, Llanfilo, Breconshire. This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in August 1998 (six photos). 6. A selection of Public Houses in various locations in South and West Wales. This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in February 1998 (nine photos). To view my Retrospective webpages, go to http://home.clara.net/wfha/walespic/retro/retro.htm Enjoy!! The next upload of Retrospectives will take place on 14th February. Best wishes, John ---------------------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, South Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/ Welsh Family History Archive (WFHA): http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/2004

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mail Delivery System" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 5:44 AM Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. > > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its > recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: > > [email protected] > SMTP error from remote mailer after initial connection: > host mailin-01.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.89]: 554-(RLY:B2) The information presently available to AOL indicates this > 554-server is transmitting unsolicited e-mail to AOL. Based on AOL's > 554-Unsolicited Bulk E-mail policy at http://www.aol.com/info/bulkemail.html > 554-AOL cannot accept further e-mail transactions from this server. > 554-Please have your ISP/ASP or server admin call AOL at 1-888-212-5537, > 554 or visit http://postmaster.info.aol.com for mo > > ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------ > > Return-path: <[email protected]> > Received: from [80.45.177.227] (port=3057 helo=SUSAN) > by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.24) > id 1Aiogd-0006UO-OZ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 05:44:27 +0000 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > From: "Susan Harvey" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > References: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] MORGAN FAMILY > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 05:45:43 -0000 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > > Bill,Many thanks for mail . > Will try marriage index, > Regards > Sue > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 6:26 PM > Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] MORGAN FAMILY > > > > In a message dated 14/01/04 18:29:51 GMT Standard Time, > [email protected] > > writes: > > > > > Hi, I am tring to sort out the Morgan (s) who were born and Christened > in > > > Redberth around 1834. > > > > > > Lewis Morgan(s) married Rachel LEWIS ,of Laugharne born 1838 > > > > > > There seem to be two distinct families for which I can see no > connection. > > > > > > Does anyone have knowledge of the MORGANS in Pembrokshire-- Particularly > > > did they come from the South Wales Morgans or did they have very early > roots > > > 17th century back in West Wales. > > > Are there any books or other resources that would help please? > > > > > > Does any Lister have an early census or Bishops transcript entry pre > 1790 > > > for MORGANS.? > > > > > > Any help or advice will be most appreciated as I am really stuck!! > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Sue in LLantrisant,Glam.***************** > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sue, > > > > I am afraid one cannot assume all the Pembrokeshire MORGAN(S) were > related. > > > > I have MORGAN ancestors in Mathry certainly back before 1750, but they had > > cousins in Bristol. I don't know where their common forebears came from. > > > > My first cousin (five times removed) George LLOYD of Penfeidr, Newport, > > married Martha, daughter of James MORGAN(S) of Ambleston in 1800. - This > family > > might relate to Marlena's G Grandmother Sophia. > > > > There are several MORGAN wills and admons for Pembrokeshire pre-1800. > > > > There are also MORGAN references in Historic Houses of Pembrokeshire by > > Francis Jones. > > > > > > You ask about early census entries for MORGAN(S) - there are no census > > records surviving from before 1841. As to BTs, you might do better to > look at the > > Dyfed FHS fiches of pre-1813 marriages to see where MORGANs crop up. > > > > Regards > > Bill G-J > > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Welsh Family History Archive > http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm > > >

