Hello, Andrew, Just picked up my mail and see that you're enquiring about the vast Herbert clan of Cardiganshire! I thought I'd jump in, if you don't mind me adding my penny's worth! I've done a bit of work on my Herbert-s, who seem to have come from a tiny village called Llangwyryfon near Aberystwyth. I have them there in late 16th century. From there a branch went to the adjoining village of Lledrod, where there are Herbert-s to this day and to whom I'm related. There are a lot buried in the churchyard there. My branch of Herbert-s then went a little south to Llangeitho, where we still have a farm which is owned by my cousin, a Herbert, to this day. There are female descendents of this family living all around the area. Yes, my own maternal grandmother was CONVINCED there was a connection to the Earls of Pembroke and the aristocracy. The old house of Hafod is central to any enquiry on the Herbert-s in this respect. You've no doubt joined the Cards Family History soc: Dr Evan James has done a lot of work on the Herbert-s of Cards. There is a Thomas Herbert in my Llangwyryfon Herbert family. Feel free to contact me off list if you want any of my notes. regards, Laura DAVIES. (Bridgend). --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now