Not sure if I am a very nice person--!!--but here they are in 1891 LLanychaer Mill Samuel Thomas 45 miller b Llanychaer Maria " 30 wife " Martha " 14 dau " William " 11 son " Thomas " 7 " " David " 1 " " Henry " 2 mnths " " Happy hunting Ann D in Aber ----- Original Message ----- From: "davidmel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 8:03 PM Subject: [WLS-PEM] 1891 look up for Llanychaer please? > can some very nice person have a look for the following on the 1891 census for Llanychaer Pembs please> > > Samuel Thomas - born abt 1846 in Llanychaer residing at The Mill - or Y Felin, Llanychaer > > hopefully with a wife called Maria! > > I have him on 1881 census - with 4 children (one of which is my gt grandmother) but with a wife called Harriet - I believe she died and Sam and Maria went on to have more children together! > > Many many thanks! > Melanie > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Gareth's Help Page > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html

can some very nice person have a look for the following on the 1891 census for Llanychaer Pembs please> Samuel Thomas - born abt 1846 in Llanychaer residing at The Mill - or Y Felin, Llanychaer hopefully with a wife called Maria! I have him on 1881 census - with 4 children (one of which is my gt grandmother) but with a wife called Harriet - I believe she died and Sam and Maria went on to have more children together! Many many thanks! Melanie

http://www.johngareth.freeserve.co.uk/Waun/Waun.html I've been expanding the picture gallery on this theoretically local village site in Llangiwg, Gla, spilling over into the Amman Valley/Pontardawe/Ystalyfera 'triangle' - now totals 422 items. Have quite a collection of embroidered greetings cards from the WWI era (under Memorabilia) Also a few unusual non-local historic items under Miscellaneous. I'm happy to expand the latter section should anyone without a site want a showcase for some special treasure that would be of general interest to others. Don't worry about the non obvious site, google et al will pick them up soon enough. Gareth List administrator for DYFED, CGN & PEM Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html .

My father has just informed me (after months of interegation where he claimed to know nothing!) that one of my CORNOCK ancestors was imprisoned for his religious beliefs - he thinks late 1700's early 1800's I have a William born 1803 his father was David/Dafydd who lived between Scelddau and Lettertstone (I have not traced family futher back than there yet!) Can some wise kind soul advise me WHERE I might find out whether this info is correct or just "family gossip"! - and where I can now lock my father as he seems to be remembering things (he's 70) regards Melanie

Hi Lea It's Llangiwg parish in Glamorgan, spelled in English, Llanguick(e). See this Genuki page for more details of the parish http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Llangiwg/ Gallynag would be the farm name etc, and is possibly Gellyneg, not that I know it particularly. I have some Llangiwg material if you want to try me with a lookup. Gareth List administrator for DYFED, CGN & PEM Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html . ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 2:55 AM Subject: [WLS-PEM] James of Gallynag, Lanquick, G, Wales. Where? > > I thought I'd try to find some information about a Welsh line of mine that I > have never researched, but I don't recognize the place and so don't know what > list it would be on. I probably copied them wrong years ago. Does anyone > recognize these places or have any idea where they might have been had I > spelled them correctly? Thank you, Lea > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Genuki PEM > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/ > >

I have a James Phillips born about 1835 in Johnston, who appears in the 1851 census as a blacksmith's apprentice. I have information on some of his antecedents, but nothing more after 1851, Myra Heywood > Hullo all, > I am trying to trace my ancestors in Pembrokeshire and hope that someone might be able to shed some light on the families I am looking for : James Phillips a blacksmith probably in Pembroke > Dock, married to Elizabeth (Lewis?). living at 33,Lower Pennar. Saint Mary in 1883............

on 22/2/04 11:44 am, [email protected] at [email protected] wrote: > Can any lister help me trace my wife's Gt Grandmother's ancestry. John > Davies was born in 1831. His father Charles in the 1841 census was shown as > living in Third Street (now Robert St) Milford Haven - occupation butcher. I > have Jane as being born c.1833. > > I assume that John married Jane circa early 1850s. Their children and birth > years are: > > James 1855 > Charles 1862 > William Lewis 1867 > Caroline 1869 > Alice 1869 > George 1871 > Albert 1874 > > Can anyone shed any light on John's wife JANE and her ancestry. > > If there is any lister who can help I will be very grateful. > > Henry Johnston > Pembrokeshire > Hello Henry Any one of the children's birth certificates will give their mother's maiden name. Armed with that information you should be able to find John and Jane's marriage certificate which will give both their fathers' names. The gap between James (1855) and Charles (1862) may indicate that John's marriage to Jane might have been his second. Gerry Lewis

I thought I'd try to find some information about a Welsh line of mine that I have never researched, but I don't recognize the place and so don't know what list it would be on. I probably copied them wrong years ago. Does anyone recognize these places or have any idea where they might have been had I spelled them correctly? Thank you, Lea