Bill,Many thanks for mail . Will try marriage index, Regards Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] MORGAN FAMILY > In a message dated 14/01/04 18:29:51 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] > writes: > > > Hi, I am tring to sort out the Morgan (s) who were born and Christened in > > Redberth around 1834. > > > > Lewis Morgan(s) married Rachel LEWIS ,of Laugharne born 1838 > > > > There seem to be two distinct families for which I can see no connection. > > > > Does anyone have knowledge of the MORGANS in Pembrokshire-- Particularly > > did they come from the South Wales Morgans or did they have very early roots > > 17th century back in West Wales. > > Are there any books or other resources that would help please? > > > > Does any Lister have an early census or Bishops transcript entry pre 1790 > > for MORGANS.? > > > > Any help or advice will be most appreciated as I am really stuck!! > > > > Best wishes, > > Sue in LLantrisant,Glam.***************** > > > > > > Hi Sue, > > I am afraid one cannot assume all the Pembrokeshire MORGAN(S) were related. > > I have MORGAN ancestors in Mathry certainly back before 1750, but they had > cousins in Bristol. I don't know where their common forebears came from. > > My first cousin (five times removed) George LLOYD of Penfeidr, Newport, > married Martha, daughter of James MORGAN(S) of Ambleston in 1800. - This family > might relate to Marlena's G Grandmother Sophia. > > There are several MORGAN wills and admons for Pembrokeshire pre-1800. > > There are also MORGAN references in Historic Houses of Pembrokeshire by > Francis Jones. > > > You ask about early census entries for MORGAN(S) - there are no census > records surviving from before 1841. As to BTs, you might do better to look at the > Dyfed FHS fiches of pre-1813 marriages to see where MORGANs crop up. > > Regards > Bill G-J > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Welsh Family History Archive http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm >

In a message dated 14/01/04 18:29:51 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Hi, I am tring to sort out the Morgan (s) who were born and Christened in > Redberth around 1834. > > Lewis Morgan(s) married Rachel LEWIS ,of Laugharne born 1838 > > There seem to be two distinct families for which I can see no connection. > > Does anyone have knowledge of the MORGANS in Pembrokshire-- Particularly > did they come from the South Wales Morgans or did they have very early roots > 17th century back in West Wales. > Are there any books or other resources that would help please? > > Does any Lister have an early census or Bishops transcript entry pre 1790 > for MORGANS.? > > Any help or advice will be most appreciated as I am really stuck!! > > Best wishes, > Sue in LLantrisant,Glam.***************** > > Hi Sue, I am afraid one cannot assume all the Pembrokeshire MORGAN(S) were related. I have MORGAN ancestors in Mathry certainly back before 1750, but they had cousins in Bristol. I don't know where their common forebears came from. My first cousin (five times removed) George LLOYD of Penfeidr, Newport, married Martha, daughter of James MORGAN(S) of Ambleston in 1800. - This family might relate to Marlena's G Grandmother Sophia. There are several MORGAN wills and admons for Pembrokeshire pre-1800. There are also MORGAN references in Historic Houses of Pembrokeshire by Francis Jones. You ask about early census entries for MORGAN(S) - there are no census records surviving from before 1841. As to BTs, you might do better to look at the Dyfed FHS fiches of pre-1813 marriages to see where MORGANs crop up. Regards Bill G-J

Hi Bill, its Marlena I just had to email you, just read your reply to Sue and saw my name, if there is a connection with Sophia I would be over the moon I only found out her name about two years ago. My Grandfather told me his Mother died in childbirth I was very young myself I so wish I had asked him more. I only had a Form of Requisition For a Certificate of Birth to go on, before that I never knew where he was born or who is Mum and Dad were, if you think there just might be a connection please would you contact me. Many Thanks Marlena

I said tongue in cheek in my last mail that I was not sure if the info was a help or a hindrance--the way that it appeared was gibberish!!So here is another attempt 1851 Clydey---this is how it appears in Census Bwlch y Groes David Elias 54 Labourer Anna " 53 wife Ann " 28 John " ? all born in Parish of Clydey Llandygwyd Cnwc Rachel Elias 91 Widow pauper b Llandygwyd Mary " 20 Grandau. dressmaker Clydey 1841 Clydey Bwlch y Groes David Elias 45 Ag Lab Hannah " 44 Hannah 14 John 10 Thomas 6 Llandygwyd Farm servant Tyngallt Ann Elias 15 Hope this reads more sensibly than the last that landed in you inbox Ann D in Aber

I said tounge in cheek that I wasn't sure if this info would help or hinder!! The way it appears in my last mail makes it gibberish--so here it is again! Sorry about the first attempt!! 1851 Census Clydau(Clydey in record) Bwlch y Groes David Elias 54 Labourer Anna " 53 wife Ann " 28 John " ? All were born in parish of Clydey Llandygwyd(dd) Cnwc Rachel Elias 91 widow pauper b Llandygwyd Mary " 20 grandau. dressmaker Clydey 1841 Census Clydey Bwlch y Groes David Elias 45 Ag Lab Hannah " 44 Hannah " 14 John " 10 Thomas " 6 Llandygwyd Farm servant in Tyngallt---Anne Elias 15 Ann D in Aber

In a message dated 14/01/04 18:29:51 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Hi, I am tring to sort out the Morgan (s) who were born and Christened in > Redberth around 1834. > > Lewis Morgan(s) married Rachel LEWIS ,of Laugharne born 1838 > > There seem to be two distinct families for which I can see no connection. > > Does anyone have knowledge of the MORGANS in Pembrokshire-- Particularly > did they come from the South Wales Morgans or did they have very early roots > 17th century back in West Wales. > Are there any books or other resources that would help please? > > Does any Lister have an early census or Bishops transcript entry pre 1790 > for MORGANS.? > > Any help or advice will be most appreciated as I am really stuck!! > > Best wishes, > Sue in LLantrisant,Glam.***************** > > Hi Sue, I am afraid one cannot assume all the Pembrokeshire MORGAN(S) were related. I have MORGAN ancestors in Mathry certainly back before 1750, but they had cousins in Bristol. I don't know where their common forebears came from. My first cousin (five times removed) George LLOYD of Penfeidr, Newport, married Martha, daughter of James MORGAN(S) of Ambleston in 1800. - This family might relate to Marlena's G Grandmother Sophia. There are several MORGAN wills and admons for Pembrokeshire pre-1800. There are also MORGAN references in Historic Houses of Pembrokeshire by Francis Jones. You ask about early census entries for MORGAN(S) - there are no census records surviving from before 1841. As to BTs, you might do better to look at the Dyfed FHS fiches of pre-1813 marriages to see where MORGANs crop up. Regards Bill G-J

Ann, Bettye, et al., The witness Simon Davies may have been a surgeon - but he was also Thomas' son-in-law, I suspect. Mary Makeig married Simon Davies of Penbryn on 16 April 1829 at St Dogmaels. Witnesses John Makeig, Benjamin Makeig, William Griffiths. There were some other probable children of Thomas in the St Dogmaels registers: Jane Makeig married John Williams by licence on 31 aug 1823 Witnesses Thomas Nugent, Elizabeth Makeig, Mary Makeig (so maybe Thomas Nugent was a relation too) Esther daughter of David Makeig and <blank>, druggist, Cardigan, baptised 5 may 1831 Regards Bill G-J In a message dated 14/01/04 14:03:10 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Sorry Phyllis if my "shorthand" baffled you---all that I meant was that I > would go to the National Library of Wales this morning access the will and > read it!! Which I have done.The details are--- > > Thomas Makeig St Dogwells 1838 > Name of farm Panyprat > Bequeaths all his property in Town and County of Haverfordwest to his son > George The remainder to his wife Mary to be divided after her death between > thier other children---not named > Witnesses Thomas George Nugent ,Simon Davies ,both surgeons,Hetty Evans ,by > mark, servant > > > Hope this is of some value and maybe of general interest to you too Bettye > Ann Davies in a threatening to snow Aberystwyth Wales > >

Hello--been doing a bit of searching in NLW and found the following 1851 Census Clydau Llandygwydd Bwlch y Groes Cnwc David Elias 54 Labourer Rachel Elias widow 91 Pauper b Llandygwydd Anna " 53 wife MAry " granda 20 dressmaker b Clydau Ann " 28 John " 14 all born in Parish of Clydau 1841 Census Clydau Llandygwydd Bwlch y Groes Farm servant in Tyngallt Ann Elias 15 David Elias 45 Ag Lab Hannah " 43 Hannah " 14 John 10 Thomas 6 Don't know if this helps or hinders your searches Heulwen--but these are the only Eliases that I could find Seem to be the same as the wedding details that you found Bettye Best wishes Ann D in Aber ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJ & LC Kirkwood" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:24 PM Subject: [WLS-PEM] Re: [Dyfed] 1841 & 1851 Census Clydau, Pembs. > Dear Heulwen, > > I don't have census records, but looked in the pre-1813 marriages for Clydey > back to about 1750's and did not find the Elias name. However, on June 12, > 1783 an Evan ELIPHAS of Llanfyrnach married Rachel David at Clydey......a > surname I've never encountered previously. > > I also noted that a David Elias of "Llandygwy" married Hanna Howel at Clydau > on 9th. July, 1818. If you don't have any luck in Clydey, you could try > Llandygwydd, Cardiganshire. > > Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "HJ" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 2:45 AM > Subject: [Dyfed] 1841 & 1851 Census Clydau, Pembs. > > > > Does anyone please have access to these Census? > > I'm looking for - 1841 1851 > > Joshua ELIAS abt.33 43 > > Anna poss. dead, new wife Sarah > > William 6 > 16 > > John D. 2or7 > 12/17 > > Mary 1 > 11 > > Timothy > 10 > > Hannah > 6 > > Elizabeth > 5 > > Ann > 1 > > > > Many thanks > > Heulwen > > > > > > ==== DYFED Mailing List ==== > > Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ > > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Pembrokeshire Archives > email [email protected]

Dear Heulwen, I don't have census records, but looked in the pre-1813 marriages for Clydey back to about 1750's and did not find the Elias name. However, on June 12, 1783 an Evan ELIPHAS of Llanfyrnach married Rachel David at Clydey......a surname I've never encountered previously. I also noted that a David Elias of "Llandygwy" married Hanna Howel at Clydau on 9th. July, 1818. If you don't have any luck in Clydey, you could try Llandygwydd, Cardiganshire. Bettye Kirkwood, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "HJ" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 2:45 AM Subject: [Dyfed] 1841 & 1851 Census Clydau, Pembs. > Does anyone please have access to these Census? > I'm looking for - 1841 1851 > Joshua ELIAS abt.33 43 > Anna poss. dead, new wife Sarah > William 6 16 > John D. 2or7 12/17 > Mary 1 11 > Timothy 10 > Hannah 6 > Elizabeth 5 > Ann 1 > > Many thanks > Heulwen > > > ==== DYFED Mailing List ==== > Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ >

It's working ! Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "JANETANN DAVIES" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 7:39 PM Subject: [WLS-PEM] sorry about this but just testing > had a bit of trouble in the change from Bt to Btyahoo so checking out various postings > Ann in Aber > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Welsh Family History Archive http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm

had a bit of trouble in the change from Bt to Btyahoo so checking out various postings Ann in Aber

Hello Sean No Cornelius Sullivan in Pembroke Town.Dock or surrounding district in 1841 - but there are 4 in Glamorgan in 1841. Can you give me more information so that I can identify the most likely? Age, occupation, wife, children - any or all of these or anything elde would help. Cheers Pat In message <[email protected]>, Sean Farrell <[email protected]> writes >Hi There, >Having spent a fruitless day at the Family Record Centre in London searching for >two separate SULLIVAN families in the 1851,1861 and 1871 census' (censusi) (with >limited results in the 1871) I was hoping SKS could look up in the 1851 and/or >1861 and could save me from the experience again. Both families are headed by >Cornelius SULLIVAN, both are from Ireland and are probably listed as labourers. >One lot is in either Pembroke Dock or St. Mary's, the other is in St. Michaels, >Pembroke; this Cornelius is married to Julia. >I did find a James SULLIVAN in a poor house in Pembroke in 1851 but I don't >think he's one of mine. >Many thanks >Sean Farrell > -- Pat Powell

Does anyone please have access to these Census? I'm looking for - 1841 1851 Joshua ELIAS abt.33 43 Anna poss. dead, new wife Sarah William 6 16 John D. 2or7 12/17 Mary 1 11 Timothy 10 Hannah 6 Elizabeth 5 Ann 1 Many thanks Heulwen

Hi There, Having spent a fruitless day at the Family Record Centre in London searching for two separate SULLIVAN families in the 1851,1861 and 1871 census' (censusi) (with limited results in the 1871) I was hoping SKS could look up in the 1851 and/or 1861 and could save me from the experience again. Both families are headed by Cornelius SULLIVAN, both are from Ireland and are probably listed as labourers. One lot is in either Pembroke Dock or St. Mary's, the other is in St. Michaels, Pembroke; this Cornelius is married to Julia. I did find a James SULLIVAN in a poor house in Pembroke in 1851 but I don't think he's one of mine. Many thanks Sean Farrell

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Dear Listers, I have discovered the origin of the 'Family History Network' e-mail received by Martin Owen (see earlier correspondence copied below). The e-mail inviting Martin to subscribe was from Everton Publishers Inc. of Logan, Utah 84323-0368 USA. The company website describes the Family History Network thus: ---------------------- The Family History Network (FHN) is all about making connections. We can connect you with the people and organizations who are ready and able to assist you in your family history quest. From professionals, societies, authors and consultants to cousins-FHN puts a wealth of knowledge and experience at your fingertips. We are anxious to help you find your family! ---------------------- Subscription costs $49.95 per year. Further details are on the company website at http://old.everton.com/network/index.php The company has no apparent connection with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS). Having now viewed the Everton website, I see no reason to change my original advice to Martin to use his Delete button! Kind regards, John ---------------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, South Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ball" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Family History Network Martin Owen <[email protected]> wrote: I only had the one reply to my message, as follows [copied below]. Vee thinks it may be a subscription site, but the mail I received implies that it is free. =================== Dear Martin, Thank you for responding. A Google search failed to find anything specifically about the phrase 'Family History Network' used as the name of an organisation. I found a link to "InfoBase's Family History Network" but clicking on the link redirected me to Ancestry.com In the mail you received inviting you to sign up, was the exact phrase "Family History Network" used as the title of the service? Was a website URL quoted? My feeling is that your 'Family History Network' has no real connection with the LDS church. To the best of my knowledge, one only has to subscribe to the LDS Family Search website in order to use the Pedigree Resource File and share information through "e-mail collaboration lists". See www.familysearch.org/ Unless you obtain proof of the legitimacy of the 'Family History Network' my advice is to use your delete button! Kind regards, John ---------------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, South Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vera Lowe" <[email protected]> To: "Martin and Helen Owen" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Family History Network It may be a LDS website i.e. the Mormon church in Utah. I do not subscribe to this site but I have some antecedents who emigrated in the 19th. c. with the Mormons and it seems familiar. I did some research about them, so learned a lot. You will probably have to pay a subscription. That is up to you. I am not trying to put you off but I think this is what it is about. Vee. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/2004

Martin Owen <[email protected]> wrote: I only had the one reply to my message, as follows [copied below]. Vee thinks it may be a subscription site, but the mail I received implies that it is free. =================== Dear Martin, Thank you for responding. A Google search failed to find anything specifically about the phrase 'Family History Network' used as the name of an organisation. I found a link to "InfoBase's Family History Network" but clicking on the link redirected me to Ancestry.com In the mail you received inviting you to sign up, was the exact phrase "Family History Network" used as the title of the service? Was a website URL quoted? My feeling is that your 'Family History Network' has no real connection with the LDS church. To the best of my knowledge, one only has to subscribe to the LDS Family Search website in order to use the Pedigree Resource File and share information through "e-mail collaboration lists". See www.familysearch.org/ Unless you obtain proof of the legitimacy of the 'Family History Network' my advice is to use your delete button! Kind regards, John ---------------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, South Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vera Lowe" <[email protected]> To: "Martin and Helen Owen" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Family History Network It may be a LDS website i.e. the Mormon church in Utah. I do not subscribe to this site but I have some antecedents who emigrated in the 19th. c. with the Mormons and it seems familiar. I did some research about them, so learned a lot. You will probably have to pay a subscription. That is up to you. I am not trying to put you off but I think this is what it is about. Vee. ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== Dyfed FHS http://www.dyfedfhs.org.uk/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/2004