An amusing quote from Gwyn Alf Williams' 'Where was Wales'. I got it from 'The Welsh Almanac' by Terry Breverton , 2002 --- which contains masses of similarly interesting quotes/dates/excerpts "There are 54 Joneses in 'The Dictionary of Welsh Biography', but this is a five finger exercise for anyone who has to locate a Jones in an average Welsh telephone directory (hence the familiar Jones the Fish, Jones the Bread, and, in recent times, Jones the Spy). The recent rise of Welsh nationalism has led some people to reverse the process; even the 'ap' is returning. But the most engaging last stand was made in the eighteenth century by a genial bankrupt who signed himself 'Sion ap William ap Sion ap William ap Sion ap Dafydd ap Ithel Fychan ap Cynrig ap Robert ap Iorwerth ap Rhyrid ap Iorwerth ap Madoc ap Ednawain Bendew, called after the English fashion John Jones' ." Gareth List administrator for DYFED, CGN & PEM Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Lookup Exchange http://home.clara.net/tirbach/lookup.html Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html .