Dear List, I'm back on the trail of my elusive Pembrokeshire ancestors: 1) William JENKINS married Maria WATTS in Haverfordwest in 1823. They moved to Tredegar, Mon. in about 1825/6 where their son James - my direct ancestor - was born. William was a shoemaker/cordwainer born in Haverfordwest in the early 1800s(according to the census) and Maria is said to have been born in Fishguard in the late 1790s although I have found no information about either of their births as yet - I thought that finding a Maria Watts would be easy compared to trying to identify a Mary Jones! 2) David MORRIS, born in 'Pembrokeshire' per the Monmouthshire 1851 census - no more detail is given - married Mary (nee MORRIS, b. 'Cardiganshire') between about 1825 and 1830. No suitable marriage of a David MORRIS to a Mary MORRIS has been found anywhere in Wales, nor do I appear to have much chance of finding their births sometime in the first decade of the 19th century with just their counties of birth. Any suggestions are therefore welcome. Best wishes James Phillips-Evans

Hullo all, I am trying to trace my ancestors in Pembrokeshire and hope that someone might be able to shed some light on the families I am looking for : James Phillips a blacksmith probably in Pembroke Dock, married to Elizabeth (Lewis?). living at 33,Lower Pennar. Saint Mary in 1883. Also on the 1841 census a John John and Martha John aged 45 living at New House ,Newport parish. Martha was born in Pembroke and John was born in Verwig, Cardigan. I do not know the area so any information about Saint Mary and Verwig would be very welcome. Cheers Joan.

Hello Gareth, I do have a couple of photos here of my Griffiths relatives taken outside their house. They ran the Bentlass Ferry from about 1890ish, I "think" the photo was taken in the late 1890's. Let me know if you are interested in a copy, one of them does have a good shot of the whole front of the house. All the best Sue Martin

Hi Gareth Bentlass Ferry is mentioned on Pages 64 and 76 of Phil Carradice's The Book of Pembroke Dock. Pembroke Dock Library should have a copy as they were given a presentation copy. The ferry from Bentlass to Pennar was used by workers in the dockyard who lived in outlying villages In February 1889 the ferry capsized and 14 women and a boatman wre drowned. They were going to the Dockyard gates to collect their mens Friday pay packet so that they could shop in Pembroke Dock Market before returning to their homes in Monkton, Castlemartin and other villages in that area. Mrs Peters in The History of Pembroke Dock PP151/2 gives a slightly diffferent account. According to her two men and seven market-women were drowned. No doubt the local newspapers will have an account. Bye for now Joy

Can any lister help me trace my wife's Gt Grandmother's ancestry. John Davies was born in 1831. His father Charles in the 1841 census was shown as living in Third Street (now Robert St) Milford Haven - occupation butcher. I have Jane as being born c.1833. I assume that John married Jane circa early 1850s. Their children and birth years are: James 1855 Charles 1862 William Lewis 1867 Caroline 1869 Alice 1869 George 1871 Albert 1874 Can anyone shed any light on John's wife JANE and her ancestry. If there is any lister who can help I will be very grateful. Henry Johnston Pembrokeshire

Hi Gareth , Thanks.I reckon its all to keep us on our toes! Will have another careful look at Genuki section. Kind Regards . Sue in LLantrisant ********************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gareth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] enumeration districts Help neededplease > Hi Sue > I'm no authority but from its position in Pem county I'd be surprised if > Reberth was in CMN at any time. > > The only related change of boundary I can find is this parish one from the > Lewis extract on the Genuki parish page. > > "REDBARTH (RYDBERTH), a parish in the hundred of NARBERTH, county of > PEMBROKE, SOUTH WALES, 4 miles (N.W.) from Tenby, containing 134 > inhabitants. This place was formerly a hamlet in the parish of Carew, from > which it has been severed and erected into a distinct parish of itself: it > is situated in the south- eastern part of the county, and is of very small > extent....." > > Confusion sometimes arises in the context of registration districts, which > has a bearing on censuses too, but according to Genuki there has been no > change in Pembroke RD since 1837 > http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/ > > > Gareth > List administrator for DYFED, CGN & PEM > Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ > Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html > Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > . > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Harvey" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 6:40 PM > Subject: [WLS-PEM] enumeration districts Help neededplease > > > > Hi, > > I am confused. I asked recently about the connection between Redberth , > LLangan, St CLears and Laugharne as these had all been given as the birth > place of Rachel LEWIS b1838 I asked if the Carm./Pembs.border had ever > changed and was told no. > > > > But Lewis Morgan b 1834 Redberth, her spouse to be, was believed born in > Pembrokshire in Redberth. I re -adjusted my thoughts and settled him in > Carmarthen only to find now that the Enumeration areas for Redberth Hamletin > 1841 are listed as Pembrokeshire!!! > > > > Lewis MORGANhas been found ,kindly by Pat Powell in Redberth Hamlet in > census 1841 and this data ties up. > > > > I know it is border land but is Redberth Pembs. one and the same as > Redberth Carmarthen ?or is there another explanation ? > > > > Help "I'm trying to be a genealogist Get me out of this." > > > > Today checking enumeration districts I find Redberth in Pembrokshire.Just > to confuse me more. > > > > Can SKS sort me out please. > > > > Cheers , > > Sue in LLantrisant ,glam.***************************** > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Rootsweb list archives[threaded] > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/WLSPembrokeshire-L/ > > > > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Pembrokeshire Archives > email [email protected] >

Hi All, Being new to all this I am asking for your help. Does anyone have interesting information or photographs of Bentlass ? I am currently renovating one of the original cottages. Many thanks, Gareth.

