>Elsie Have you any dates (which may be helpful to those trying to respond to your query.< Hello David and list, Here's what I have on the family I'm looking for: EVANS, Isaac b) c1773 Cefnrhuddlan,Isaf d) 18 MAY 1848 Cefnrhuddlan, Isaf LLOYD, Jane b) 03 JULY 1772 Cefnrhuddlan,Isaf d) 08 SEP 1826 Cefnrhuddlan, Isaf The IGI lists Jane LLOYD's parents as: John LLOYD and Anne BRYNLLEVRITH Children of Isaac and Jane EVANS: Thomas EVANS b) c1802 Llangothen Jane EVANS b) c1804 Llangothen Rachel EVANS b) c1806 Llangothen Thomas EVANS b) c1808 Llangothen (I think this may be my GG GF) Mary EVANS b) c1810 Llangothen Margaret EVANS b) c1812 Llangothen David Lloyd Isaac EVANS b) c1814 Llangothen Information on the IGI for Anne Brynllevrith: b) 03 JULY 1750 Llanvechan, CGN d) 01 JAN 1825 Information on the IGI for John Lloyd: b) 1750 Llanvechan, CGN d) 1823 Sorry this is so long, but I'm stuck on the surname thing here. My GGGF Thomas ISAAC was born in 1808 in Llanwenog, CGN according to all the censuses from 1841 thru 1871. His father is listed on his marriage cert in 1844 as Isaac EVANS. He named my GGF Herbert Lloyd ISAAC (probably Lloyd after his mother). This is the only family that seems to fit although the IGI lists the children as EVANS not ISAAC. I hope this additional information will catch someone's eye. I'd love to hear from anyone that can help and thank you in advance. Elsie L Isaac Bethlehem, PA USA Proud to be working on the FreeCen Project!!!! Let's get the UK Census online to view for Free! _________________________________________________________________ Get dial-up Internet access now with our best offer: 6 months @$9.95/month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup