Dear Lesley, Thanks for writing to me. I have copied our correspondence to the Cardiganshire List so that other list members can learn how the search for your ancestors' farm has progressed. Note that in your original e-mail you used the spelling "Twygwyn", which made no sense in Welsh. You are now using the spelling "Twrgwyn" which *does* make sense (Twrgwyn = white tower). Your reference to Rhydlewis has enabled me to locate the farm you were looking for. It's marked as Twrgwyn on my modern Ordnance Survey Explorer map (sheet 198) at grid reference SN350479 which places it about 600 metres north northeast of the village of Rhydlewis. You can study this area on the smaller scale Ordnance Survey 'Landranger' map (sheet 145) although Twrgwyn Farm is not identified on it my name. You can see the relevant section of the Landranger map at the Streetmaps website www.streetmap.co.uk/ In the search section near the top of the Streetmaps homepage, select the 'Landranger' option and enter SN350479 into the search field. Click the Search button and when the initial streetmap format map appears, change to the more useful Landranger map format by clicking once on the [-] 'zoom out' button at bottom right of the map. Twrgwyn is not identified by name but is the small block immediately left of the tip of the small orange arrow near the centre of the map. A far more detailed map of the area can be obtained by visiting the Ordnance Survey Old Maps website at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ The 1:10,560-scale map, published in 1891, shows Twrgwyn and the surrounding area. On the website's main page select the "Co-ordinates" option in the search facility (near top left of the page). In the search field enter the co-ordinates 235000,247900 (without any spaces) and click the Search button. When the small map appears, click on the "Enlarged view" button below the map. A highly detailed large map of the area will open in a new window, centred roughly on "Twr-gwyn" farm. You can save this map to your hard disc by clicking on it with your right mouse button and selecting the "Save Picture As..." option in the menu which appears. Kind regards, John ---------------------------- John Ball, Ystalyfera, South Wales, UK E-mail: wfha@clara.co.uk Homepage: http://home.clara.net/wfha/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonza Sheila" <bonzasheila@hotmail.com> To: <wfha@clara.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 1:56 PM Subject: re Davies and Evans Hello John, Thank you so much for all the useful information you sent in your e-mail. I realise it will not be easy tracking the surnames Davies and Evans :-( In the documents I received from a relative, there was a letter enclosed dated, September 1953 written about the ancestors (from a descendant). The author of the letter wrote "... Tyrgwyn Farm, Rhyddlewis, Cardiganshire..." I have already established Rhydlewis was spelt incorrectly, so was not surprised when I read about the word "Tyrgwyn". I will begin expanding my research by checking through the 1881 UK census, then I will check the 1891 census. Once I have narrowed down the 'family' I will then search for more detailed records, based on your suggestions. I believe the children of David and Elizabeth Davies were born in the mid 1840's onward, as my g.grandfather, John Davies (based on his age at death) was born about 1846 and he was the first born child. Thank you once again for your assistance. Kindest regards Lesley _________________________________________________________________ Chat via SMS. Simply send 'CHAT' to 1889918. More info at http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/MoChat.asp?blipid=6800 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.521 / Virus Database: 319 - Release Date: 23/09/2003