Hi Sue I'm no authority but from its position in Pem county I'd be surprised if Reberth was in CMN at any time. The only related change of boundary I can find is this parish one from the Lewis extract on the Genuki parish page. "REDBARTH (RYDBERTH), a parish in the hundred of NARBERTH, county of PEMBROKE, SOUTH WALES, 4 miles (N.W.) from Tenby, containing 134 inhabitants. This place was formerly a hamlet in the parish of Carew, from which it has been severed and erected into a distinct parish of itself: it is situated in the south- eastern part of the county, and is of very small extent....." Confusion sometimes arises in the context of registration districts, which has a bearing on censuses too, but according to Genuki there has been no change in Pembroke RD since 1837 http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/ Gareth List administrator for DYFED, CGN & PEM Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harvey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 6:40 PM Subject: [WLS-PEM] enumeration districts Help neededplease > Hi, > I am confused. I asked recently about the connection between Redberth , LLangan, St CLears and Laugharne as these had all been given as the birth place of Rachel LEWIS b1838 I asked if the Carm./Pembs.border had ever changed and was told no. > > But Lewis Morgan b 1834 Redberth, her spouse to be, was believed born in Pembrokshire in Redberth. I re -adjusted my thoughts and settled him in Carmarthen only to find now that the Enumeration areas for Redberth Hamletin 1841 are listed as Pembrokeshire!!! > > Lewis MORGANhas been found ,kindly by Pat Powell in Redberth Hamlet in census 1841 and this data ties up. > > I know it is border land but is Redberth Pembs. one and the same as Redberth Carmarthen ?or is there another explanation ? > > Help "I'm trying to be a genealogist Get me out of this." > > Today checking enumeration districts I find Redberth in Pembrokshire.Just to confuse me more. > > Can SKS sort me out please. > > Cheers , > Sue in LLantrisant ,glam.***************************** > > > > ==== WLS-PEMBROKESHIRE Mailing List ==== > Rootsweb list archives[threaded] http://archiver.rootsweb.com/WLSPembrokeshire-L/ > >

Hi, I am confused. I asked recently about the connection between Redberth , LLangan, St CLears and Laugharne as these had all been given as the birth place of Rachel LEWIS b1838 I asked if the Carm./Pembs.border had ever changed and was told no. But Lewis Morgan b 1834 Redberth, her spouse to be, was believed born in Pembrokshire in Redberth. I re -adjusted my thoughts and settled him in Carmarthen only to find now that the Enumeration areas for Redberth Hamletin 1841 are listed as Pembrokeshire!!! Lewis MORGANhas been found ,kindly by Pat Powell in Redberth Hamlet in census 1841 and this data ties up. I know it is border land but is Redberth Pembs. one and the same as Redberth Carmarthen ?or is there another explanation ? Help "I'm trying to be a genealogist Get me out of this." Today checking enumeration districts I find Redberth in Pembrokshire.Just to confuse me more. Can SKS sort me out please. Cheers , Sue in LLantrisant ,glam.*****************************

Am trying to locate the christening details for John Barnet Obray (Aubrey) and younger brother William. I know that John was born in 1792 or 1793 and William was born in 1795. Does anyone have access to these records? Craig Albiston Houston, Texas

Dear Listers, This week's 'Retrospective Images of Wales', just uploaded onto my website, features: 1. The thousand-year-old Celtic Cross in the village of Carew, county of Pembrokeshire. This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in May 1998 (four photos). 2. Scenes shot in the village of Carew, Pembrokeshire. This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in May 1998 (eight photos). To view my Retrospective webpages, go to http://home.clara.net/wfha/walespic/retro/retro.htm Enjoy!! Best wishes, John ---------------------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, South Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/ Welsh Family History Archive (WFHA): http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.592 / Virus Database: 375 - Release Date: 18/02/2004

they are either side of Cardigan - St Dogmaels is in Pembrokeshire (just) and Verwig (as its now known) is to the north at a guess I would say there is about 5 miles between them Melanie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:22 PM Subject: [WLS-PEM] Verwick to to St.Dogmaels? > Hi, can someone please tell me how far it is from Verwick to St.Dogmaels? I > have an ancestor who says he was born in Verwick on one census and St.Dogmaels > on another. > > Also, as this birth was about 1806/7, is there anyone who has access to the > B/T's for either area for that time? > > The birth/baptism I am looking for is Josiah WILLIAMS, married in St.Mary's, > Pembroke to Hannah Davies in 1831, age given on the 1841 census was 35. > > Any help will be much appreciated > > > #thanks > > Ann > > ______________________________