Annie, Thanks for the comments. I did make one mistake in that I had the son of Benjamin and Polly being born in Tenn when in fact he was born near Richmond, Virginia where both Benjamin his wife and Buckner were living. The son Willaim moved to Patrick County, Virginia where he married twice and had four children. I have access to ancestry.com which I searched along with Google searches for all of the known names. I also checked the names in FreeBMD, all Family Search databases and ISG Passenger Lists. As I stated in my original message the Welsh connection is a family legend that one of my aunts documented in one of several books she wrote. She also noted that Buckner bought a horse and trappings and rode toward Kentucky. He was never heard from. I have asked my cousin to look for her mothers original notes to see if she can determine the source. >There are three major points that you need in order to find your Welsh > immigrant. They are: > > 1. Name of the immigrant > 2. A date (birth, residence, marriage, death, etc.) > 3. A place which means parish or town and county. > > Unless you can answer all three questions, don't ever try to do research in > Wales or for that matter, anywhere else. I have to disagree with your logic in the above statement. There is a possibility that someone may see the query and recoginize some of the information especially with uncommon names. They may be able to provide bits of information that would allow research to continue. If I knew the dates and places I would order films from the FHC. I realize that you have to know approximate dates and places in the UK to continue systematic research. Thanks again. Bruce P. Barrett brucepbarrett@adelphia.net Heath, OH USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cardi2@aol.com> To: <WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 2:47 PM Subject: [WLS-CGN] Welsh Immigration into the USA > In a message dated 10/13/03 10:58:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > Hi Bruce: I am answering you online because there are probably lots of other > researchers out there with similar problems in finding the immigrant. First > of all before you ever try to go back to the homeland, you MUST have your > immigrant. You must know when he came to the USA and the area where he first > settled. You state you have your ancestor in Tennessee in 1815. What area of > Tennessee? Have you searched that area of Tennessee? Have you looked at the > following records: censuses, tax records, marriage records, land and property, > wills and probates, a county or state history, and military records. Was > your ancestor in the War of 1812 (Second War for American Independence)? If you > don't know, check the NARA (National Archivves). If you haven't looked at any > of the above records, find your nearest Family History Center and go in and > ask for help. There is also a Welsh Society in Knoxville. You can find the > website by doing a Google/Yahoo search. > > I do not think that your ancestor in Tennessee in 1815 is the immigrant. > He';s probably a descendant of an immigrant. The mother state of Tennessee was > North Carolina. There was a Welsh settlement in North Carolina in Dublin > County, not far from Wilmington. However, it doesn't mean that he came from there. > > > There are three major points that you need in order to find your Welsh > immigrant. They are: > > 1. Name of the immigrant > 2. A date (birth, residence, marriage, death, etc.) > 3. A place which means parish or town and county. > > Unless you can answer all three questions, don't ever try to do research in > Wales or for that matter, anywhere else. > > You are not ready to do Welsh research yet. I don't believe you know what to > do so you think that "I can just jump from the USA to Wales and all my > problems will be over and I will find the immigrant." Genealogy doesn't work that > way. You have to "go from what you do know what you don't know." You cannot > skip a generation. You cannot have a gap of 50 years in a family. > > Keep looking and don't give up. Good luck, > > Annie > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 23:11:53 -0400 > > From: "Bruce P Barrett" <brucepbarrett@adelphia.net> > > > > > > Hi, > > I am looking for surname ISRAEL. Family legend is that two brothers came to > > America from Wales. Don't know where but seems that Benjamin and Buckner > > along with Benjamins wife Polly migrated in the late 1700s or early 1800s. > > They had a son born in Tennessee about 1815. Two known brothers Amos and > > Mose(s) stayed in Wales. Would appreciate any information. > > Thanks > > > > Bruce P. Barrett > > brucepbarrett@adelphia.net > > Heath, OH USA > > > > ______________________________ > > > > > > > > > ==== WLS-CARDIGANSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Genuki CGN > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CGN/ >